Solve : Acer Aspire R14 SSD upgrade clone?

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Answer» Aspire R5-471T-52EE Model: N15P6 BIOS: V1.03 CPU: Intel Core i5 6200U 2.3GHz SSD: SSD M.2 2280 256GB KIngston RBU-SNS8152S3-256GF RAM: 8GB onboard Want to upgrade to 512GB Sandisk X400 SD8SN8U-512G-1122, but want to clone the the whole disc so that all original hidden partitions are migrated too. Doing it with an M.2-USB adapter. Tried with AOMEI Backupper 3.2 unsuccessfully. The system doesn't see a bootable drive at startup. By the way, when connected to a different system via the same adapter, unlike the original 256GB one, Windows explorer as well as Disc Management show all of the partitions at 512GB, but for the original one Disc Management only, Win Explorer shows just one partition. That's another indicator that something is going wrong while cloning. Acronis Disc Director 12 doesn't allow cloning it, guess because of the running OS on it. Please help.A stand alone drive clone would work best for this. Here is a list of some: https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=clone+docking+station&N=-1&isNodeId=1 I have one of these and it works perfect. Just need to be sure to insert the master drive that your copying from in the one slot and then the drive to take the bit for bit image to the other slot. Run the clone function and give it time to clone the master drive to the bare drive. After you clone the partitions will be the same size as the master drive that you cloned from. Next step is to then resize the partitions that you want larger or make another partition in the unused portion of the drive to get your full capacity of use out of the drive. The clone docking station I have is a stand alone unit. It doesnt require a computer to close the drive. the drive is cloned by the device alone. Mine has status LEDs with progress bar to show 25%, 50%, 75%, and 100% clone complete as indicators to see how far along it is vs just a blinky light.Thanks. Any other solutions that don't require Docking station?It likely doesn't show bootable because of the USB adapter...can't you connect it internally ? ? I'd also give Easus ToDo clone a try...there's still a Free Home version i believe.. If you want all partitions intact as is then you want to select sector by sector clone...slower but more accurate. The fact Aeomei is mis-reporting it is slightly troubling...i have seen some so-so reviews on it so i never bothered testing it myself. Also suprised Acronis wouldn't handle it...True Image is the Paid app i use for cloning. It needs to be ran from a bootable CD/DVD...not from inside Windows. Quote It likely doesn't show bootable because of the USB adapter...can't you connect it internally ? ? They have a laptop so only one SATA slot for a single drive I am thinking. So if they had a desktop computer to act as a means to clone direct one drive to the other over SATA using Clonezilla, where you only have the master drive and the bare drive installed and you target the master drive to copy to the bare drive. Then install the bare drive that now has the image of the master into the laptop. I havent had luck at all with using USB to SATA devices to clone drive to drive bit for bit. So I can only suggest what I know from experience works. In my attempts at using USB to SATA as a means to clone I have had where it will go through the process and not be a bootable drive or it fails or doesnt detect the drive to clone to because the USB to SATA driver isnt there to support it. *Note: In the one time that I cloned a drive over USB that it wasnt bootable, I was able to get it working finally by performing a repair installation after the drive was cloned so that it did eventually work, but it took a lot of fixing to get it to work right. It wasnt as easy as clone and swap drives. The cloned drive had to be repaired as for it wouldnt boot until the installation of Windows from clone was fixed for I am guessing a missing MBR ( Master Boot Record ) and whatever else was broken in the clone process that didnt carry over bit for bit. Looked up to see if eSATA was an option for direct drive access with the drive to clone to attached through eSATA, but according to specs NO eSATA port on side of laptop. If eSATA was available, and you had a means to power the drive, then you could clone from internal SATA to eSATA. https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834315345I've used Macrium Reflect's "partition to Partition Copy" several TIMES to copy OS installs from one drive to another, including when I upgraded from an HDD to an SDD. I've found that using USB- EVEN USB3, seems to clone slower than connecting the drives directly, but it seems to get the job done either way. It's not failed me (yet!)This laptop neither has an additional M.2 internal port, nor does it have a DVD drive. Also in terms of hardware I'm limited down to this M.2-USB adapter. Actually I also have a 2.5" SATA to USB adapter too, but I'm sure this isn't helpful for this mission. Later on today (I guess) I'll try the programs you advised of course, but could you explain the reason the original SSD connected (via adapter) to my desktop computer doesn't show the hidden partitions in Windows explorer?Take ownership of the HDD when connected to the desktop and it should show...that or turn on show hidden files and fokders in Explorer. Again if you do this from the bootdisk you could connect both drives internally on a desktop if you have one with an m2 slot to do the full operation as neither HDD needs to boot...Thanks, My desktop has a 256GB mSATA SSD (OS) and a 1TB HDD (storage and some programs). Show hidden folders is turned on. When I say connect to desktop, I mean the desktop is started from my mSATA SSD and I'm plugging in those laptop original and cloned M.Ts via the M.2 to USB adapter. Doing exactly the same for both, the original 256GB and 512GB after cloning. The original appears as just one partition, Disc management shows 3 partitions (100MB, some ~234GB (not certain, I'm at work now) and 500MB), AOMEI shows 4 (100MB, 16MB (looks like unformatted), some ~234GB and 500MB)the cloned one shows 4 partitions in explorer (that 16MB one is clearly unformatted there), Disc Management and AOMEI.Post a screenshot of Disk management Here's even more. [attachment deleted by admin to conserve space]And more. This time I plugged the original to desktop, created a backup, then plugged the new one and restored it from that backup, still by IOMEI yet. [attachment deleted by admin to conserve space]Hi, Sorry for late reply. As SSDs KEEP record of overall written data, and I don't want to accrue TBs of it, I I'll experiment on another Acer laptop that's HDD vs SSD, details provided below. Once I succeed here I'll do the same on my SSD one, that INITIALLY mentioned. For this task I'm using a SATA to USB adapter. Aspire V5-573P-6896 Model: ZRQ BIOS: V2.13 CPU: Intel Core i5 4200U 1.6 - 2.3GHz HDD: Toshiba MQ01ABF050 Replacement HDD: Samsung HM500JI RAM: 4GB onboard A little progress, but still not perfect. I tried Macrium, EaseUS Tofo Backup and Paragon Migrate. Outcome is the same for all. Unlike AOMEI Backupper, these do clone it in a way that hidden partitions are hidden, system is not. Even Windows starts properly, however, system recovery doesn't work. I'm getting "Your PC/Device needs to be repaired..." after Alt+F10. I'm not a real specialist, but is it possible that something in BIAS matters? Please also see some BIOS screens below. [attachment deleted by admin to conserve space]Resolved. Did a backup of the whole disk image using Macrium Reflect free and recoved the image to the new one, but this time I did that not from the host computer, but from a desctop using the same M.2 to USB adapter. Apparently while doing it from the host computer something is being hold by the system. Regards

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Aspire R5-471T-52EE
Model: N15P6
BIOS: V1.03
CPU: Intel Core i5 6200U 2.3GHz
SSD: SSD M.2 2280 256GB KIngston RBU-SNS8152S3-256GF
RAM: 8GB onboard

Want to upgrade to 512GB Sandisk X400 SD8SN8U-512G-1122, but want to clone the the whole disc so that all original hidden partitions are migrated too. Doing it with an M.2-USB adapter. Tried with AOMEI Backupper 3.2 unsuccessfully. The system doesn't see a bootable drive at startup. By the way, when connected to a different system via the same adapter, unlike the original 256GB one, Windows explorer as well as Disc Management show all of the partitions at 512GB, but for the original one Disc Management only, Win Explorer shows just one partition. That's another indicator that something is going wrong while cloning.
Acronis Disc Director 12 doesn't allow cloning it, guess because of the running OS on it.
Please help.A stand alone drive clone would work best for this.

Here is a list of some: https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=clone+docking+station&N=-1&isNodeId=1

I have one of these and it works perfect. Just need to be sure to insert the master drive that your copying from in the one slot and then the drive to take the bit for bit image to the other slot. Run the clone function and give it time to clone the master drive to the bare drive.

After you clone the partitions will be the same size as the master drive that you cloned from. Next step is to then resize the partitions that you want larger or make another partition in the unused portion of the drive to get your full capacity of use out of the drive.

The clone docking station I have is a stand alone unit. It doesnt require a computer to close the drive. the drive is cloned by the device alone. Mine has status LEDs with progress bar to show 25%, 50%, 75%, and 100% clone complete as indicators to see how far along it is vs just a blinky light.Thanks. Any other solutions that don't require Docking station?It likely doesn't show bootable because of the USB adapter...can't you connect it internally ? ?

I'd also give Easus ToDo clone a try...there's still a Free Home version i believe..
If you want all partitions intact as is then you want to select sector by sector clone...slower but more accurate.

The fact Aeomei is mis-reporting it is slightly troubling...i have seen some so-so reviews on it so i never bothered testing it myself.

Also suprised Acronis wouldn't handle it...True Image is the Paid app i use for cloning. It needs to be ran from a bootable CD/DVD...not from inside Windows. Quote

It likely doesn't show bootable because of the USB adapter...can't you connect it internally ? ?

They have a laptop so only one SATA slot for a single drive I am thinking.

So if they had a desktop computer to act as a means to clone direct one drive to the other over SATA using Clonezilla, where you only have the master drive and the bare drive installed and you target the master drive to copy to the bare drive. Then install the bare drive that now has the image of the master into the laptop.

I havent had luck at all with using USB to SATA devices to clone drive to drive bit for bit. So I can only suggest what I know from experience works. In my attempts at using USB to SATA as a means to clone I have had where it will go through the process and not be a bootable drive or it fails or doesnt detect the drive to clone to because the USB to SATA driver isnt there to support it. *Note: In the one time that I cloned a drive over USB that it wasnt bootable, I was able to get it working finally by performing a repair installation after the drive was cloned so that it did eventually work, but it took a lot of fixing to get it to work right. It wasnt as easy as clone and swap drives. The cloned drive had to be repaired as for it wouldnt boot until the installation of Windows from clone was fixed for I am guessing a missing MBR ( Master Boot Record ) and whatever else was broken in the clone process that didnt carry over bit for bit.

Looked up to see if eSATA was an option for direct drive access with the drive to clone to attached through eSATA, but according to specs NO eSATA port on side of laptop. If eSATA was available, and you had a means to power the drive, then you could clone from internal SATA to eSATA. https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834315345I've used Macrium Reflect's "partition to Partition Copy" several TIMES to copy OS installs from one drive to another, including when I upgraded from an HDD to an SDD.

I've found that using USB- EVEN USB3, seems to clone slower than connecting the drives directly, but it seems to get the job done either way. It's not failed me (yet!)This laptop neither has an additional M.2 internal port, nor does it have a DVD drive. Also in terms of hardware I'm limited down to this M.2-USB adapter. Actually I also have a 2.5" SATA to USB adapter too, but I'm sure this isn't helpful for this mission.
Later on today (I guess) I'll try the programs you advised of course, but could you explain the reason the original SSD connected (via adapter) to my desktop computer doesn't show the hidden partitions in Windows explorer?Take ownership of the HDD when connected to the desktop and it should show...that or turn on show hidden files and fokders in Explorer.

Again if you do this from the bootdisk you could connect both drives internally on a desktop if you have one with an m2 slot to do the full operation as neither HDD needs to boot...Thanks,
My desktop has a 256GB mSATA SSD (OS) and a 1TB HDD (storage and some programs). Show hidden folders is turned on. When I say connect to desktop, I mean the desktop is started from my mSATA SSD and I'm plugging in those laptop original and cloned M.Ts via the M.2 to USB adapter. Doing exactly the same for both, the original 256GB and 512GB after cloning. The original appears as just one partition, Disc management shows 3 partitions (100MB, some ~234GB (not certain, I'm at work now) and 500MB), AOMEI shows 4 (100MB, 16MB (looks like unformatted), some ~234GB and 500MB)the cloned one shows 4 partitions in explorer (that 16MB one is clearly unformatted there), Disc Management and AOMEI.Post a screenshot of Disk management
Here's even more.

[attachment deleted by admin to conserve space]And more. This time I plugged the original to desktop, created a backup, then plugged the new one and restored it from that backup, still by IOMEI yet.

[attachment deleted by admin to conserve space]Hi,
Sorry for late reply.
As SSDs KEEP record of overall written data, and I don't want to accrue TBs of it, I I'll experiment on another Acer laptop that's HDD vs SSD, details provided below. Once I succeed here I'll do the same on my SSD one, that INITIALLY mentioned. For this task I'm using a SATA to USB adapter.

Aspire V5-573P-6896
Model: ZRQ
BIOS: V2.13
CPU: Intel Core i5 4200U 1.6 - 2.3GHz
HDD: Toshiba MQ01ABF050
Replacement HDD: Samsung HM500JI
RAM: 4GB onboard
A little progress, but still not perfect. I tried Macrium, EaseUS Tofo Backup and Paragon Migrate. Outcome is the same for all. Unlike AOMEI Backupper, these do clone it in a way that hidden partitions are hidden, system is not. Even Windows starts properly, however, system recovery doesn't work. I'm getting "Your PC/Device needs to be repaired..." after Alt+F10. I'm not a real specialist, but is it possible that something in BIAS matters? Please also see some BIOS screens below.

[attachment deleted by admin to conserve space]Resolved.
Did a backup of the whole disk image using Macrium Reflect free and recoved the image to the new one, but this time I did that not from the host computer, but from a desctop using the same M.2 to USB adapter. Apparently while doing it from the host computer something is being hold by the system.

Regards

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