Solve : Buying a used desktop..how good are specs??

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Answer» Hi all, I am planning to buy a used desktop computer to replace my GTX 860m Lenovo y50 70 and here are the specs of the hardware: - Sapphire Radeon RX 470 GB VR ready. - Asus P8H61 rev 3.0 - Intel i5 3.2ghz 3470 - Cooler Master Hyper 103 - Crosair vengeance 2x8 gb - HDD: 1 TB I have already checked that the GPU can run newest games at 1080p 60 fps but my concern mostly is the how good the motherboard is and if it is possible to upgrade for better graphics CARD or CPU (AMD Ryzen for example). Also the overclockability . Here are some things to share . Is that a used custom build for sale? Is the sale through a company like eBay? Is the vendor a company or a individual? Is there any kind of warranty? What would it cost if you got new parts and built it yourself? IMHO, used electronics of any kind should either be bought directly from somebody in the same city or else from a store or online service that has some kind of warranty. I would be very careful about any home built desktop. Whenever I use a local for sale service, I want to go see the item myself and buy it on the spot for CASH. Otherwise, that sure looks like a great build. The - Asus P8H61 rev 3.0 has ood reviews. How much do they want for it? Is this the mobo? [attachment deleted by admin to conserve space]From my experience with ITX boards which this appears to be, I'd avoid it for a gaming build. They are cramped for space and I have run into issues with them. When CPU heatsink is added its going to be very close to added video card and the heat from the CPU may heat up the backside of that video card that gets added. They are better suited for people wanting to make small space saving computers that are just workstations or space saving servers. The other issue is that you have no ther PCI Express shots, just the PCI Express 16x slot and thats all. So your locked in not being able to add anything else. A bare minimum for a gaming build for motherboard, I would suggest an mATX board which is slightly larger. And it will give you a few more slots for adding cards if needed. It will be less cramped for space and components will breathe better with air space between them.Quote from: Geek-9pm on June 19, 2017, 07:29:58 AM Here are some things to share . Is that a used custom build for sale? Is the sale through a company like eBay? Is the vendor a company or a individual? Is there any kind of warranty? What would it cost if you got new parts and built it yourself? IMHO, used electronics of any kind should either be bought directly from somebody in the same city or else from a store or online service that has some kind of warranty. I would be very careful about any home built desktop. Whenever I use a local for sale service, I want to go see the item myself and buy it on the spot for cash. Otherwise, that sure looks like a great build. The - Asus P8H61 rev 3.0 has ood reviews. How much do they want for it? Is this the mobo? - Yes, it is a used build and the seller claims he bought the GPU , RAM, Cooler and Chasis in Nov 2016 with their receipts. - Neither eBay or a company. I live in Sweden and there is an app where people post things they want to sell. So am buying from an individual. - If I would get the parts myself brand new, it would perhaps cost me perhaps double the price. The seller lives in a city nearby and I would go there and meet him in case I DECIDED to buy it. Unfortunately, the seller did not post a clear picture of the mobo so I could not tell if it is identical to the one in the picture. He only posted the mode's brand and number. And I do not think the seller want to sell the mobo on its own so I do not know how much he would ask for it. But the price he is asking for the whole build is 4500 SEK ~ 516 $ Quote from: DaveLembke-9pm on June 19, 2017, 07:29:58 AM From my experience with ITX boards which this appears to be, I'd avoid it for a gaming build. They are cramped for space and I have run into issues with them. When CPU heatsink is added its going to be very close to added video card and the heat from the CPU may heat up the backside of that video card that gets added. They are better suited for people wanting to make small space saving computers that are just workstations or space saving servers. The other issue is that you have no ther PCI Express shots, just the PCI Express 16x slot and thats all. So your locked in not being able to add anything else. A bare minimum for a gaming build for motherboard, I would suggest an mATX board which is slightly larger. And it will give you a few more slots for adding cards if needed. It will be less cramped for space and components will breathe better with air space between them. I actually intend to game (or even mine) on this rig so if that is the case with such boards then I better avoid it. Especially that AMD cards tend to generate more heat as far as I know. [attachment deleted by admin to conserve space]Quote The seller lives in a city nearby and I would go there and meet him in case I decided to buy it. God idea. I do not think you will need another PCI slot. Most of what you might want can be DONE with the USB ports. Also this board has a PS/2 port, which might be useful. It also has a printer port and the old serial port, which means you can use some legacy devices with that mono. That board might now be hard to get.. But Intel will continue make CPUs that use that chip-set and socket. Quote from: Geek-9pm on June 19, 2017, 06:20:07 PM God idea. I do not think you will need another PCI slot. Most of what you might want can be done with the USB ports. Also this board has a PS/2 port, which might be useful. It also has a printer port and the old serial port, which means you can use some legacy devices with that mono. That board might now be hard to get.. But Intel will continue make CPUs that use that chip-set and socket. True but in fact I have no PS/2 peripherals nor printers around so practically those ports are of not much use. But can I for example upgrade for a better CPU, an I7 6th gen for example? Quote from: Gilgamesh21 on June 20, 2017, 03:23:27 PM But can I for example upgrade for a better CPU, an I7 6th gen for example? According to the specification sheet for the motherboard, it only supports 2nd generation Core processors (Sandy Bridge). Nice catch BC Quote Intel® Socket 1155 for 2nd Generation Core™ i7/Core™ i5/Core™ i3 Processors Supports Intel® 32 nm CPU Supports Intel® Turbo Boost Technology 2.0 * The Intel® Turbo Boost Technology 2.0 support depends on the CPU types.

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Hi all,

I am planning to buy a used desktop computer to replace my GTX 860m Lenovo y50 70 and here are the specs of the hardware:

- Sapphire Radeon RX 470 GB VR ready.
- Asus P8H61 rev 3.0
- Intel i5 3.2ghz 3470
- Cooler Master Hyper 103
- Crosair vengeance 2x8 gb
- HDD: 1 TB

I have already checked that the GPU can run newest games at 1080p 60 fps but my concern mostly is the how good the motherboard is and if it is possible to upgrade for better graphics CARD or CPU (AMD Ryzen for example). Also the overclockability .

Here are some things to share .
Is that a used custom build for sale?
Is the sale through a company like eBay?
Is the vendor a company or a individual?
Is there any kind of warranty?
What would it cost if you got new parts and built it yourself?

IMHO, used electronics of any kind should either be bought directly from somebody in the same city or else from a store or online service that has some kind of warranty. I would be very careful about any home built desktop.

Whenever I use a local for sale service, I want to go see the item myself and buy it on the spot for CASH.

Otherwise, that sure looks like a great build. The - Asus P8H61 rev 3.0 has ood reviews.
How much do they want for it?
Is this the mobo?

[attachment deleted by admin to conserve space]From my experience with ITX boards which this appears to be, I'd avoid it for a gaming build. They are cramped for space and I have run into issues with them. When CPU heatsink is added its going to be very close to added video card and the heat from the CPU may heat up the backside of that video card that gets added.

They are better suited for people wanting to make small space saving computers that are just workstations or space saving servers. The other issue is that you have no ther PCI Express shots, just the PCI Express 16x slot and thats all. So your locked in not being able to add anything else.

A bare minimum for a gaming build for motherboard, I would suggest an mATX board which is slightly larger. And it will give you a few more slots for adding cards if needed. It will be less cramped for space and components will breathe better with air space between them.Quote from: Geek-9pm on June 19, 2017, 07:29:58 AM

Here are some things to share .
Is that a used custom build for sale?
Is the sale through a company like eBay?
Is the vendor a company or a individual?
Is there any kind of warranty?
What would it cost if you got new parts and built it yourself?

IMHO, used electronics of any kind should either be bought directly from somebody in the same city or else from a store or online service that has some kind of warranty. I would be very careful about any home built desktop.

Whenever I use a local for sale service, I want to go see the item myself and buy it on the spot for cash.

Otherwise, that sure looks like a great build. The - Asus P8H61 rev 3.0 has ood reviews.
How much do they want for it?
Is this the mobo?

- Yes, it is a used build and the seller claims he bought the GPU , RAM, Cooler and Chasis in Nov 2016 with their receipts.
- Neither eBay or a company. I live in Sweden and there is an app where people post things they want to sell. So am buying from an individual.
- If I would get the parts myself brand new, it would perhaps cost me perhaps double the price.

The seller lives in a city nearby and I would go there and meet him in case I DECIDED to buy it.

Unfortunately, the seller did not post a clear picture of the mobo so I could not tell if it is identical to the one in the picture. He only posted the mode's brand and number. And I do not think the seller want to sell the mobo on its own so I do not know how much he would ask for it. But the price he is asking for the whole build is 4500 SEK ~ 516 $

Quote from: DaveLembke-9pm on June 19, 2017, 07:29:58 AM

From my experience with ITX boards which this appears to be, I'd avoid it for a gaming build. They are cramped for space and I have run into issues with them. When CPU heatsink is added its going to be very close to added video card and the heat from the CPU may heat up the backside of that video card that gets added.

They are better suited for people wanting to make small space saving computers that are just workstations or space saving servers. The other issue is that you have no ther PCI Express shots, just the PCI Express 16x slot and thats all. So your locked in not being able to add anything else.

A bare minimum for a gaming build for motherboard, I would suggest an mATX board which is slightly larger. And it will give you a few more slots for adding cards if needed. It will be less cramped for space and components will breathe better with air space between them.

I actually intend to game (or even mine) on this rig so if that is the case with such boards then I better avoid it. Especially that AMD cards tend to generate more heat as far as I know.

[attachment deleted by admin to conserve space]Quote

The seller lives in a city nearby and I would go there and meet him in case I decided to buy it.

God idea.
I do not think you will need another PCI slot. Most of what you might want can be DONE with the USB ports. Also this board has a PS/2 port, which might be useful. It also has a printer port and the old serial port, which means you can use some legacy devices with that mono. That board might now be hard to get.. But Intel will continue make CPUs that use that chip-set and socket.

Quote from: Geek-9pm on June 19, 2017, 06:20:07 PM

God idea.
I do not think you will need another PCI slot. Most of what you might want can be done with the USB ports. Also this board has a PS/2 port, which might be useful. It also has a printer port and the old serial port, which means you can use some legacy devices with that mono. That board might now be hard to get.. But Intel will continue make CPUs that use that chip-set and socket.

True but in fact I have no PS/2 peripherals nor printers around so practically those ports are of not much use. But can I for example upgrade for a better CPU, an I7 6th gen for example? Quote from: Gilgamesh21 on June 20, 2017, 03:23:27 PM

But can I for example upgrade for a better CPU, an I7 6th gen for example?

According to the specification sheet for the motherboard, it only supports 2nd generation Core processors (Sandy Bridge). Nice catch BC

Quote

Intel® Socket 1155 for 2nd Generation Core™ i7/Core™ i5/Core™ i3 Processors
Supports Intel® 32 nm CPU
Supports Intel® Turbo Boost Technology 2.0
* The Intel® Turbo Boost Technology 2.0 support depends on the CPU types.

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