Solve : trying to use a "homegroup on win 7 can't get it going...?

1.	Solve : trying to use a "homegroup on win 7 can't get it going...?
Answer» the problem is I have 2 computers I want to put on a "homegroup" tried to use the homegroup troubleshooter and got the error "pnrpsvc" not running and "p2piimsvc" not running. I have tried everything to get the "homegroup" to "see" my other computer and have failed, I have a win 7 64 bit desktop which is hooked up to the internet with a wired connection to a router the other computer is a laptop win 7 64 bit also but it is connected with a wilerless connection, can I put both of these computers on the same Homegroup"? and how to do it. any help would be appriciated ps I have open dns if that matters. on bothStart with wired connection for both computers. If needed, move then laptop close to the router and use another CAT-5 cable to laptop. Reset both computers. Do the network wizard on both machines. Turn on print and file sharing. At least one folder has to be network shared on each machine. Public is often used. Reset both machines. Wait awhile for the machines to find each other. Does that help? when you say "reset" both machines what do you mean? and can the cat 5 be connected to the same router the other computer is hooked up too? Quote from: rece on February 20, 2012, 01:23:22 PM when you say "reset" both machines what do you mean? and can the cat 5 be connected to the same router the other computer is hooked up too? Yes, reboot or restart the machines after making changes to the network setting. And yes, test it with both on the same router using the Ethernet cable. If all goes well, advance to wireless connection. MUCH easier to don it in two steps. Wireless has it own hurdles. going to try this today so I will let you u know if it works and thanks for the help, It is appreciated very much, didn't know where to go with this problem. so, let me try this and I will let u know. getting a message that says "workgroup provider service isn't running" so what do I try next? and I was going to try and change the password on the workgroup but it says no workgroup cand be STARTED" Wow! Never seen that before. I am giving a LINK to another forum. See if the check list for that issue works for you. Then please come back here and let us know. http://forums.cnet.com/7723-19411_102-384793/can-t-connect-2-windows-7-computers-via-homegroup/ I just think I need to forget about it I have messed with thing long enough, and if it is this hard to get two computers together through windows well, I give up! I read the link you GAVE me and I think I will never get this solved without really screwing up so bad that I won't even be able to access my own files, so at this point forget it and thanks for the help you did give me maybe micro-soft will come up with something that will make this thing easier! but I doubt it!Even though you may have decided to negate setting up your home network...hopefully, you may find this link helpful. It basically describes all the steps you need to take in order to setup you home network: Start here to set up a home network in Windows 7I will tell you what I did get before deciding not to go any further, I did get to "see" the other computer in the network, now when I clicked on it it asked me for a username( I was very confused what that was) and a password confused about that too! anyway I tried the one the computer gave me and it was wrong (??) and I could not go any further, that was when I had decided to quit, now my questions that need answered are as follows: what is the username?? and what password do I use the user account password or what, and also I had shut down some services trying to speed up my computer, and I think this has something to do with why I am having problems getting this going, like the homegroup provider service (?) I used the homegroup troubleshooter and when it said it didn't know what was wrong I clicked on the advanced link and got that message, and also I am confused about the folders I can share, the public folder (scares me to death. makes me think I am opening everything to the internet) and the media sharing that confuses me too, I understand Home network, that means the computers I have at home, but the public thing I am worried about, I don't want my computer to be a open book on the internet, and I think that doing that is opening a door to my computer, so that is where I am at now and part of the reason I am having so many problems with this. so any help with terminology or anything would be appreciated . rece, I understand your concerns. Setting up home networking really isn't that difficult. Unfortunately my Windows 7 skills are not as good as they should be. However, I will assist you as best as possible until someone else intercedes, okay? I need to ask you a couple of questions, too. First of all...what program did you use to speed up your computer? Did you use this program on both computers? What kind of users do you have on each computer...limited accounts? Administrative accounts? I remember you said something about connecting wirelessly. You may want to read this: Setting up a wireless network As far as making folders public or private... Making a folder or file public means that those on the network have access to that file or folder. They can view it or make changes to it...depending on the access you give them. Making a file private on a home network is just the opposite...it is not viewable and no one can see it or access it. One thing to KEEP in mind...a "wired" home network is more secure than a "wireless" home network.Upon further investigation...I came across an article which explains password protected sharing in Windows 7. This feature requires one to do the following: Open the Control Panel Open the Network & Sharing Center Select Change Advanced Sharing Settings Expand Home & Work Network Scroll to Password Protection Turn off Password Protect Sharing This is, more than likely, the reason you are getting a prompt to enter a user name and password for your home network. If the folders and files on a networked computer can be viewed on the network, but not seen...then that computer may have enabled password protected sharing. Another good read: File Sharing EssentialsI didn't use a program to speed up my computer, I said I disabled some services, to speed up my computer, and again what is the "username"? is it the name of the computer or what is it? I don't understand what to use for the username? and yes I password protected the sharing because I was unaware who would be seeing them (public vs home) thanks for the links they help me to understand networking I admit I don't fully understand itThe user name and password would more than likely be the user name and the password of the person on the network whose files you are trying to access.you mean the login for user account or what?

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the problem is I have 2 computers I want to put on a "homegroup" tried to use the homegroup troubleshooter and got the error "pnrpsvc" not running and "p2piimsvc" not running. I have tried everything to get the "homegroup" to "see" my other computer and have failed, I have a win 7 64 bit desktop which is hooked up to the internet with a wired connection to a router the other computer is a laptop win 7 64 bit also but it is connected with a wilerless connection, can I put both of these computers on the same Homegroup"? and how to do it. any help would be appriciated ps I have open dns if that matters. on bothStart with wired connection for both computers. If needed, move then laptop close to the router and use another CAT-5 cable to laptop.
Reset both computers.
Do the network wizard on both machines.
Turn on print and file sharing.
At least one folder has to be network shared on each machine. Public is often used.
Reset both machines.
Wait awhile for the machines to find each other.

Does that help?

when you say "reset" both machines what do you mean? and can the cat 5 be connected to the same router the other computer is hooked up too? Quote from: rece on February 20, 2012, 01:23:22 PM

when you say "reset" both machines what do you mean? and can the cat 5 be connected to the same router the other computer is hooked up too?

Yes, reboot or restart the machines after making changes to the network setting. And yes, test it with both on the same router using the Ethernet cable.
If all goes well, advance to wireless connection. MUCH easier to don it in two steps. Wireless has it own hurdles.
going to try this today so I will let you u know if it works and thanks for the help, It is appreciated very much, didn't know where to go with this problem.
so, let me try this and I will let u know.
getting a message that says "workgroup provider service isn't running" so what do I try next? and I was going to try and change the password on the workgroup but it says no workgroup cand be STARTED"
Wow! Never seen that before. I am giving a LINK to another forum. See if the check list for that issue works for you. Then please come back here and let us know.

http://forums.cnet.com/7723-19411_102-384793/can-t-connect-2-windows-7-computers-via-homegroup/ I just think I need to forget about it I have messed with thing long enough, and if it is this hard to get two computers together through windows well, I give up! I read the link you GAVE me and I think I will never get this solved without really screwing up so bad that I won't even be able to access my own files, so at this point forget it and thanks for the help you did give me maybe micro-soft will come up with something that will make this thing easier! but I doubt it!Even though you may have decided to negate setting up your home network...hopefully, you may find this link helpful. It basically describes all the steps you need to take in order to setup you home network: Start here to set up a home network in Windows 7I will tell you what I did get before deciding not to go any further, I did get to "see" the other computer in the network, now when I clicked on it it asked me for a username( I was very confused what that was) and a password confused about that too! anyway I tried the one the computer gave me and it was wrong (??) and I could not go any further, that was when I had decided to quit, now my questions that need answered are as follows: what is the username?? and what password do I use the user account password or what, and also I had shut down some services trying to speed up my computer,
and I think this has something to do with why I am having problems getting this going, like the homegroup provider service (?) I used the homegroup troubleshooter and when it said it didn't know what was wrong I clicked on the advanced link and got that message, and also I am confused about the folders I can share, the public folder (scares me to death. makes me think I am opening everything to the internet) and the media sharing that confuses me too, I understand Home network, that means the computers I have at home, but the public thing I am worried about, I don't want my computer to be a open book on the internet, and I think that doing that is opening a door to my computer, so that is where I am at now and part of the reason I am having so many problems with this. so any help with terminology or anything would be appreciated . rece,

I understand your concerns. Setting up home networking really isn't that difficult. Unfortunately my Windows 7 skills are not as good as they should be. However, I will assist you as best as possible until someone else intercedes, okay?

I need to ask you a couple of questions, too. First of all...what program did you use to speed up your computer? Did you use this program on both computers? What kind of users do you have on each computer...limited accounts? Administrative accounts?

I remember you said something about connecting wirelessly. You may want to read this: Setting up a wireless network

As far as making folders public or private...

Making a folder or file public means that those on the network have access to that file or folder. They can view it or make changes to it...depending on the access you give them. Making a file private on a home network is just the opposite...it is not viewable and no one can see it or access it.

One thing to KEEP in mind...a "wired" home network is more secure than a "wireless" home network.Upon further investigation...I came across an article which explains password protected sharing in Windows 7.

This feature requires one to do the following:

Open the Control Panel
Open the Network & Sharing Center
Select Change Advanced Sharing Settings
Expand Home & Work Network
Scroll to Password Protection
Turn off Password Protect Sharing

This is, more than likely, the reason you are getting a prompt to enter a user name and password for your home network. If the folders and files on a networked computer can be viewed on the network, but not seen...then that computer may have enabled password protected sharing.

Another good read: File Sharing EssentialsI didn't use a program to speed up my computer, I said I disabled some services, to speed up my computer, and again what is the "username"? is it the name of the computer or what is it? I don't understand what to use for the username?

and yes I password protected the sharing because I was unaware who would be seeing them (public vs home) thanks for the links they help me to understand networking I admit I don't fully understand itThe user name and password would more than likely be the user name and the password of the person on the network whose files you are trying to access.you mean the login for user account or what?

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