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Answer» Thank you Term_ite. An in-depth study of this will yield more information that what most users what to read. I did a simple search on Google: why CF cards may not work in card readers I got too many hits. It seems this is a common question. Here is one I thinkg comes close from Microsoft: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/usb-3-card-reader-does-not-read-cf-cards-in/9998092b-3998-4bd2-834f-3f9ca7fee5f9 You can see this was hard to explain even by experts. There is nothing wrong with the hardware or software. It is a compatibility issue that is known, but not understood by everyone. Here is another: https://www.premiumbeat.com/blog/everything-you-need-to-know-about-cf-cards/ Quote Let’s get the simple stuff out of the way first… A CF card (CompactFlash) is a small memory card used in many modern camera systems. CF cards are durable, fast, and portable, making them a great option for professional photographers and filmmakers alike. That is the simple stuff. From there are it gets deep. Not are memory cards are created equal. A card suitable for a specific camera migh not work somewhere else, even tho it looks like it shroud. The real issue is that card readers are not really universal. Here is a link that explains what that means: https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/hardware-cardreader.html.en The fellow knows what his is talking about. He concludes this way: ... The best solution is to directly connect your device (camera, cell phone, etc.) to a USB port on the computer. What makes things worse is the empirical tests made by users that would suggest you need a better computer, a better OS, a better card reader and so on. CF cards were made to work in Cameras, not card readers.So then, when they do not work in card readers it does not mean they are defective. O/K I apologize if I have offended anyone, I will start again. I have 5 Panasonic, cameras, FZ50, 47, and 100, a TZ10 and a G2, all of which have memory cards that have been used to download hundreds of images with no problem at all until now. I simply remove the card from the camera, insert it in the reader, insert the reader into a USB port, Instructions appear on the screen and click Import. simple as that however now what is appearing on the screen is No new pictures found on this device, even though there are many pictures on the card. I have never been asked for a drive letter, thank you Lisa Maree, but frankly, the site you suggest frightens the daylights out of me. what I have written suggests to me that the camera model is irrelevant, I have tried many things including a system restore and deleting recent updates and have RUN out of ideas, grounded, What does it take to tell you something? It is not a system issue. It is not a hardware issue. It is not a software issue. CF cards are made to work in the camera. The fact that millions use card readers do not disprove that. But If you can use a card reader, fine. Put another way, the people who make card readers hare no e reason to make sure the card reader will read every good CF card. Still, you have the option of buying a better card reader. https://wiki.ezvid.com/best-usb-card-readers Read the article very carefully. The author does mot warn you that results might vary. He did not do any real testing. I owned or have owned 10 digital cameras and six card readers, and plenty of cards in the last 15 YEARS or so. Common reasons for a card working in the camera (stored images viewable on the camera screen) but not in a card reader, that I have actually found include: Card put in reader upside down (my "knowledgeable" brother-in-law). Card not pushed in reader far enough (my cousin) Card is marginal quality; reads in camera but not reader (or only some readers) Reader is marginal; reads some cards but not others (manufacturing tolerances - tiny contacts?) Card is failing, reads once or twice then dies Card (micro SD size) is OK; inserted in bad standard SD adapter (or vice versa) Camera records images in some brand-specific format so the PC needs special software (some Nikons for example) The images are actually in the camera's internal memory and not on the card. Contacts on card need cleaning (pencil eraser) Bad (damaged) USB port on PC No USB devices usable on PC (misbehaving driver) USB OUTLET on front of case not connected to motherboard (shop bought PC) Clearly, without further information, we are just guessing. Quote from: grounded on December 30, 2018, 10:10:09 PM I have 5 Panasonic, cameras, FZ50, 47, and 100, a TZ10 and a G2, all of which have memory cards that have been used to download hundreds of images with no problem at all until now. I simply remove the card from the camera, insert it in the reader, insert the reader into a USB port Is this the same card? Could be damaged by repeated insertions/removals. What happens when you put the card in the reader and then go to My Computer or This PC in Windows Explorer? Do you see a new drive letter? Does it have a folder called DCIM? Are there files in this folder, maybe with a .jpg extension? If so, and you enable thumbnail view, can you recognise any pictures?Salmon, do you really think I have not tried other cards, You go on about drive letters, folders, jpeg etc extensions, all that crap has nothing to do with the problem, sounds as if you have never downloaded photographs to a computer with a card reader. I am no expert by a long shot, but not an idiot either. Oh, dear. You could try PHOTOGRAPHY Stack Exchange, perhaps? You'd have to improve your manners, and answer (probably) all the questions you have failed to do here. Also, they can remove questions altogether if they get enough "downvotes", or "votes to close", which, luckily for you, they don't have here. Good luck! I look forward to seeing you there! https://photo.stackexchange.com/ The OP is not willing to learn. Here is info of interest for others with this issue. The title of this thread is: Card reader not workink The answer is: When anything is not workink You must begin thinkink Consider the Alternative method. Here is a long quote from an article that was published years sago: Organize and Share Your Holiday Photos ... Print Photos Directly From Your Camera Printing directly from your digital camera to your printer saves time; and all major camera and printer manufacturers build in PictBridge functionality, which allows the process to happen. You can print single images, thumbnail contact sheets, multiple images, date-stamped images, selected areas of images, multiple copies, and more. Some features depend on your camera and printer, but PictBridge works well on a huge array of devices. 1. Make sure that both your digital camera and your printer are PictBridge-compatible. You can do this by visiting the CIPA Website or by checking your user manuals for each device. You may also want to check your product boxes: PictBridge-enabled products usually have the PictBridge logo printed on the manufacturer's box. 2. Though PictBridge works automatically on most Canon and Nikon cameras, some Olympus, Panasonic, and Sony cameras may require you to change the USB function on the camera in order to recognize a printer input. You'll perform this step in your camera's settings menu. 3. When you're ready, turn off your camera, and turn on your printer. 4. Connect the camera to the printer with a USB cable. Camera manufacturers usually include these cables with their cameras, and they're easy to replace if you misplace your original one. 5. Turn on the camera. 6. Your camera's LCD screen will start up, and you'll be able to navigate through the print options available to you with your particular combination of camera and printer. The interface varies slightly from one camera manufacturer to another, but you'll almost always use the camera's control pad to navigate through your images, selecting an image to print by pressing the OK button. On most cameras, you can access additional options by pressing the unit's menu button. Only functions available on both devices will be available for your use. You may be able to print a date-stamped image on one printer, for example, but not on another. Generally speaking, however, the newer your camera and printer are, the more print functions it will support. 7. Once you've finished printing, turn off your camera and remove your USB cable from both devices The above uses neither a card reader nor a laptop PC. (Link available upon request. ) Quote from: grounded on December 31, 2018, 02:26:35 AM You go on about drive letters, folders, jpeg etc extensions, all that crap has nothing to do with the problem They do. When you plug in a card reader, a drive letter becomes available. It is the drive letter becoming available which triggers software installed on your system - "Instructions appear on the screen and click Import". It is the launched software through this process that is giving you the message that there are no new images. "No new pictures found in this device" either means there are no pictures on the card, or all the filenames that are on the card are already listed as imported by the importing software. Salmon Trout's intent was to determine if indeed the pictures were visible directly on the card; This would isolate if the issue is with the software in question or determine if there is something amiss upon the card(s) or card reader itself. I guess we'll never know. I am getting nowhere here, so am giving up this thread and will look for another help forum, googling the problem shows it is a common anomaly in windows7 that is difficult to fix, rather than a fault in the camera, card, reader, or operator usage. I wish to thank the moderator for his patience, HAPPY new year folks. Topic Closed. Thanx so much for cheering everyone up sunshine.

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Thank you Term_ite.
An in-depth study of this will yield more information that what most users what to read. I did a simple search on Google:
why CF cards may not work in card readers
I got too many hits. It seems this is a common question. Here is one I thinkg comes close from Microsoft:
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/usb-3-card-reader-does-not-read-cf-cards-in/9998092b-3998-4bd2-834f-3f9ca7fee5f9
You can see this was hard to explain even by experts. There is nothing wrong with the hardware or software. It is a compatibility issue that is known, but not understood by everyone.
Here is another:
https://www.premiumbeat.com/blog/everything-you-need-to-know-about-cf-cards/
Quote

Let’s get the simple stuff out of the way first…
A CF card (CompactFlash) is a small memory card used in many modern camera systems. CF cards are durable, fast, and portable, making them a great option for professional photographers and filmmakers alike.

That is the simple stuff. From there are it gets deep. Not are memory cards are created equal. A card suitable for a specific camera migh not work somewhere else, even tho it looks like it shroud.

The real issue is that card readers are not really universal. Here is a link that explains what that means:
https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/hardware-cardreader.html.en
The fellow knows what his is talking about. He concludes this way:
... The best solution is to directly connect your device (camera, cell phone, etc.) to a USB port on the computer.
What makes things worse is the empirical tests made by users that would suggest you need a better computer, a better OS, a better card reader and so on.
CF cards were made to work in Cameras, not card readers.So then, when they do not work in card readers it does not mean they are defective. O/K I apologize if I have offended anyone, I will start again. I have 5 Panasonic, cameras, FZ50, 47, and 100, a TZ10 and a G2, all of which have memory cards that have been used to download hundreds of images with no problem at all until now. I simply remove the card from the camera, insert it in the reader, insert the reader into a USB port, Instructions appear on the screen and click Import. simple as that however now what is appearing on the screen is No new pictures found on this device, even though there are many pictures on the card. I have never been asked for a drive letter, thank you Lisa Maree, but frankly, the site you suggest frightens the daylights out of me. what I have written suggests to me that the camera model is irrelevant, I have tried many things including a system restore and deleting recent updates and have RUN out of ideas, grounded,
What does it take to tell you something?
It is not a system issue.
It is not a hardware issue.
It is not a software issue.

CF cards are made to work in the camera.
The fact that millions use card readers do not disprove that.

But If you can use a card reader, fine.

Put another way, the people who make card readers hare no e reason to make sure the card reader will read every good CF card.

Still, you have the option of buying a better card reader.
https://wiki.ezvid.com/best-usb-card-readers
Read the article very carefully. The author does mot warn you that results might vary. He did not do any real testing.
I owned or have owned 10 digital cameras and six card readers, and plenty of cards in the last 15 YEARS or so. Common reasons for a card working in the camera (stored images viewable on the camera screen) but not in a card reader, that I have actually found include:

Card put in reader upside down (my "knowledgeable" brother-in-law).
Card not pushed in reader far enough (my cousin)
Card is marginal quality; reads in camera but not reader (or only some readers)
Reader is marginal; reads some cards but not others (manufacturing tolerances - tiny contacts?)
Card is failing, reads once or twice then dies
Card (micro SD size) is OK; inserted in bad standard SD adapter (or vice versa)
Camera records images in some brand-specific format so the PC needs special software (some Nikons for example)
The images are actually in the camera's internal memory and not on the card.
Contacts on card need cleaning (pencil eraser)
Bad (damaged) USB port on PC
No USB devices usable on PC (misbehaving driver)
USB OUTLET on front of case not connected to motherboard (shop bought PC)

Clearly, without further information, we are just guessing.

Quote from: grounded on December 30, 2018, 10:10:09 PM

I have 5 Panasonic, cameras, FZ50, 47, and 100, a TZ10 and a G2, all of which have memory cards that have been used to download hundreds of images with no problem at all until now. I simply remove the card from the camera, insert it in the reader, insert the reader into a USB port

Is this the same card? Could be damaged by repeated insertions/removals.

What happens when you put the card in the reader and then go to My Computer or This PC in Windows Explorer? Do you see a new drive letter? Does it have a folder called DCIM? Are there files in this folder, maybe with a .jpg extension? If so, and you enable thumbnail view, can you recognise any pictures?Salmon, do you really think I have not tried other cards, You go on about drive letters, folders, jpeg etc extensions, all that crap has nothing to do with the problem, sounds as if you have never downloaded photographs to a computer with a card reader. I am no expert by a long shot, but not an idiot either. Oh, dear. You could try PHOTOGRAPHY Stack Exchange, perhaps? You'd have to improve your manners, and answer (probably) all the questions you have failed to do here. Also, they can remove questions altogether if they get enough "downvotes", or "votes to close", which, luckily for you, they don't have here.

Good luck! I look forward to seeing you there!

https://photo.stackexchange.com/

The OP is not willing to learn.
Here is info of interest for others with this issue.
The title of this thread is:
Card reader not workink
The answer is:
When anything is not workink
You must begin thinkink

Consider the Alternative method.

Here is a long quote from an article that was published years sago:

Organize and Share Your Holiday Photos
...
Print Photos Directly From Your Camera

Printing directly from your digital camera to your printer saves time; and all major camera and printer manufacturers build in PictBridge functionality, which allows the process to happen. You can print single images, thumbnail contact sheets, multiple images, date-stamped images, selected areas of images, multiple copies, and more. Some features depend on your camera and printer, but PictBridge works well on a huge array of devices.

1. Make sure that both your digital camera and your printer are PictBridge-compatible. You can do this by visiting the CIPA Website or by checking your user manuals for each device. You may also want to check your product boxes: PictBridge-enabled products usually have the PictBridge logo printed on the manufacturer's box.

2. Though PictBridge works automatically on most Canon and Nikon cameras, some Olympus, Panasonic, and Sony cameras may require you to change the USB function on the camera in order to recognize a printer input. You'll perform this step in your camera's settings menu.

3. When you're ready, turn off your camera, and turn on your printer.

4. Connect the camera to the printer with a USB cable. Camera manufacturers usually include these cables with their cameras, and they're easy to replace if you misplace your original one.

5. Turn on the camera.

6. Your camera's LCD screen will start up, and you'll be able to navigate through the print options available to you with your particular combination of camera and printer. The interface varies slightly from one camera manufacturer to another, but you'll almost always use the camera's control pad to navigate through your images, selecting an image to print by pressing the OK button. On most cameras, you can access additional options by pressing the unit's menu button. Only functions available on both devices will be available for your use. You may be able to print a date-stamped image on one printer, for example, but not on another. Generally speaking, however, the newer your camera and printer are, the more print functions it will support.

7. Once you've finished printing, turn off your camera and remove your USB cable from both devices

The above uses neither a card reader nor a laptop PC.
(Link available upon request. ) Quote from: grounded on December 31, 2018, 02:26:35 AM

You go on about drive letters, folders, jpeg etc extensions, all that crap has nothing to do with the problem

They do. When you plug in a card reader, a drive letter becomes available. It is the drive letter becoming available which triggers software installed on your system - "Instructions appear on the screen and click Import". It is the launched software through this process that is giving you the message that there are no new images.

"No new pictures found in this device" either means there are no pictures on the card, or all the filenames that are on the card are already listed as imported by the importing software. Salmon Trout's intent was to determine if indeed the pictures were visible directly on the card; This would isolate if the issue is with the software in question or determine if there is something amiss upon the card(s) or card reader itself. I guess we'll never know.

I am getting nowhere here, so am giving up this thread and will look for another help forum, googling the problem shows it is a common anomaly in windows7 that is difficult to fix, rather than a fault in the camera, card, reader, or operator usage. I wish to thank the moderator for his patience, HAPPY new year folks. Topic Closed.

Thanx so much for cheering everyone up sunshine.

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