Solve : Should I use powerline networking??

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Answer» I have a lab downstairs and I want to connect it to the Internet without a 100ft Cat5e cable. I want to use the Belkin Gigabit powerline kit because I will use gigabit. Should I use this or I should always use a 100ft cable from the router to the Ethernet hub.I this the product your mean? http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=495008 Reviews on this and products like it are MIXED. They, the manufacturers, can not say for sue that you will have good results in all cases. In depends on the building construction. I think this is a case that if you can put in cable, do it.Any walls or floors in between the computer and the WIRELESS router will affect signal strength, as well as services running through those walls and floors. As the angle from the router changes the effective wall/floor thickness will also change. A six inch thick wall at a 45 degree angle is the equivelent of nine inches. Wireless will not make full use of Gigabit anyway. You really need a cable to get the full benefit. If you really want to go wireless then try it, if you aren't happy try with the cable.hey, wouldn't a 6-inch wall at a 45 degree angle be 8.48 inches? Quote from: BC_Programmer on August 15, 2009, 10:49:34 PM hey, wouldn't a 6-inch wall at a 45 degree angle be 8.48 inches? No, it's 9". You multiply by 1.5.that doesn't make any sense- it creates a right angle triangle, 6 inches deep. since it's a right angle triangle then the other side is also 6 inches thus we use the pyhtagorean theorem sqr(6^2+6^2)= Sqr(72)=(8.48")That would actually be the wrong math for that. Calculate it the way you would for a radiation shield. You multiply it by it's factor at 45 degrees, or one half of vertical. Actually the calculation for armor works the same way.that doesn't make any sense. it's still a triangle.I know, but it is different. Don't ask me how, I'm a wee bit high, but it is definately a 1.5 multiplier. To test this take a piece of wood or steel, measure it at the vertical, then put it on a 45 degree incline, measure it again.Quote from: Geek-9pm on August 14, 2009, 08:59:45 AM I this the product your mean? http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=495008 Reviews on this and products like it are mixed. They, the manufacturers, can not say for sue that you will have good results in all cases. In depends on the building construction. I think this is a case that if you can put in cable, do it. I can also use PHONE Line Networking but I will only get 10MBPS and I need gigabit speeds because I will have a backup server.I still think cable. Note; he was talking about gigabit over power line, , not wireless 802 dot 11 stuff. Fiber Optic cable is very small and you can install it even in hard places. This link leads to a series of Optical tutorials on You Tube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC3WBpAePaQ Once in place, the fiber cable gives the highest performance. For a serious commercial research lab, the cost can be justified over time. Quote from: Geek-9pm on August 18, 2009, 04:35:44 PM I still think cable. Note; he was talking about gigabit over power line, , not wireless 802 dot 11 stuff. Fiber Optic cable is very small and you can install it even in hard places. This link leads to a series of Optical tutorials on You Tube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC3WBpAePaQ Once in place, the fiber cable gives the highest performance. For a serious commercial research lab, the cost can be justified over time. I tried installing a 100ft cable behind the walls but I could not do it. If I use fiber optics I may be ready for 100 gigabit ethernet instead of 100 megabit ethernet. I can also run it from the sun room but all the ports of the network hub there are full because there is a laser printer, a laptop, and two desktop computers.Quote from: Quantos on August 15, 2009, 11:01:52 PM I know, but it is different. Don't ask me how, I'm a wee bit high, but it is definately a 1.5 multiplier. To test this take a piece of wood or steel, measure it at the vertical, then put it on a 45 degree incline, measure it again. This is a LONG delay, I know, but what I'm referring to here is the cross section. Not the length.Quote can also run it from the sun room but all the ports of the network hub there are full because there is a laser printer, a laptop, and two desktop computers. Commercial hubs can piggy back with a small loss in performance. The issue is frequent collisions when several users are active at the same time. A switch would be preferred to a hub in most cases. Very good 6 POT gigabit switches are available. Here is a helpful link with prices from major vendors: http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=wGX&q=16+port+gigabit+switch&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=15313599303412552314&ei=8T2oSvyvL4P-sQPQ2MnKBQ&sa=X&oi=product_catalog_result&ct=result&resnum=1#ps-sellersQuote from: Geek-9pm on September 09, 2009, 05:49:12 PM Commercial hubs can piggy back with a small loss in performance. The issue is frequent collisions when several users are active at the same time. A switch would be preferred to a hub in most cases. Very good 6 pot gigabit switches are available. Here is a helpful link with prices from major vendors: http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=wGX&q=16+port+gigabit+switch&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=15313599303412552314&ei=8T2oSvyvL4P-sQPQ2MnKBQ&sa=X&oi=product_catalog_result&ct=result&resnum=1#ps-sellers I can also run it behind the HDTV where the router is there. I have a 10/100 ethernet stwitch and will upgrade to a gigabit one.

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I have a lab downstairs and I want to connect it to the Internet without a 100ft Cat5e cable. I want to use the Belkin Gigabit powerline kit because I will use gigabit. Should I use this or I should always use a 100ft cable from the router to the Ethernet hub.I this the product your mean?
http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=495008

Reviews on this and products like it are MIXED.

They, the manufacturers, can not say for sue that you will have good results in all cases. In depends on the building construction.

I think this is a case that if you can put in cable, do it.Any walls or floors in between the computer and the WIRELESS router will affect signal strength, as well as services running through those walls and floors.

As the angle from the router changes the effective wall/floor thickness will also change. A six inch thick wall at a 45 degree angle is the equivelent of nine inches.

Wireless will not make full use of Gigabit anyway. You really need a cable to get the full benefit. If you really want to go wireless then try it, if you aren't happy try with the cable.hey, wouldn't a 6-inch wall at a 45 degree angle be 8.48 inches? Quote from: BC_Programmer on August 15, 2009, 10:49:34 PM

hey, wouldn't a 6-inch wall at a 45 degree angle be 8.48 inches?

No, it's 9". You multiply by 1.5.that doesn't make any sense- it creates a right angle triangle, 6 inches deep. since it's a right angle triangle then the other side is also 6 inches thus we use the pyhtagorean theorem sqr(6^2+6^2)= Sqr(72)=(8.48")That would actually be the wrong math for that. Calculate it the way you would for a radiation shield. You multiply it by it's factor at 45 degrees, or one half of vertical. Actually the calculation for armor works the same way.that doesn't make any sense. it's still a triangle.I know, but it is different. Don't ask me how, I'm a wee bit high, but it is definately a 1.5 multiplier.

To test this take a piece of wood or steel, measure it at the vertical, then put it on a 45 degree incline, measure it again.Quote from: Geek-9pm on August 14, 2009, 08:59:45 AM

I this the product your mean?
http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=495008

Reviews on this and products like it are mixed.

They, the manufacturers, can not say for sue that you will have good results in all cases. In depends on the building construction.

I think this is a case that if you can put in cable, do it.

I can also use PHONE Line Networking but I will only get 10MBPS and I need gigabit speeds because I will have a backup server.I still think cable.
Note; he was talking about gigabit over power line, , not wireless 802 dot 11 stuff.
Fiber Optic cable is very small and you can install it even in hard places.
This link leads to a series of Optical tutorials on You Tube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC3WBpAePaQ
Once in place, the fiber cable gives the highest performance. For a serious commercial research lab, the cost can be justified over time.
Quote from: Geek-9pm on August 18, 2009, 04:35:44 PM

I still think cable.
Note; he was talking about gigabit over power line, , not wireless 802 dot 11 stuff.
Fiber Optic cable is very small and you can install it even in hard places.
This link leads to a series of Optical tutorials on You Tube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC3WBpAePaQ
Once in place, the fiber cable gives the highest performance. For a serious commercial research lab, the cost can be justified over time.

I tried installing a 100ft cable behind the walls but I could not do it. If I use fiber optics I may be ready for 100 gigabit ethernet instead of 100 megabit ethernet. I can also run it from the sun room but all the ports of the network hub there are full because there is a laser printer, a laptop, and two desktop computers.Quote from: Quantos on August 15, 2009, 11:01:52 PM

I know, but it is different. Don't ask me how, I'm a wee bit high, but it is definately a 1.5 multiplier.

To test this take a piece of wood or steel, measure it at the vertical, then put it on a 45 degree incline, measure it again.

This is a LONG delay, I know, but what I'm referring to here is the cross section. Not the length.Quote

can also run it from the sun room but all the ports of the network hub there are full because there is a laser printer, a laptop, and two desktop computers.

Commercial hubs can piggy back with a small loss in performance. The issue is frequent collisions when several users are active at the same time. A switch would be preferred to a hub in most cases.

Very good 6 POT gigabit switches are available.

Here is a helpful link with prices from major vendors:
http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=wGX&q=16+port+gigabit+switch&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=15313599303412552314&ei=8T2oSvyvL4P-sQPQ2MnKBQ&sa=X&oi=product_catalog_result&ct=result&resnum=1#ps-sellersQuote from: Geek-9pm on September 09, 2009, 05:49:12 PM

Commercial hubs can piggy back with a small loss in performance. The issue is frequent collisions when several users are active at the same time. A switch would be preferred to a hub in most cases.

Very good 6 pot gigabit switches are available.

Here is a helpful link with prices from major vendors:
http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=wGX&q=16+port+gigabit+switch&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=15313599303412552314&ei=8T2oSvyvL4P-sQPQ2MnKBQ&sa=X&oi=product_catalog_result&ct=result&resnum=1#ps-sellers

I can also run it behind the HDTV where the router is there. I have a 10/100 ethernet stwitch and will upgrade to a gigabit one.

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