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Answer» Hello So i'm starting to need a new pc and since it has been some YEARS since ive assembled a PC on my own ive decided to do so this time I've come up with a little build but as you can see im not done with it yet, it isnt a super extremist computer but it'll do what i will need it for The Build GPU: Zotac GeForce GTX 760 AMP Edition or MSI NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760 CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K Processor 3.5 GHz HSF: H80i? SSD: HyperX 120GB SATA3 3K Gaming SSD Drive RAM: Kingston HyperX Beast 16 GB Kit Case: NZXT. H440 PSU: ? Mobo: MSI Z87-G43 GAMING Question 1) Does anyone know a way to test if your build will fit in your case? Question 2) As you can probably see im not quite sure what PSU and HSF to buy, any suggestions? im on a little budget so will probably not buy a 1000W PSU and i was thinking a Corsair H80i but im not sure Question 3) Zotac GeForce GTX 760 AMP Edition or MSI NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760?Few points: MSI isn't a great brand so I would swap that motheboard for one from Gigabyte or ASUS Although Z87 technically supports that CPU, you would be best to get Z97 to be sure that it will be supported out of the box I'd look at a better SSD from the likes of Crucial, Samsung, Intel or Plextor - Kingston drives aren't great You won't need a crazy high wattage PSU, 550w is more than ENOUGH. Just focus on getting a good quality unit from a brand like XFX, Seasonic, Corsair, Superflower.etc. Do not buy a 1000 watt PSU. You will never need it. Get a brand name 500 or 600 watt unit. At most, 700 watt. This is not about bigger is better. Because A 1000 watt PSU for home use is not legal in some areas a violates insurance companies rules. Eve if t a PSU is able to handle 1000 watts, it must have over current limits to prevent fie. So labeling a unit as 1000 watts is dishonest. Unless it is licensed for special industrial use. Like in a factory. Quote from: Geek-9pm on November 02, 2014, 08:06:19 AM Do not buy a 1000 watt PSU. You will never need it. Get a brand name 500 or 600 watt unit. At most, 700 watt. This is not about bigger is better. Because A 1000 watt PSU for home use is not legal in some areas a violates insurance companies rules. Eve if t a PSU is able to handle 1000 watts, it must have over current limits to prevent fie. So labeling a unit as 1000 watts is dishonest. Unless it is licensed for special industrial use. Like in a factory. Yeah i also pointed out that i wouldnt do that but was more thinking if you had any brands you could recommend Quote from: camerongray on November 02, 2014, 07:58:22 AM Few points: MSI isn't a great brand so I would swap that motheboard for one from Gigabyte or ASUS Although Z87 technically supports that CPU, you would be best to get Z97 to be sure that it will be supported out of the box I'd look at a better SSD from the likes of Crucial, Samsung, Intel or Plextor - Kingston drives aren't great You won't need a crazy high wattage PSU, 550w is more than enough. Just focus on getting a good quality unit from a brand like XFX, Seasonic, Corsair, Superflower.etc. ok thx any asus Z97 motherboard you could recommend? (in same PRICE range as MSI Z87-G43 GAMING)For brands I would go for: Corsair (Not the CX or VS line) XFX Seasonic Superflower Antec There are also some other brands that have PSUs made by Seasonic and Superflower such as EVGA (where some of their units are superflower made) however you need to take care to make sure you are getting one of the ones from a good OEM. Quote from: unkn0wn on November 02, 2014, 08:14:02 AM ok thx any asus Z97 motherboard you could recommend? (in same price range as MSI Z87-G43 GAMING) Something like the ASUS Z97-A would be fine. Quote from: Geek-9pm on November 02, 2014, 08:06:19 AM Because A 1000 watt PSU for home use is not legal in some areas a violates insurance companies rules. And at FIRST I thought you had posted something useful, what utter nonsense! While on a single video card system, yes, 1000w is overkill it is certainly not illegal, that is just totally made up nonsense. How can a 1000w PC PSU be illegal yet kitchen appliances rated at several kw be fine? Regardless of wattage a cheap PSU is dangerous and a good one is safe - A 500w cheapo PSU is going to be way more dangerous than a good 1200w one.So ive pretty much figured out everything, except if anyone know an easy way of figuring out if your components will fit in your case Quote from: unkn0wn on November 02, 2014, 08:48:48 AM So ive pretty much figured out everything, except if anyone know an easy way of figuring out if your components will fit in your case thanks figured it out now topic solved OP did not say he was going to use more that one high power GPU. He may wish to contact is insurance company to see if the PSU he wants is legal in his area and not in violation of his insurance contract. Most do not allow industrial equipment for household use. Wow.... Quote from: patio on November 02, 2014, 09:38:22 AM Wow.... Here is some background ink for for your reading pleasure. Power Supplies DO NOT meet guidelines Just to clarify here for anyone reading this thread, Geek-9pm is talking nonsense. There is no legal/insurance issues with getting a high wattage power supply. However, for the average system very high wattage power supplies are overkill. Quote from: Geek-9pm on November 02, 2014, 09:29:37 AM OP did not say he was going to use more that one high power GPU. I know that, that's why I said they only need a 550w unit, nowhere did I say to get a 1000w unit, in fact I discouraged it. Quote from: Geek-9pm on November 02, 2014, 09:29:37 AM Most do not allow industrial equipment for household use. (1) Find an example of an insurance company that sets limits on computer PSUs (2) Since when was a 1000w+ PSU considered industrial? PCs with multiple video cards can require high wattage PSUs, they are totally targeted at consumers with fancy looks, quiet fan modes, USB interface to monitoring software.etc.You can't just draw a line saying "Power supplies over some arbitrary wattage are industrial". Quote from: Geek-9pm on November 02, 2014, 10:00:41 AM Here is some background ink for for your reading pleasure. Power Supplies DO NOT meet guidelines Totally irrelevant. That link is talking about a generic PSU not meeting regulations, this is the same for many cheap power supplies. It has NOTHING to do with their wattage or if they are considered industrial. It is to do with them being cheap, poor quality units that are made for the lowest possible price.I've seen enuff... Topic Closed.

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Hello
So i'm starting to need a new pc and since it has been some YEARS since ive assembled a PC on my own ive decided to do so this time
I've come up with a little build but as you can see im not done with it yet, it isnt a super extremist computer but it'll do what i will need it for

The Build
GPU: Zotac GeForce GTX 760 AMP Edition
or MSI NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K Processor 3.5 GHz
HSF: H80i?
SSD: HyperX 120GB SATA3 3K Gaming SSD Drive
RAM: Kingston HyperX Beast 16 GB Kit
Case: NZXT. H440
PSU: ?
Mobo: MSI Z87-G43 GAMING

Question 1) Does anyone know a way to test if your build will fit in your case?
Question 2) As you can probably see im not quite sure what PSU and HSF to buy, any suggestions?
im on a little budget so will probably not buy a 1000W PSU and i was thinking a Corsair H80i
but im not sure
Question 3) Zotac GeForce GTX 760 AMP Edition or MSI NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760?Few points:

MSI isn't a great brand so I would swap that motheboard for one from Gigabyte or ASUS
Although Z87 technically supports that CPU, you would be best to get Z97 to be sure that it will be supported out of the box
I'd look at a better SSD from the likes of Crucial, Samsung, Intel or Plextor - Kingston drives aren't great
You won't need a crazy high wattage PSU, 550w is more than ENOUGH. Just focus on getting a good quality unit from a brand like XFX, Seasonic, Corsair, Superflower.etc.

Do not buy a 1000 watt PSU. You will never need it.
Get a brand name 500 or 600 watt unit. At most, 700 watt.
This is not about bigger is better. Because A 1000 watt PSU for home use is not legal in some areas a violates insurance companies rules.
Eve if t a PSU is able to handle 1000 watts, it must have over current limits to prevent fie. So labeling a unit as 1000 watts is dishonest. Unless it is licensed for special industrial use. Like in a factory.

Quote from: Geek-9pm on November 02, 2014, 08:06:19 AM

Do not buy a 1000 watt PSU. You will never need it.
Get a brand name 500 or 600 watt unit. At most, 700 watt.
This is not about bigger is better. Because A 1000 watt PSU for home use is not legal in some areas a violates insurance companies rules.
Eve if t a PSU is able to handle 1000 watts, it must have over current limits to prevent fie. So labeling a unit as 1000 watts is dishonest. Unless it is licensed for special industrial use. Like in a factory.

Yeah i also pointed out that i wouldnt do that but was more thinking if you had any brands you could recommend Quote from: camerongray on November 02, 2014, 07:58:22 AM

Few points:

MSI isn't a great brand so I would swap that motheboard for one from Gigabyte or ASUS
Although Z87 technically supports that CPU, you would be best to get Z97 to be sure that it will be supported out of the box
I'd look at a better SSD from the likes of Crucial, Samsung, Intel or Plextor - Kingston drives aren't great
You won't need a crazy high wattage PSU, 550w is more than enough. Just focus on getting a good quality unit from a brand like XFX, Seasonic, Corsair, Superflower.etc.

ok thx any asus Z97 motherboard you could recommend? (in same PRICE range as MSI Z87-G43 GAMING)For brands I would go for:

Corsair (Not the CX or VS line)
XFX
Seasonic
Superflower
Antec

There are also some other brands that have PSUs made by Seasonic and Superflower such as EVGA (where some of their units are superflower made) however you need to take care to make sure you are getting one of the ones from a good OEM.

Quote from: unkn0wn on November 02, 2014, 08:14:02 AM

ok thx any asus Z97 motherboard you could recommend? (in same price range as MSI Z87-G43 GAMING)

Something like the ASUS Z97-A would be fine.

Quote from: Geek-9pm on November 02, 2014, 08:06:19 AM

Because A 1000 watt PSU for home use is not legal in some areas a violates insurance companies rules.

And at FIRST I thought you had posted something useful, what utter nonsense! While on a single video card system, yes, 1000w is overkill it is certainly not illegal, that is just totally made up nonsense. How can a 1000w PC PSU be illegal yet kitchen appliances rated at several kw be fine? Regardless of wattage a cheap PSU is dangerous and a good one is safe - A 500w cheapo PSU is going to be way more dangerous than a good 1200w one.So ive pretty much figured out everything, except if anyone know an easy way of figuring out if your components will fit in your case Quote from: unkn0wn on November 02, 2014, 08:48:48 AM

So ive pretty much figured out everything, except if anyone know an easy way of figuring out if your components will fit in your case

thanks figured it out now
topic solved OP did not say he was going to use more that one high power GPU.
He may wish to contact is insurance company to see if the PSU he wants is legal in his area and not in violation of his insurance contract. Most do not allow industrial equipment for household use.

Wow.... Quote from: patio on November 02, 2014, 09:38:22 AM

Wow....

Here is some background ink for for your reading pleasure.
Power Supplies DO NOT meet guidelines

Just to clarify here for anyone reading this thread, Geek-9pm is talking nonsense. There is no legal/insurance issues with getting a high wattage power supply. However, for the average system very high wattage power supplies are overkill.

Quote from: Geek-9pm on November 02, 2014, 09:29:37 AM

OP did not say he was going to use more that one high power GPU.

I know that, that's why I said they only need a 550w unit, nowhere did I say to get a 1000w unit, in fact I discouraged it.

Quote from: Geek-9pm on November 02, 2014, 09:29:37 AM

Most do not allow industrial equipment for household use.

(1) Find an example of an insurance company that sets limits on computer PSUs
(2) Since when was a 1000w+ PSU considered industrial? PCs with multiple video cards can require high wattage PSUs, they are totally targeted at consumers with fancy looks, quiet fan modes, USB interface to monitoring software.etc.You can't just draw a line saying "Power supplies over some arbitrary wattage are industrial".

Quote from: Geek-9pm on November 02, 2014, 10:00:41 AM

Here is some background ink for for your reading pleasure.
Power Supplies DO NOT meet guidelines

Totally irrelevant. That link is talking about a generic PSU not meeting regulations, this is the same for many cheap power supplies. It has NOTHING to do with their wattage or if they are considered industrial. It is to do with them being cheap, poor quality units that are made for the lowest possible price.I've seen enuff...

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