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Answer» I'm looking at upgrade graphics cards and the ATi Radeon 5850 1024MB looks about right but I thought I'd better check out some Nvidia cards. The Nvidia GTX285 1024MB was the best I could currently find. Now as far as I can tell the ATi is a lot better and the Nvidia is £25 more so am I missing something? It's official Nvidia suck! ATI's Catalyst drivers aren't perfect either. Anyway, the Nvidia driver thing certainly explains my recent episode of graphics artifacts at the desktop. I rolled back the driver as a relatively early troubleshooting step and it's been fine since. Additionally, since this should only affect people who upgrade drivers for upgrades sake, they are sort of taking a risk to begin with. What do you mean? I've never had any problems with ATi drivers. *Cough blatant lie*I guess the ATI Radeon 5850 since it is a DirectX 11 card. See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcJ-ZvsC210 for a full review since I never tried new video cards.Apart from the latest graphic card driver issue with 196.75, nVidia has been boosting gaming performance like crazy. While Nvidia may have occasional driver issues, so does ATI (and have done a number of times in the past). The architecture of the two types of cards are completely different, it is not much worth comparing clocks, or numbers of shaders... there is no use to wreck ur brains trying to figure which is better using that data, just look at benchmarks! ATI tends to throw in more features. That said nVidia is still faster and runs cooler. I think nVidia tends to design cards around what will be useful in games whereas ATI designs around completely supporting the latest version of DX. Note the nVidia series isn't in order of performance. Advantages of ATI: -Adopting newer tech faster/on time and normally before NVIDIA does (normally ATI tried harder to be more innovative with newer tech or coming up with something new) -normally offers decent/good performance cards at a lower price than NVIDIA (focus on best bang for buck or the sweet spot) -offer high-end multiple GPU solution at cheaper price than NVIDIA -Crossfire allows different card model to be crossfire -normally has good marketing brand names and less confusing in respect to NVIDIA Disadvantages of ATI: -normally doesn't offer fastest high end card as a single GPU card but as a multi GPU solution, thus risking to have micro-stuttering effect issue -normally has slightly slower single GPU card than NVIDIA -drivers are sometimes buggy (from past reports) Advantages of NVIDIA: -supporting game DEVELOPERS with (TWIMTBP) -having good drivers support -normally offers the fastest single GPU card than ATI (but much more expensive than ATI) -NVIDIA's high-end cards normally doesn't suffer from micro-stuttering effect since they are single GPU cards -New drivers focus on and boost some games Disadvantages of NVIDIA: -adopting the newer tech slowly -tends to/depended on overclocking the next-gen card instead of using new tech, thus ended up rebranding the old architecture cards (not being innovative enough) -TWIMTBP program is sometimes for NVIDIA's political REASON and could be seen as anti-COMPETITIVE practice like refusing to adopt DX 10.1 in time or urging game devs to REMOVE DX 10.1 from PC game Assassin's Creed to avoid rival ATI's DX 10.1 advantages. -the price of some cards are sometimes too expensive and would rip your wallet or doesn't have a good price/performance offer maybe due to failing to die shrinking the GPU. -confusing brand names that could mislead customers Nvidia was actually in the lead of graphic cards in the past and still is up there. As a hardcore gamer, I recommend Nvidia over ATi, but either are up there top in the market. Benching the ATI Radeon 5850 against the Nvidia GTX285, a single Radeon HD 5850 best Nvidia’s single-chip flagship, but it’s hardly a victory when you consider performance with one card is insufficient at any resolution once you turn on anti-aliasing. Adding AA and AF seperates out the FIELD a bit, but we have Nvidia’s GeForce GTX 285 besting the Radeon HD 5850. Pairing two of the cards together gives AMD wins at 1680x1050, while Nvidia’s SLI’d GTX 285s are faster at 2560x1600. Playing a game like GTA 4 - At 1680x1050 and 1920x1200, all of these cards are fairly playable (Grand Theft Auto IV has its own render pipeline and does not support anti-aliasing through the game’s control panel or manually-forced in the display driver). The Radeon HD 5850 loses out to Nvidia’s GeForce GTX 285 at 2560x1600. It's a true toss up between these two cards depending how you will be using them. ATI Radeon 5850 wins overall on lower resolutions without AA. Quote I think nVidia tends to design cards around what will be useful in games whereas ATI designs around completely supporting the latest version of DX. Nvidia tends to NOT design cards at all. They make the graphics chip. they do NOT make graphics cards.Why not wait a little while,with the 5970 you get twice the GPU (Cypress) that`s in the 5850. I don`t know if you really need it NOW but if you can wait wait a little bit.There is a big "war" going on between them.ATI is back and I don`t think N-Vidia will stay "sleepy".They will be back with a vengence and then the prices will drop. I`m no computer-whizz but I have been following the "war" a bit,n-Vidia is a little late with their response but it WILL COME. You are the only person who can decide for you.I hope I`ve put my 2 cents in and helped a little. I wish you all the best,greetings from Holland;Eric.you just wait, I'm sure Trident or Cirrus Logic will bring out a card that will blow everything else out of the water! Quote from: Eric1611 on March 10, 2010, 04:34:24 AM Why not wait a little while,with the 5970 you get twice the GPU (Cypress) that`s in the 5850. I was thinking about waiting for the 5900 series actually. I'll see how the prices go. The car could do with the money spending on it instead really. Quote from: BC_Programmer on March 10, 2010, 04:58:04 AM you just wait, I'm sure Trident or Cirrus Logic will bring out a card that will blow everything else out of the water! I'm sure you're being sarcastic but who? Quote from: Accessless on March 10, 2010, 09:31:11 AM I'm sure you're being sarcastic but who? Trident, Cirrus Logic, IBM, Matrox, Video 7, ATI, and several other companies used to all be in the Video card industry and quite competitive with one another. Note that Nvidia didn't come around until around the late 90's, if memory serves: Trident 8900cl: http://visualflex.net/gigagon/trident/trident-tvga8900cl-2.jpg more recent: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e9/Trident_BladeXP.jpg Trident started off as a sort of "high-end" solution (although, at the time, VGA was considered state of the art); they slowly became one of the lower rungs of the ladder to choose from. Now they are eliminated- all of them. Only Nvidia and ATI still compete in the GPU market. Matrox sells business solutions as well as triple-headed and quadruple headed video cards, and their 2-d display quality far exceeds Nvidia or ATI, but they don't even do 3-d at all, which sort of puts them in a niche. Wait a couple of months for Nvidia to release their Fermi card. Its' being showcased this month so should be out say next month if all goes well Quote from: BC_Programmer on March 10, 2010, 09:37:25 AM Trident, Cirrus Logic, IBM, Matrox, Video 7, ATI, and several other companies used to all be in the Video card industry and quite competitive with one another. Note that Nvidia didn't come around until around the late 90's, if memory serves: How could you forget to add 3DFX with their infamous Voodoo cards to the list? Quote from: Rebo00 aka Spank on March 10, 2010, 01:09:32 PM Wait a couple of months for Nvidia to release their Fermi card. Its' being showcased this month so should be out say next month if all goes well You're statement of nonsense has been ignored! j/k |
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