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Answer» I am wondering if my CPU is running at its best. I am new to this KIND of stuff with a computer, and was wondering if someone could give me some info. Here are screenshots from CPU scans that i just did. [Saving space, attachment DELETED by admin]Looks as if your FSB is not set correctly. You can see it's running at a 100MHz bus, should be at 166MHz - therefore your processor is running at 1.1GHz as you can see, where it should be at 1.8GHz. If you go onto the motherboard tab in CPU-Z and post another screenshot, we'll be able to see what board you have and then give you the steps to fix this issue. Hope this helps The 2nd capture indicates it is at 200Mhz...Here is a motherboard screenshot, i think [Saving space, attachment deleted by admin]Quote from: patio on February 01, 2010, 03:11:53 PM The 2nd capture indicates it is at 200Mhz... Sorry, I wasn't too clear. The Athlon XP uses a "double pumped" FSB, so a 100MHz FSB becomes a 200MHz effective FSB. The CPU-Z screenshot shows "Bus Speed" 100MHz, "effective FSB" 200MHz, and WCPUID shows "System Clock" 100MHz, "System Bus" 200MHz. Confusingly there isn't a STANDARD way to refer to these speeds, hope this clears things up a little. As for the motherboard screenshot, that's the right tab yes, unfortunately though CPU-Z can't get the motherboard make/model so I can't be sure how you would change the bus speed. if you have a motherboard manual that would be helpful, or any documentation on your motherboard's make/model (or computer's make/model, if it's a prebuilt system) would also be of use. I'm hesitant to offer general steps as if the wrong setting is changed in the BIOS the system can be rendered unbootable, necessitating a CMOS clear/reset. If you're comfortable with opening up the system the motherboard make/model should be printed on it somewhere.Here is what the box tells me. DFI LanParty NFII ULTRA P/N AN8101-0 If you need anything else about it...i can see what i can find on the sticker on the box.Quote from: newguy87 on February 02, 2010, 02:19:56 PM Here is what the box tells me. DFI LanParty NFII ULTRA P/N AN8101-0 If you need anything else about it...i can see what i can find on the sticker on the box. http://www.dfi.com.tw/portal/CM/cmproduct/XX_cmproddetail/XX_WbProdsWindow?action=e&windowstate=normal&mode=viewRelevant information from the motherboard manual - page 23, check that the CPU FSB speed jumper is set correctly (to "On"), and page 82, which describes how to set the FSB manually. To do this, enter the BIOS by pressing the Delete key when the system boots, and then go into the "Genie BIOS setting". Change the CPU clock setting to 166MHz, then save and EXIT. Don't change anything else, as you may cause system instability. Important - if your system will not boot after this for some reason, you will need to clear the CMOS. The easiest way to do this is to unplug the machine, take the side off, and locate the CMOS battery, which is a small flat silver battery about the size of a 10p coin. It's near the bottom left hand corner of the motherboard - remove this for 5-10 minutes, then replace it. Hope this helps thank you very much, I will definitely try this...is there any worry about doing this, like if i make it that setting..and its not supposed to be, will it fry my computer or anything?Changing the setting shouldn't cause any issues, no. Just make sure to only change the setting described and nothing else, and if all else fails and it won't boot for some reason, just take out the battery as I described to get back to standard settings. Hope it works out for you, please do let us know how it goes. Oh, and you're welcome Quote from: Crosshair on February 02, 2010, 12:29:26 PM Confusingly there isn't a standard way to refer to these speeds, hope this clears things up a little. Well, there sort of is.. You will generally find that the cpu core speed is a multiple of the "external" fsb speed. When the term "FSB" is used with out the word "external" it almost always refers to the double-pumped speed of an AMD cpu, or the quad-pumped speed of an Intel cpu..Quote from: newguy87 on February 02, 2010, 02:19:56 PM DFI LanParty NFII ULTRA Also... This is kind of vague... Does the box say what the revision number is.. Is there a number/letter after "Ultra" If my suspicion is correct, this is a highly flexible motherboard and if one configuration doesn't work, a different configuration almost certainly will... What is the speed of your ram? Quote from: Crosshair on February 01, 2010, 01:18:39 PM Looks as if your FSB is not set correctly. You can see it's running at a 100MHz bus, should be at 166MHz - therefore your processor is running at 1.1GHz as you can see, where it should be at 1.8GHz. Seems like you're making some assumptions here, since he has not stated what Athon XP processor he has. I have an Athlon XP 2200, which runs at the rated clock speed of 1.8GHz with FSB speed set at 133MHz in the BIOS. So, the multiplied (2x) FSB speed is 266MHz. Quote from: soybean on February 04, 2010, 10:10:05 AM Seems like you're making some assumptions here, since he has not stated what Athon XP processor he has. I have an Athlon XP 2200, which runs at the rated clock speed of 1.8GHz with FSB speed set at 133MHz in the BIOS. So, the multiplied (2x) FSB speed is 266MHz. Actually, you're quite right. After I read that, I went back and double checked, and in actual fact the CPU could be a 2500+ as I assumed, or a 3200+. The former uses a 266MHz bus whereas the latter uses a 400MHz bus.Those are the only two Barton core Athlon XPs with a multiplier of 11, so it's almost certainly one of the two. Certainly, unless the multiplier has been changed, however this is unlikely. Thank you for pointing out my mistake, I do apologise for not checking properly before posting and I will do so in future. In this case no harm would be done by choosing the lower speed which I advised (other than the CPU still not running at its full speed) but in future it could be something more serious so I will make 100% sure to triple check before posting. Quote from: EEVIAC on February 04, 2010, 06:29:53 AM Well, there sort of is.. You will generally find that the cpu core speed is a multiple of the "external" fsb speed. When the term "FSB" is used with out the word "external" it almost always refers to the double-pumped speed of an AMD cpu, or the quad-pumped speed of an Intel cpu.. I guess it depends where you read/see the terms. Comparing the two screenshots/programs there is no standard way of referring to the FSB or bus speed, whichever you want to call it. Also, different people call it different things, so although there may in actuality be a standard way of referring to the speeds, I rarely see the terms used the same way consistently.Quote from: Crosshair on February 04, 2010, 12:31:13 PM ...Comparing the two screenshots/programs there is no standard way of referring to the FSB or bus speed, whichever you want to call it. Also, different people call it different things, so although there may in actuality be a standard way of referring to the speeds, I rarely see the terms used the same way consistently. Now, isn't that the truth!! In any event, the CPU is operating at 1100MHz, far below it's "rated" speed.

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I am wondering if my CPU is running at its best. I am new to this KIND of stuff with a computer, and was wondering if someone could give me some info. Here are screenshots from CPU scans that i just did.

[Saving space, attachment DELETED by admin]Looks as if your FSB is not set correctly.
You can see it's running at a 100MHz bus, should be at 166MHz - therefore your processor is running at 1.1GHz as you can see, where it should be at 1.8GHz.
If you go onto the motherboard tab in CPU-Z and post another screenshot, we'll be able to see what board you have and then give you the steps to fix this issue.
Hope this helps The 2nd capture indicates it is at 200Mhz...Here is a motherboard screenshot, i think

[Saving space, attachment deleted by admin]Quote from: patio on February 01, 2010, 03:11:53 PM

The 2nd capture indicates it is at 200Mhz...

Sorry, I wasn't too clear. The Athlon XP uses a "double pumped" FSB, so a 100MHz FSB becomes a 200MHz effective FSB. The CPU-Z screenshot shows "Bus Speed" 100MHz, "effective FSB" 200MHz, and WCPUID shows "System Clock" 100MHz, "System Bus" 200MHz. Confusingly there isn't a STANDARD way to refer to these speeds, hope this clears things up a little.

As for the motherboard screenshot, that's the right tab yes, unfortunately though CPU-Z can't get the motherboard make/model so I can't be sure how you would change the bus speed. if you have a motherboard manual that would be helpful, or any documentation on your motherboard's make/model (or computer's make/model, if it's a prebuilt system) would also be of use.
I'm hesitant to offer general steps as if the wrong setting is changed in the BIOS the system can be rendered unbootable, necessitating a CMOS clear/reset.
If you're comfortable with opening up the system the motherboard make/model should be printed on it somewhere.Here is what the box tells me.

DFI LanParty NFII ULTRA
P/N AN8101-0

If you need anything else about it...i can see what i can find on the sticker on the box.Quote from: newguy87 on February 02, 2010, 02:19:56 PM

Here is what the box tells me.

DFI LanParty NFII ULTRA
P/N AN8101-0

If you need anything else about it...i can see what i can find on the sticker on the box.

http://www.dfi.com.tw/portal/CM/cmproduct/XX_cmproddetail/XX_WbProdsWindow?action=e&windowstate=normal&mode=viewRelevant information from the motherboard manual - page 23, check that the CPU FSB speed jumper is set correctly (to "On"), and page 82, which describes how to set the FSB manually.
To do this, enter the BIOS by pressing the Delete key when the system boots, and then go into the "Genie BIOS setting". Change the CPU clock setting to 166MHz, then save and EXIT. Don't change anything else, as you may cause system instability.

Important - if your system will not boot after this for some reason, you will need to clear the CMOS. The easiest way to do this is to unplug the machine, take the side off, and locate the CMOS battery, which is a small flat silver battery about the size of a 10p coin. It's near the bottom left hand corner of the motherboard - remove this for 5-10 minutes, then replace it.

Hope this helps thank you very much, I will definitely try this...is there any worry about doing this, like if i make it that setting..and its not supposed to be, will it fry my computer or anything?Changing the setting shouldn't cause any issues, no.
Just make sure to only change the setting described and nothing else, and if all else fails and it won't boot for some reason, just take out the battery as I described to get back to standard settings.
Hope it works out for you, please do let us know how it goes. Oh, and you're welcome Quote from: Crosshair on February 02, 2010, 12:29:26 PM

Confusingly there isn't a standard way to refer to these speeds, hope this clears things up a little.

Well, there sort of is.. You will generally find that the cpu core speed is a multiple of the "external" fsb speed. When the term "FSB" is used with out the word "external" it almost always refers to the double-pumped speed of an AMD cpu, or the quad-pumped speed of an Intel cpu..Quote from: newguy87 on February 02, 2010, 02:19:56 PM

DFI LanParty NFII ULTRA

Also... This is kind of vague... Does the box say what the revision number is.. Is there a number/letter after "Ultra"

If my suspicion is correct, this is a highly flexible motherboard and if one configuration doesn't work, a different configuration almost certainly will... What is the speed of your ram?
Quote from: Crosshair on February 01, 2010, 01:18:39 PM

Looks as if your FSB is not set correctly.
You can see it's running at a 100MHz bus, should be at 166MHz - therefore your processor is running at 1.1GHz as you can see, where it should be at 1.8GHz.

Seems like you're making some assumptions here, since he has not stated what Athon XP processor he has. I have an Athlon XP 2200, which runs at the rated clock speed of 1.8GHz with FSB speed set at 133MHz in the BIOS. So, the multiplied (2x) FSB speed is 266MHz. Quote from: soybean on February 04, 2010, 10:10:05 AM

Seems like you're making some assumptions here, since he has not stated what Athon XP processor he has. I have an Athlon XP 2200, which runs at the rated clock speed of 1.8GHz with FSB speed set at 133MHz in the BIOS. So, the multiplied (2x) FSB speed is 266MHz.

Actually, you're quite right. After I read that, I went back and double checked, and in actual fact the CPU could be a 2500+ as I assumed, or a 3200+. The former uses a 266MHz bus whereas the latter uses a 400MHz bus.Those are the only two Barton core Athlon XPs with a multiplier of 11, so it's almost certainly one of the two. Certainly, unless the multiplier has been changed, however this is unlikely.
Thank you for pointing out my mistake, I do apologise for not checking properly before posting and I will do so in future. In this case no harm would be done by choosing the lower speed which I advised (other than the CPU still not running at its full speed) but in future it could be something more serious so I will make 100% sure to triple check before posting.

Quote from: EEVIAC on February 04, 2010, 06:29:53 AM

Well, there sort of is.. You will generally find that the cpu core speed is a multiple of the "external" fsb speed. When the term "FSB" is used with out the word "external" it almost always refers to the double-pumped speed of an AMD cpu, or the quad-pumped speed of an Intel cpu..

I guess it depends where you read/see the terms. Comparing the two screenshots/programs there is no standard way of referring to the FSB or bus speed, whichever you want to call it. Also, different people call it different things, so although there may in actuality be a standard way of referring to the speeds, I rarely see the terms used the same way consistently.Quote from: Crosshair on February 04, 2010, 12:31:13 PM

...Comparing the two screenshots/programs there is no standard way of referring to the FSB or bus speed, whichever you want to call it. Also, different people call it different things, so although there may in actuality be a standard way of referring to the speeds, I rarely see the terms used the same way consistently.

Now, isn't that the truth!! In any event, the CPU is operating at 1100MHz, far below it's "rated" speed.

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