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Answer» I own a laptop with a ppga478 socket, the current cpu is a Celeron 2.16 Ghz . I am looking to upgrade the cpu so it will work a little better. Short of replacing the laptop, the best upgrade you could possibly make to it would be to get a SSD (Solid State Drive) however if you need CPU power your best option would be to sell the machine and buy a new one. That laptop likely has an ATA100 controller and not SATA and so an SSD is probably not available for it. That laptop probably came with Windows Me or Windows XP Home on a 5400 RPM 40GB HDD Also I was GOING to upgrade a Celeron M 1.6Ghz laptop to a Pentium M and before buying the CPU I looked into benchmark results and realized that its going to be a waste of time and money. Would the Pentium M run better, yes as long as it can stay cool, however the performance gain which doesnt compete to even the lowest processing power of modern laptops, it made more sense to just leave the laptop alone and use a newer laptop. One way to gain speed with an old Celeron laptop would be if its not to be used for gaming and mainly just web surfing and e-mail would be to do away with Windows XP etc and install say Linux Mint to it. It would be more secure with latest version of Linux Mint, and web surfing will all work for flash games, videos on youtube etc, and you can still use it for e-mail and office apps through Libre Office. If you have less than 1GB of RAM though I would go with a Light Weight Linux like Xfce which is intended for lesser processing power systems and lesser RAM. http://www.linuxmint.com/ Another way to boost performance if this system is not to be used for banking and buying stuff over the web would be to rebuild it clean. I have seen computers speed up as much as 50% by cleaning out the clutter and malware that may have been picked up over the years that waste processing power. Lastly if wanting to stick with Windows and wanting it to run faster, i have observed where Win XP SP2 runs better than Win XP SP3 fully patched. SP2 uses less system RAM than SP3, and so if you have a system that is starving for memory and becomes laggy, keeping it at SP2 instead of going with SP3 can boost the performance. I had to do this with a Dell Pentium III 600Mhz with 384MB RAM. SP2 the system had about 160MB of free RAM, but with SP3 the free memory was only like 40MB and Windows would lag since the patches caused the OS to process more work of the CPU. Quote from: DaveLembke on JANUARY 08, 2015, 11:02:34 AM That laptop likely has an ATA100 controller and not SATA and so an SSD is probably not available for it. That laptop probably came with Windows Me or Windows XP Home on a 5400 RPM 40GB HDDCheck the link they posted, it's a modern Windows 8 machine... Quote from: DaveLembke on January 08, 2015, 11:02:34 AM That laptop likely has an ATA100 controller and not SATA and so an SSD is probably not available for it. That laptop probably came with Windows Me or Windows XP Home on a 5400 RPM 40GB HDDNo need to speak in terms of what is likely or probable- given they provided a link to the system... Though addressing it in terms of hardware is one thing, another thought is that if your system is slow or not performing well it may be an issue of software. A system not dutifully maintained can suffer from excessive background applications and most problematic uninstalled add-ons can leave behind remnants that confuse the system. (eg a program that registers a shell extension to add items to the context menu might not unregister itself and thus Windows Explorer is trying to find it every single time you right click). All that is true...what's also true is he cannot upgrade the CPU on that PC... Which was the original query... Quote from: patio on January 08, 2015, 04:21:09 PM All that is true...what's also true is he cannot upgrade the CPU on that PC...I tend to disagree that the aim is to simply answer questions, especially when they make clear what their purpose is. In the original post they said they wanted to upgrade toe CPU so it will work better. Yes. The CPU is non-upgradable. Does that mean that we just say "no you cannot upgrade that CPU" and move on? Is suggesting additional ways to improve performance that doesn't involve replacing the CPU somehow off-topic?I never stated that at all...in fact i stated everything you said was true... Relax.Thank you for the reply's everyone. I am just using this laptop as I build my own desktop. It stinks I cant upgrade the cpu to something better but whatever, I will have a way better desktop in a few months. Can I at least upgrade the ram or add a SSD? Quote No need to speak in terms of what is likely or probable- given they provided a link to the system... I have been known to follow information stated without following links. Based on the statement of the Quote I own a laptop with a ppga478 socket, the current cpu is a Celeron 2.16 Ghz I assumed we were talking about a 10+ year old laptop. I didnt know that Intel continued use of this ppga478 for this CPU here: http://ark.intel.com/products/36681/Intel-Celeron-Processor-585-1M-Cache-2_16-GHz-667-MHz-FSB Lesson learned to follow links provided In this case a SSD upgrade is possible, but it may be pretty involved trying to swap out the HDD with a SSD if there is no panel to get easy access to the drive compartment. Many of the newer laptops lack this easy access panel and so its usually a matter of carefully disassembling the laptop and taking note as to which screws go where etc. With these laptops there is a greater risk of complications since it quickly can turn into brain surgery for some people who never opened a laptop up with ability to put it back together again without problems. Not finding any info for this laptop stating maximum memory supported. Many of these low cost laptops are sold in which the maximum memory is 4GB. I bought an ASUS for $249.99 that I knew before purchase was only going to take a maximum of 4GB of RAM, and I am fine with it. I ended up downgrading it to Windows 7 64-bit because of complications with 8. It runs fine for what it is, but its not a gaming laptop by far. Here is the ASUS that I have, also a Celeron, but a good cheap laptop: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834231360 Quote from: DaveLembke on January 09, 2015, 07:08:07 AM In this case a SSD upgrade is possible, but it may be pretty involved trying to swap out the HDD with a SSD if there is no panel to get easy access to the drive compartment. Many of the newer laptops lack this easy access panel and so its usually a matter of carefully disassembling the laptop and taking note as to which screws go where etc. With these laptops there is a greater risk of complications since it quickly can turn into brain surgery for some people who never opened a laptop up with ability to put it back together again without problems.Very true. I don't have a newer laptop myself but I've heard that some models have pretty RIDICULOUS ways to access the hard drive. As a tangent, I used to think my ancient Toshiba 440CDX had the most difficult to access hard drive. I owned the system for 10 years before I found the HDD compartment. It had a covering that matched up wit hthe front bezel that I didn't even know was removable until it managed to fall off. (I subsequently replaced the CD-ROM and HDD of that machine, installed Windows and Drivers, and put it back in a closet, because apparently that is how I roll.) Quote Not finding any info for this laptop stating maximum memory supported. Many of these low cost laptops are sold in which the maximum memory is 4GB. I bought an ASUS for $249.99 that I knew before purchase was only going to take a maximum of 4GB of RAM, and I am fine with it. I ended up downgrading it to Windows 7 64-bit because of complications with 8. It runs fine for what it is, but its not a gaming laptop by far. It's pretty amazing how cheap a reasonably powerful system is. It might not work well for an enthusiast or hobbyist, but it will be enough for facebook and most tasks like word processing your average person might want to try. I'm still convinced that the slowness the OP is experiencing that would lead to the QUESTION of replacing the CPU is likely something that can be resolved with software (or rather, removing software), because looking at the specs of the System in Question, it's very similar to my own laptop purchased in 2008 (2Ghz Dual Core, 4GB RAM, Intel Graphics) Which I can run reasonably well with Windows 8.1. I do have performance issues with Visual Studio and Resharper, but both of those are extremely heavy and I'm using the latest versions- otherwise, it's workable and it's great for browsing and youtube. Main difference would be the Celeron, but I'd expect it is a later generation than my T3200. Thinking about it further, however, I recall my laptop being unusably slow with the factory image, since it came with so much preinstalled garbage. And at such a low price point I'm apt to suspect they subsidize the cost with even more software contracts, so it may be reasonable to use Add/Remove Programs to try to cut out pre-installed software that isn't needed. Here is the cpu http://ark.intel.com/products/81071/Intel-Celeron-Processor-N2830-1M-Cache-up-to-2_41-GHz?q=n2830 which is a socket 1170 not 478 and it is soldered on. Here is the laptop http://www.asus.com/ca-en/Notebooks_Ultrabooks/X553MA/overview/ Hope the info helps you decide how to upgrade . |
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