Solve : Seemingly Sporadic Router?

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Answer» Not necessarily TROUBLESHOOTING here, just trying to understand something. I have a DSL connection, piped into a combi modem/wireless router - call it "Net 1". Coming out of that router is a CAT5 cable, plugged into powerline adapter. Another powerline adapter is plugged into a secondary wireless router - call it "Net 2". Sporadically I will lose the ability to get an IP from Net 2. From a Windows laptop, it will connect to the network but give me the little yellow exclamation point in the system tray and a "No Internet Connection" message; from my Android phone, it hunts for an IP then falls back to Net 1; my wife's iPads just don't sign on. Now, I know these powerline things can be FINICKY, but before I move the bookshelf out of the way to make sure all my link lights are groovy, I did a few QUICK tests. Here's where I want to check my thinking: First, from any device, I look to make sure SSID 'Net 2' is visible Then, while SIGNED on to 'Net 1', I steer toward 192.168.1.100 So... The first test, tells me I can see the router from outside the network. the second test tells me the network can see the router from inside the network (ie, the first goes from my laptop to the router's antenna; the second goes from the other router through the wires and into the port on the back o fthe router). If I pass both those tests, the network is fine; it's the device that needs to clear its cache (or something), right? (Others insist on rebooting the entire network. I say that's not the solution...) Is there a reason to why the Net 2 router cant be acting as a repeater of Net 1 router and do away with the network bridge that you are essentially using over the power line adapters? In every ENVIRONMENT I have tried to use them they are a royal problem and not stabile. One good test would be the following from Net 2: Connect to Net 2 and perform a persistent ping such as... ping www.google.com -t And watch the info from the command shell. Look for lost packets, failed responses as well as excessive latency which would point out an issue with either the computer connected via wifi to the router of Net 2 or a power line network bridge adapter issue, which is where I believe your issue is located in this non ideal setup. Quote from: DaveLembke on October 25, 2013, 06:16:19 PM Is there a reason to why the Net 2 router cant be acting as a repeater of Net 1 router and do away with the network bridge that you are essentially using over the power line adapters? Yes, there is. There is one really, really good reason. I have no f[swearie]ing idea how to do that. http://lifehacker.com/how-to-extend-your-wi-fi-network-with-an-old-router-915783308

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Not necessarily TROUBLESHOOTING here, just trying to understand something.

I have a DSL connection, piped into a combi modem/wireless router - call it "Net 1".

Coming out of that router is a CAT5 cable, plugged into powerline adapter.

Another powerline adapter is plugged into a secondary wireless router - call it "Net 2".

Sporadically I will lose the ability to get an IP from Net 2. From a Windows laptop, it will connect to the network but give me the little yellow exclamation point in the system tray and a "No Internet Connection" message; from my Android phone, it hunts for an IP then falls back to Net 1; my wife's iPads just don't sign on.

Now, I know these powerline things can be FINICKY, but before I move the bookshelf out of the way to make sure all my link lights are groovy, I did a few QUICK tests.

Here's where I want to check my thinking:

First, from any device, I look to make sure SSID 'Net 2' is visible
Then, while SIGNED on to 'Net 1', I steer toward 192.168.1.100

So... The first test, tells me I can see the router from outside the network. the second test tells me the network can see the router from inside the network (ie, the first goes from my laptop to the router's antenna; the second goes from the other router through the wires and into the port on the back o fthe router).

If I pass both those tests, the network is fine; it's the device that needs to clear its cache (or something), right?

(Others insist on rebooting the entire network. I say that's not the solution...)

Is there a reason to why the Net 2 router cant be acting as a repeater of Net 1 router and do away with the network bridge that you are essentially using over the power line adapters?

In every ENVIRONMENT I have tried to use them they are a royal problem and not stabile.

One good test would be the following from Net 2:

Connect to Net 2 and perform a persistent ping such as...

ping www.google.com -t

And watch the info from the command shell. Look for lost packets, failed responses as well as excessive latency which would point out an issue with either the computer connected via wifi to the router of Net 2 or a power line network bridge adapter issue, which is where I believe your issue is located in this non ideal setup. Quote from: DaveLembke on October 25, 2013, 06:16:19 PM

Is there a reason to why the Net 2 router cant be acting as a repeater of Net 1 router and do away with the network bridge that you are essentially using over the power line adapters?

Yes, there is. There is one really, really good reason.

I have no f[swearie]ing idea how to do that.
http://lifehacker.com/how-to-extend-your-wi-fi-network-with-an-old-router-915783308

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