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Solve : Can I Build new XP pc incorporating '98 Hd drive??

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A little knowledge is, I know, a dangerous thing.

I'd like to either

1. upgrade an old mid tower that currently runs Windows '98 with
A. New Motherboard & AMD Athlon 64 CPU (old one is INTEL Celeron)
B. New Hard Drive (120 Gig or better) -- Old one is 40g
C. DVD/CD BURNER
D. incorporating old DVD rom as 2nd optical
E. incorporating old mobile hard drive rack (removeable hard drive? is that a better way to describe it?)
E. 9-in-one card reader



2. Build new from scratch with above components.

One of the main objectives is to preserve the data on the old system's hard drive without operating the new system with that drive.

The old win'98 System has a removeable hard drive slot. I'd like to be able to use the old 40Gig hard drive (because of the data on it) as a removeable, while running the new system on a 120Gig or larger HD. New system must be either Windows XP Home or Prof. Old system runs on Win'98se.

I have so many questions I don't know where to start asking. Please forgive any confusing content in the question. I repeat again, a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing, and I feel like I only have a little knowledge at the present time. I beg your patience in helping me increase that knowledge.

I. Can I simply use the old HD as a removeable, even though it contains '98, since the OS for the new system will be XP? That is, will the new system not care about the OS on the old, since it's not running the system? I'm pretty sure I'd have to change dip switches from primare to slave; no prob there.

II. Is it going to be less trouble, in the long run, just to copy that data on another storage device, such as a flash memory device? (I really like the mobile/removeable hard drive feature as a way to clone and back up HD data.)

III. Presuming keeping the old case is adviseable, how do I verify that the new AMD motherboard will fit in it?

IV. Would it be wiser to operate the new system on the smaller (old) drive, using the new, larger drive for storage only?

I'll be glad to give more specifics in my info if someone will help me find it. Things like memory, power supply wattage, etc. in old system. I've seen it before when spelunking through my utilities, but don't know how to find it again.

And I'll stop there for now.

thanks so much for any replies.

thetimoth



Just some basics to get started.

It is better to have the primary drive be the largest and fastest physical drive. (This usually equates to the newest as well.)

You can use the old drive as a slave. At the earliest opportunity I would temporarily copy those files to a new folder on the main hard drive. Then partition and format the 40 gig drive and copy just the data files back there. You do not need the Windows or program files anymore as you are not running 98.

You posted no specifics about the old machine. If it is an HP for instance the power supply should NOT be salvaged. As a matter of fact unless it is a name brand, 400+w that is relatively new I would leave that one alone. A bad or cheap PSU can damage other expensive components. By recycling an old one many hobbyists realize they did not save any money in the end.

Get a legit CD of XP from whatever retailer you like. Warez are bad business so avoid them. If you want Microsoft there is a price tag. Don't use a friends' copy as it mess up the install on both the machines. It is not like 98 (although the license is very similar).

I'll let some others chime in for a while.
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Double post..
If you mean the post in the Windows section, he did ask if he would be better off posting in the hardware section, which I advised him to do
So it is a double post, but the reason is that it was in the wrong section to begin withI'll go delete the other one.
But here's Raptor's advice to chew on:

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Don't bother using old technology with new technology. That will simply create performance bottlenecks and you can't trust the older hardware anymore, anyway.

Built one from scratch with only new parts. And you probably should get a new case as well, unless it is of ATX form factor. In which case I'd only keep it if its made of decent material and has good airflow room.
Thanks so much for the replies! It makes perfect sense. The old machine, BTW, is a brandless white box. Dunno the PSU wattage, but am sure it's less than 400. And it's at least 4 years old.

I've been building this new machine in my head (and in my word processor -- that is, getting component prices and comparing dealers, etc. I get ... {I read it somewhere on this forum, I think:} computerphobia, or somekind of phobia that describes a fear of building a pc. I've seen enough deals to conclude that price is a wash. Since I'm not building top-of-the-line, blasting gaming machine, an adequate machine can be purchased that is worth any small difference to have the thing put together and warranted.

However, my main objective in ASPIRING to build in the first place was to learn from the process. I've had about 4 or 5 machines built for me, and sat and watched about 3 of them come together on the computer retailer's workbench. I learn so much just by watching the geeks whizz through the steps. I fantasize that if I took it step by step, I'd learn even more, and it would stick with me.

Newegg, Tomshardware, ... these are the sites I've been to the most, scouting combo deals for mbd, cpu, etc.,

I'm rambling a bit, and maybe should chance the THREAD I post this in.

I am a musician. Sometimes, I compare asking you guys how to build a computer to someone asking me about a piece of music or a musical instrument. Some aspects of a song I can explain, and that in great detail. But no amount of explanation will enable the reader to play/sing the piece. That capability is directly dependant on things that can't be explained, but must be learned.

The computer industry is so vast. In the early days of MS_DOS, I was HIGH on the geek scale, able to help a lot of people with things. I haven't kept up so faithfully with Windows.

Sorry for the double post. It won't happen again. (Thanks Calum for the explanation) And sorry if this belongs elsewhere in the forum.

thetimoth
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Just some basics to get started.

At the earliest opportunity I would temporarily copy those files to a new folder on the main hard drive. Then partition and format the 40 gig drive and copy just the data files back there. You do not need the Windows or program files anymore as you are not running 98.

This sparks another question. Suppose I build a machine with xp, but want to run some application on the old drive. Will xp be running the old program? Or when the old application is executed, will it be using the old OS?

(Thanks for the clear, insightful answers, btw. You've been very helpful!


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This sparks another question. Suppose I build a machine with xp, but want to run some application on the old drive. Will xp be running the old program? Or when the old application is executed, will it be using the old OS?
If you start the program whilst in XP, XP will run the program, not the old OS
The only way you could use the old OS to run the program would be to boot from the old drive with 98 still on it, but as GX1_Man said, it would be better to back up the files you need from the old drive and reformat it, then use it for extra storageThanks!

How very helpful!

No problem, glad I/we could helpIf in fact those older programs will run under XP...mostly though you should have no problem.
If you find any that do not post back and we will teach you about compatibility mode...


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