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Answer» Published in June, but still news to me. Quote An Internet 100 times as fast-FULL STORY But if the Internet were 100 times faster... I'm quite happy with mine as is, I pay £38 for 50mb/s Not sure what I would do with much more bandwidth, the pic provided is just on an average sometimes I make more than 50mb/s sometimes a little less but as it's fibre optic I get prity much what I pay for, rather than the others that give you a 'up to limit' which in my book is mis-leading as an 'upto 8mb' connection could mean you get a 2mb/s average connection and then when lucky you get 6-7-8mb/s. Optical switches have been in the labs for years, and I'm sure there are a few in real world use, but not many. The real key to faster speeds is getting fiber closer to the home. Back bone speeds have increased steadily over the years, and continue to get faster every year, and have never been the bottle neck the "last mile" has been.I think speed is going to become a major issue in the next few years, especially as COMPANIES move towards providing full scale TV over the net. The only problem of introducing all these new devices is of course the issue of running out of IP addresses.According to Akamai’s Q3 State of the Internet report, the United States’ Internet speed did not qualify for a place in the top 10 list of countries with the fastest Internet in the world, and its average overall speed has actually decreased by 2.4% year-over-year from 2008 to 2009. Read More....I read recently that 2/3 of the United States is still on dial up? That can't be true can it? Quote from: alexwebster on November 04, 2010, 07:52:21 PM I read recently that 2/3 of the United States is still on dial up?I wonder if they are maybe applying that to people with satellite, they need a phone line to connect for uploading traffic. Quote from: alexwebster on November 04, 2010, 07:52:21 PM I read recently that 2/3 of the United States is still on dial up? No that's not true. It's hard to find reliable up to date numbers, but dial up is somewhere between 15% to 20% of internet users in the US. When ever you read about internet speeds, you need to read between the lines. Some people talk about "access" to broadband, not actual users. For the total number of actual broadband users, the US is second only to China. That's a function of population. First, there is no solid definition for the term broadband. At one time ISDN, at 128 kbs, was considered broadband. Today 1 Mbs is considered by most to be the start of broadband, but some DSL providers still advertise some what slower speeds as broadband. A major consideration of broadband speeds and roll outs is the cost per user or home passed. The cost to PROVIDE broadband is a function of the area to cover and population density. South Korea has the fastest average speed of any country. They have a land area of 98,480 sq km and a population density of 500 per sq km. In contrast the US has 9,629,091 sq km and a population density of 32 per sq km. The fewer miles to wire, and a higher population density will reduce the cost per home passed substantially and speed up broadband availability, and generally increase speed because you can get fiber closer to the home for less money. Quote from: rthompson80819 on November 06, 2010, 09:57:44 PM
Your point is well made. Nevertheless, the cost per user can be cut down to even less than the cost of dial-up. Anyplace where electric power is available, Broadband can be deplaned at a very low cost per user. But not for profit. Quote from: Geek-9pm on November 27, 2010, 06:41:53 PM Your point is well made. Nevertheless, the cost per user can be cut down to even less than the cost of dial-up. Anyplace where electric power is available, Broadband can be deplaned at a very low cost per user. But not for profit. I assume you are talking about data or internet over power lines. Companies have been working on that for at least 20 years because power lines are everywhere. However, since power lines are non shielded cables they are a giant antenna and transmits signals in all directions, interfering mostly with low frequency ham radio. No company has been able to overcome this problem so far. Quote I assume you are talking about data or internet over power lines.No. If there are power lines there are poles and right-of-ways already established. The power pole is no more than 500 feet from a house or cabin in most cases. The power poles can bear the WEIGHT of a copper based cable and a wireless transponder. The transponder can service a small community of dozen homes located withing 1200 feet of the power pole where is sits. The issues are are about the commercial interests. Power companies do not like to share there poles with other companies. Yet they are public utilities and must operate in the public interest. It would not be profitable for they ton offer low-level wireless broadband. Or so they n think. They need to rethink there business plan. Hey, am I getting off topic? Rural broadband can not be as fast as Urban service because of the high cost of optical cable. But copper wire and wireless transponders* can outperform conventional copper wire dial-up both in cost and bandwidth. But the deployment of such technology would wipe out the local telephone company. That is the real barrier. Think Skype. * ATT owns this technology. It is NOT the same as cell phone service. Power companies don't like to share pole space, but they are forced to by law, because they are in the public right of way for one, and local communities don't want to see one pole for power, one for phone, and one for cable. I've seen areas like that and it's pretty ugly. Most poles already have power lines, maybe transmission lines at the top, distribution lines further down the pole, cable (sometimes two cable providers with separate lines) and telephone lines, some times with separate trunk and distribution lines. Each line needs to have a certain clearance from the other lines. This usually creates a problem for any additional provider. On some poles there will also be fiber cables for long haul providers. In short, most poles are already crowded. The latest company to attach to a pole is responsible to make sure when they do attach, all clearances are met, including street clearances. Poles come in 5' increments. If the new company only needs one additional foot and the pole is already maxed out, it can cost $5,000 or more to change out one pole, and that's before they attach their line to the pole. And I should add there are typically 35 to 40 poles per mile. This stuff isn't cheap. Quote from: rthompson80819 on November 27, 2010, 09:42:16 PM Power companies don't like to share pole space, but they are forced to by law,Thanks for the info. My remarks were aimed at putting new service into areas where there is power, but not much else. Years ago I lived in a rural place whee we were about 5 miles from a telephone sub-station. Yet there was no real phone service. Then only line was a 'farmer line" of open wire pair run by the old timers years ago. Three families had to share the line. We were in a deep valley and had no TV reception either. An old woman who lived alone spent hours on the party line. When it was working. It took years to put in a real telephone cable. A And yes, the phone company had to put in a lot of short poles. For some reason they could not use the tall near-empty power poles. Never could understand that. So, if the internet is to get better and faster for everyone, companies like the local power , cable and phone will need to revise their business practices. Quote from: Geek-9pm on November 28, 2010, 04:19:48 AM It took years to put in a real telephone cable. A And yes, the phone company had to put in a lot of short poles. For some reason they could not use the tall near-empty power poles. Never could understand that. In rural areas the power company is often an electric coop and they have agreements that go back to the 1920s and 1930s with farmers to set their poles on private land. In many contracts, it only allows electric service to be on those poles. From a practical stand point, if the power poles are on farm land, telephone lines might hang to low to allow farm machinery under them. Quote from: rthompson80819 on November 28, 2010, 11:06:46 AM In rural areas the power company is often an electric coop and they have agreements that go back to the 1920s and 1930s with farmers to set their poles on private land. In many contracts, it only allows electric service to be on those poles. From a practical stand point, if the power poles are on farm land, telephone lines might hang to low to allow farm machinery under them.That makes sense. But times are changing. The early part of this year there was a lot of talk about Rural Telephone, Cable TV and Broadband service. Quote Rural Telephone Service Co. awarded $101 million in Recovery Act ...Someday dial-up will be gone. But not next year. |
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