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Answer» Hello I am completely new when it comes to computers, I have only own one computer in my life, and its an alienware m15x laptop ( i love it). Lately ive been thinking and i should get a desktop later in the future. SO after hitting up craigslist and looking on other websites, ive decided to just build my own, so i can get a deeper UNDERSTANDING of how a computer works. My brother directed me to new egg, and the DIY section. Now i understand that a good graphics card isnt the only thing you need. Now i was looking at a DIY combo and I looked at the mother board, which is this (http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3412#sp), now my questions are posted with my analysis, then the question: 1. Ok the MOTHERBOARD says it can support AM3 Processors, like AMD Phenom™ II processor/ AMD Athlon™ II processor. But the AMD 880G chipset says it compatible with AMD Athlon™, AMD Athlon™ II, AMD Phenom™, AMD Phenom™ II processors. Is that the same thing? and is it dual core or quad core that it can have? and how do i find what speeds are available. 2. On a related note, the DIY combo comes with this CPU (AMD FX-4100 Zambezi 3.6GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor FD4100WMGUSBX), now its AMD but not Phenom or Athlon, but it is AM3. Is AM3 what determines if i can put it in the motherboard? Now the i dont know if the questions are understandable, but I am really interested in successfully understanding the build of the computer. One those questions are answered I may ask more. And I am extremely grateful to those who take the time to help me. In my opinion the best advice one can give you at this stage is =as precisely as you can after thoughtful consideration define what your current needs from the computer are.In other words what do you want to use it for? Also give some consideration as to what you may want to be able to do with it in the next 2 or so years. I know those questions at this point given your newness to the technology may be difficult but take some time and be honest with yourself.Once you have done that then come back and define your desires in a computer and you will get advice that addresses those desires.truenorth Quote from: truenorth on June 15, 2012, 06:21:51 PM In my opinion the best advice one can give you at this stage is =as precisely as you can after thoughtful consideration define what your current needs from the computer are.In other words what do you want to use it for? Also give some consideration as to what you may want to be able to do with it in the next 2 or so years. I know those questions at this point given your newness to the technology may be difficult but take some time and be honest with yourself.Once you have done that then come back and define your desires in a computer and you will get advice that addresses those desires.truenorth Well really, I would like a computer I can use for gaming for the next 2 years, while i save money for parts and considering the fact that I would like to upgrade the computer when I feel the need. This originally set in when I learned from Alienware that my M15x cannot receive any more GPU upgrades. I dont want a high end computer with all the goodies. I have already found the GPU I want and for a good price, but lets keep in mind i plan on buying a DIY combo, this being that I would like to learn more about the parts needed to make a computer operate. So my previous questions are from what the combo i have decided to look at has included (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.966163). My desire is to simply learn.... whats parts go TOGETHER, and why? I have no problem doing my research in fact i have been researching for a week now, but I have no one to guide me, so Ive decided to use this forum. Is that clear?Hi urban3rd I sympathize with you because I have also tried to get a deeper understanding of how computers work by assembling my own computer. My first and only try has been with an Intel based system and though I feel I've learned a lot, my hunger for knowledge has not been satisfied and I'm currently working on assembling my second Intel based system. Would you mind letting us know why have you chosen an AMD based system for your first build? Quote from: urban3rd on June 15, 2012, 06:11:21 PM 1. Ok the Motherboard says it can support AM3 Processors, like AMD Phenom™ II processor/ AMD Athlon™ II processor. But the AMD 880G chipset says it compatible with AMD Athlon™, AMD Athlon™ II, AMD Phenom™, AMD Phenom™ II processors. Is that the same thing? and is it dual core or quad core that it can have? and how do i find what speeds are available. 2. On a related note, the DIY combo comes with this CPU (AMD FX-4100 Zambezi 3.6GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor FD4100WMGUSBX), now its AMD but not Phenom or Athlon, but it is AM3. Is AM3 what determines if i can put it in the motherboard? The motherboards from large brands (ASUS, Gigabyte, ASRock, MSI, etc) will have a CPU support list posted on the page. For your board it is on the right hand side as a grey button which takes you here: http://www.gigabyte.com/support-downloads/cpu-support-popup.aspx?pid=3412 Obviously, your CPU in your kit is not officially supported on this board. Shame on Newegg, Reading through the feedback TAB shows many people unable to boot with this board because they needed to update the BIOS before it would recognize the processor, which means if you don't have an older AM3 CPU to get the board to POST, you will be unable to do anything with it. This combo kit will be better anyhow http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.956692 This is the new generation of AMD APU's which have GPU's built into the CPU die. This means even without a discrete graphics card, you still get low/midrange graphics performance out of it, and if you get a Radeon card somewhere in the future, you are able to X-fire the onboard GPU with your new card to get even better graphics performance out of it. Also the CPU supplied with this kit is on the supported list EDIT: In fact that appears to be a very impressive board. I'll always prefer ASUS but that is just my preference

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Hello I am completely new when it comes to computers, I have only own one computer in my life, and its an alienware m15x laptop ( i love it). Lately ive been thinking and i should get a desktop later in the future. SO after hitting up craigslist and looking on other websites, ive decided to just build my own, so i can get a deeper UNDERSTANDING of how a computer works. My brother directed me to new egg, and the DIY section. Now i understand that a good graphics card isnt the only thing you need. Now i was looking at a DIY combo and I looked at the mother board, which is this (http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3412#sp), now my questions are posted with my analysis, then the question:
1. Ok the MOTHERBOARD says it can support AM3 Processors, like AMD Phenom™ II processor/ AMD Athlon™ II processor. But the AMD 880G chipset says it compatible with AMD Athlon™, AMD Athlon™ II, AMD Phenom™, AMD Phenom™ II processors. Is that the same thing? and is it dual core or quad core that it can have? and how do i find what speeds are available.
2. On a related note, the DIY combo comes with this CPU (AMD FX-4100 Zambezi 3.6GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor FD4100WMGUSBX), now its AMD but not Phenom or Athlon, but it is AM3. Is AM3 what determines if i can put it in the motherboard?

Now the i dont know if the questions are understandable, but I am really interested in successfully understanding the build of the computer. One those questions are answered I may ask more. And I am extremely grateful to those who take the time to help me. In my opinion the best advice one can give you at this stage is =as precisely as you can after thoughtful consideration define what your current needs from the computer are.In other words what do you want to use it for? Also give some consideration as to what you may want to be able to do with it in the next 2 or so years. I know those questions at this point given your newness to the technology may be difficult but take some time and be honest with yourself.Once you have done that then come back and define your desires in a computer and you will get advice that addresses those desires.truenorth Quote from: truenorth on June 15, 2012, 06:21:51 PM

In my opinion the best advice one can give you at this stage is =as precisely as you can after thoughtful consideration define what your current needs from the computer are.In other words what do you want to use it for? Also give some consideration as to what you may want to be able to do with it in the next 2 or so years. I know those questions at this point given your newness to the technology may be difficult but take some time and be honest with yourself.Once you have done that then come back and define your desires in a computer and you will get advice that addresses those desires.truenorth

Well really, I would like a computer I can use for gaming for the next 2 years, while i save money for parts and considering the fact that I would like to upgrade the computer when I feel the need. This originally set in when I learned from Alienware that my M15x cannot receive any more GPU upgrades. I dont want a high end computer with all the goodies. I have already found the GPU I want and for a good price, but lets keep in mind i plan on buying a DIY combo, this being that I would like to learn more about the parts needed to make a computer operate. So my previous questions are from what the combo i have decided to look at has included (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.966163). My desire is to simply learn.... whats parts go TOGETHER, and why? I have no problem doing my research in fact i have been researching for a week now, but I have no one to guide me, so Ive decided to use this forum. Is that clear?Hi urban3rd
I sympathize with you because I have also tried to get a deeper understanding of how computers work by assembling my own computer.
My first and only try has been with an Intel based system and though I feel I've learned a lot, my hunger for knowledge has not been satisfied and I'm currently working on assembling my second Intel based system.

Would you mind letting us know why have you chosen an AMD based system for your first build? Quote from: urban3rd on June 15, 2012, 06:11:21 PM

1. Ok the Motherboard says it can support AM3 Processors, like AMD Phenom™ II processor/ AMD Athlon™ II processor. But the AMD 880G chipset says it compatible with AMD Athlon™, AMD Athlon™ II, AMD Phenom™, AMD Phenom™ II processors. Is that the same thing? and is it dual core or quad core that it can have? and how do i find what speeds are available.
2. On a related note, the DIY combo comes with this CPU (AMD FX-4100 Zambezi 3.6GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor FD4100WMGUSBX), now its AMD but not Phenom or Athlon, but it is AM3. Is AM3 what determines if i can put it in the motherboard?

The motherboards from large brands (ASUS, Gigabyte, ASRock, MSI, etc) will have a CPU support list posted on the page. For your board it is on the right hand side as a grey button which takes you here:
http://www.gigabyte.com/support-downloads/cpu-support-popup.aspx?pid=3412
Obviously, your CPU in your kit is not officially supported on this board. Shame on Newegg, Reading through the feedback TAB shows many people unable to boot with this board because they needed to update the BIOS before it would recognize the processor, which means if you don't have an older AM3 CPU to get the board to POST, you will be unable to do anything with it.

This combo kit will be better anyhow http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.956692
This is the new generation of AMD APU's which have GPU's built into the CPU die. This means even without a discrete graphics card, you still get low/midrange graphics performance out of it, and if you get a Radeon card somewhere in the future, you are able to X-fire the onboard GPU with your new card to get even better graphics performance out of it.

Also the CPU supplied with this kit is on the supported list

EDIT: In fact that appears to be a very impressive board. I'll always prefer ASUS but that is just my preference

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