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Solve : Unable to access configuration of second router.?

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Hello all, as you'll see from my post count/history, I'm one of those people who only comes here in the most dire of circumstances. My latest problem is described below. I've never been fond of networking, with its foibles and complexities. I get the feeling that this is a topic that has sprung up before on these forums, found a couple of similar threads but wasn't satisfied with the conclusions (they didn't work).

My setup is as follows; I have a primary router (an old Belkin F5D7230-4, bless it, still going strong) acting as gateway in my living room and connected to my ADSL, with an ethernet lead trailing upstairs connected to a Linksys WAG354g, which then serves as a wired access point upstairs.
I can access the Belkin just fine, from the PC I'm using now which is connected to the Linksys, using the standard 192.168.2.1; however the Linksys configuration page proves inaccessible from any browser using any number of IP addresses I've googled (192.168.1.1 seems to be the most widely known).

I have attempted to remedy this by Googling for the past hour or so, hitting up on the usual solutions such as ipconfig (which reports the Belkin directly) and netstat -n, which GAVE such a bewildering list of numbers I almost immediately gave up; I did though unplug the Belkin from the back of the Linksys and run netstat -n again, and the only number to remain was LOCALHOST (There's no place like 127.0.0.1).


I'm only trying to access the Linksys to turn off the wireless, which some [CENSORED] has been using with a Blackberry, it seems (I've now filtered the MAC from accessing my line, but I'd still like to disable the wireless to avoid this problem in the future). Right now it's seeming like it will be easier to open up the box and just rip the *censored* wireless card out.


One question, now I think about it; with my Belkin reporting the Blackberry in its DHCP client list, does this mean it is simply reporting a connection that has been made through the unprotected Linksys, or has this Blackberry *censored* been using my (passworded) Belkin directly?
Oh, also, the Linksys rather annoyingly does not appear on the Belkin's DHCP clients. Had it simply DONE so, this would be much easier for me.Here's some general information about using two routers in a home network. Yes, you would like to have a very specific answer, but there R. some things you have to consider before trying a specific solution.
In-home networking the common practice is to have all devices in what is called the same subnet. Here is a general example:
192.168.1.1
192.168.1.5
192.168.1.12
192.168.1.13
192.168.1.254
all these addresses lie in the range of 0 to 255 of that last oclet, and are within the range of addresses that could be used on a typical home network system. Some commercial enterprise networks may have a larger base range to allow more devices on a local network. Keep in mind,  these are local IP addresses, not IP addresses that would on the Internet.
To access any device on the local network that can possibly be accessed through your browser, the device must have a unique IP address. Unfortunately, some routers use default address that is not in the same block of addresses that has been assigned by the DHCP authority of the local network. To make it more complicated, many routers like to use the same address, even routers made by different companies like us to use the same address. By default, each router thinks it's the boss, metaphorically speaking of course.
The way most people resolve this issue is by studying the documentation that comes with the router. Or else you can do this* right below.
Disconnect the router from the network, disconnect your desktop PC from the network, and the cable, I mean ethernet cable, from your computer to the router. Do not use the WAN. Use one of the LA N. reset your computer, reset the router. Look on the bottom of the router that should be some information about the USER name or the administrator name and password to visit off abuse information about the default IP address. Now using a toothpick or a paperclip gently press on the button is found just inside the little hole that is labeled reset. It may take about 20 seconds and then you'll see the lights on the router all turn on and hold then release the reset button. At this point you should be able to bring up your browser and put in the IP address. If your browser is giving you some trouble you'll need to set the start-up p page to a blank page. Any attempt of the browser to try and get to a website will just foul things up at this point. If necessary, restart the browser and try again. Also, you may want to do a quick reset of the router. A a quick reset means just taking off the power for a few seconds and turning it back on. This is not the same thing as using the hidden reset button. Also,  you may have to force your browser to clear history and things like that eventually you'll get the browser to address the router at the default address. And when you get to that point you will be asked for the user name and password. On some systems it is simply ADMIN in lower case and PASSWORD in lower case. (U upper case is here to get attention.)
But to get into the router you can make whatever settings you need. This is going to be the second or third router in the system, you'll have to GIVE it some address other than the vault address used by the main router. Here's one possibility that I like:
192.168.1.20
In any case, they can address that works in your system. And remember, once you click the button that says okay or apply, you will lose the connection to the router because you're on the wrong address now. Enter the new address in the address are the browser and you should be able to get to the device at the new address. Once you get this far, you can disconnect things and put the router or you want to work . From now on you'll be able to access the router using that address. I don't know of any shortcuts to do this easier. Once it's done, you shouldn't have to do it again for a long time.

*Typical, but there are other methods. An alternate is to use a commercial program to set you you local network for you. Details on request.

Thanks for your reply. I followed your suggestion and was able to access the Linksys, disable the wireless, and brand it with a new IP. However I am still unable to access it while it is plugged into the Belkin.

Regardless, I'm going to mark this solved, as I achieved what I set out to do (disable the wireless) and if I ever have to access the Linksys again, I know what steps to take.

Thanks again :)

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