Solve : Buy refurbished PC with Vista??

1.	Solve : Buy refurbished PC with Vista??
Answer» Quote Personal experience and Quote I don't stay up-to-date with Vista It doesn't make sense whatsoever. Quote the RAM was a major issue of using all RAM at all times Vista handles RAM in totally different manor, than previous Windows versions. You need to know, or read about it. Quote After few applications users are required to restart their machine before they can open other software. Every operating system has to work on a computer, which meets specific hardware requirements. Windows 2000 will run on 256MB of RAM, but Vista won't. Vista wants 2GB of RAM, and dual core processor. 99% complains about Vista being slow, eating RAM, and other nonsense come from people, whose computer don't meet those specs. I could GO on, and on, but I don't want to waste more time, because I'm talking from my experience with Vista, and you apparently not.Quote Sigh.... That was easy....LOL Look how much I had to type...heheheThose 99% of the complains come from people that bought their machines from RETAIL stores. Machines that are assembled by their manufacturer and should meet the standards for working with Vista and yet they don't. Very few people will actually USE their eight year old machine to run Vista.Quote Machines that are assembled by their manufacturer and should meet the standards for working with Vista and yet they don't. Would you buy Ferrari with 1.5 l engine? Same goes for computers. You need to know what you're buying.Quote from: Broni on December 17, 2008, 09:36:50 PM Quote Machines that are assembled by their manufacturer and should meet the standards for working with Vista and yet they don't. Would you buy Ferrari with 1.5 l engine? Same goes for computers. You need to know what you're buying. Sorry I couldn't help but laugh at that one, that's good Ultimatum, if you're saying that new OSes are too resource intensive, why aren't you on DOS or earlier? Newer software always needs more resources. Take an XP PC from 2002, and slap Windows 95 on it - that's what you're saying is best with Vista. See my point?Quote from: Broni on December 17, 2008, 09:36:50 PM Quote Machines that are assembled by their manufacturer and should meet the standards for working with Vista and yet they don't. Would you buy Ferrari with 1.5 l engine? Same goes for computers. You need to know what you're buying. I see where you're going with this, and I agree, but we were talking about the issues people had from recently built machines. Those 99% of people have no idea what they're buying as far as it looks nice and they expect the machine to function properly. Quote Take an XP PC from 2002, and slap Windows 95 on it - that's what you're saying is best with Vista. See my point? I know what you mean.So how long did you run Vista before reverting back to XP ? ?Quote Those 99% of people have no idea what they're buying as far as it looks nice and they expect the machine to function properly. I'm not sure about 99% being complete computer newbies, but I, somewhat agree with your point. Retailers DO sell computers, which are NOT appropriate for given OS, but do not blame OS for it. Heck, if you check Micro$oft web pages, they swear, Vista will run on 512MB of RAM. Again, do not blame OS for M$ stupidity. Well, maybe be so, but we'll have to start with defining the word "run". Said that, my point is...if Vista is installed on appropriate machine, it IS very nice, PERFECTLY stable OS.Google { Vista is not worth "Vista is not worth" } gives 281 hits. Here is my search: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&as_q=Vista+is+not+worth&as_epq=Vista+is+not+worth&as_oq=&as_eq=&num=10&lr=&as_filetype=&ft=i&as_sitesearch=&as_qdr=all&as_rights=&as_occt=any&cr=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&safe=images But I still want it! Everybody else has it! I have it on my laptop, no problems or complaints. just had to remove all the vendor provided cruft like shudder Norton 360. "norton 360; let viruses attack in ALL directions!" This type of discussion has been repeated OVER AND OVER AND OVER with every new version of windows. 1992-1993 Quote This new windows 3.1 I don't like it, it doesn't even have real mode! I heard rumours their working on a new windows, called Chicago, I think I'll wait until they release that. September 1995... Quote I don't like windows 95, it's slow and uses up all of my 8MB of RAM. I think I'll stick with Windows 3.1 until Microsoft fixes it! can't wait for Memphis to come out! 1998-2000.. Quote Oh, man, I bought a new PC with windows 98 on it, ech, first thing I did was downgrade to windows 95. It's slow and bulky and even the explorer windows consume valuable ram. But I heard they have a new version in the works, I think they called it Whistler.... I think you can see where I'm going with this. Vista is ABSOLUTELY no different when it comes to these conversations. You can try to refute that fact all you want, but all your doing is stoking my point even higher by repeating the same type of arguments provided with the other Operating System upgrades.Beautiful quotes had to use the code names, heh. weird how I know them off the top of my head though. Or perhaps it's a bit sad....

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Personal experience

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I don't stay up-to-date with Vista

It doesn't make sense whatsoever.

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the RAM was a major issue of using all RAM at all times

Vista handles RAM in totally different manor, than previous Windows versions. You need to know, or read about it.

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After few applications users are required to restart their machine before they can open other software.

Every operating system has to work on a computer, which meets specific hardware requirements.
Windows 2000 will run on 256MB of RAM, but Vista won't. Vista wants 2GB of RAM, and dual core processor.
99% complains about Vista being slow, eating RAM, and other nonsense come from people, whose computer don't meet those specs.

I could GO on, and on, but I don't want to waste more time, because I'm talking from my experience with Vista, and you apparently not.Quote

Sigh....

That was easy....LOL
Look how much I had to type...heheheThose 99% of the complains come from people that bought their machines from RETAIL stores. Machines that are assembled by their manufacturer and should meet the standards for working with Vista and yet they don't. Very few people will actually USE their eight year old machine to run Vista.Quote

Machines that are assembled by their manufacturer and should meet the standards for working with Vista and yet they don't.

Would you buy Ferrari with 1.5 l engine?
Same goes for computers.
You need to know what you're buying.Quote from: Broni on December 17, 2008, 09:36:50 PM

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Machines that are assembled by their manufacturer and should meet the standards for working with Vista and yet they don't.
Would you buy Ferrari with 1.5 l engine?
Same goes for computers.
You need to know what you're buying.

Sorry I couldn't help but laugh at that one, that's good Ultimatum, if you're saying that new OSes are too resource intensive, why aren't you on DOS or earlier?
Newer software always needs more resources.
Take an XP PC from 2002, and slap Windows 95 on it - that's what you're saying is best with Vista.
See my point?Quote from: Broni on December 17, 2008, 09:36:50 PM

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Machines that are assembled by their manufacturer and should meet the standards for working with Vista and yet they don't.
Would you buy Ferrari with 1.5 l engine?
Same goes for computers.
You need to know what you're buying.

I see where you're going with this, and I agree, but we were talking about the issues people had from recently built machines. Those 99% of people have no idea what they're buying as far as it looks nice and they expect the machine to function properly.

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Take an XP PC from 2002, and slap Windows 95 on it - that's what you're saying is best with Vista.
See my point?

I know what you mean.So how long did you run Vista before reverting back to XP ? ?Quote

Those 99% of people have no idea what they're buying as far as it looks nice and they expect the machine to function properly.

I'm not sure about 99% being complete computer newbies, but I, somewhat agree with your point.
Retailers DO sell computers, which are NOT appropriate for given OS, but do not blame OS for it.
Heck, if you check Micro$oft web pages, they swear, Vista will run on 512MB of RAM. Again, do not blame OS for M$ stupidity.
Well, maybe be so, but we'll have to start with defining the word "run".
Said that, my point is...if Vista is installed on appropriate machine, it IS very nice, PERFECTLY stable OS.Google { Vista is not worth "Vista is not worth" } gives 281 hits.
Here is my search:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&as_q=Vista+is+not+worth&as_epq=Vista+is+not+worth&as_oq=&as_eq=&num=10&lr=&as_filetype=&ft=i&as_sitesearch=&as_qdr=all&as_rights=&as_occt=any&cr=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&safe=images

But I still want it! Everybody else has it! I have it on my laptop, no problems or complaints. just had to remove all the vendor provided cruft like *shudder* Norton 360. "norton 360; let viruses attack in ALL directions!"

This type of discussion has been repeated OVER AND OVER AND OVER with every new version of windows.

1992-1993
Quote

This new windows 3.1 I don't like it, it doesn't even have real mode! I heard rumours their working on a new windows, called Chicago, I think I'll wait until they release that.

September 1995...
Quote

I don't like windows 95, it's slow and uses up all of my 8MB of RAM. I think I'll stick with Windows 3.1 until Microsoft fixes it! can't wait for Memphis to come out!

1998-2000..
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Oh, man, I bought a new PC with windows 98 on it, ech, first thing I did was downgrade to windows 95. It's slow and bulky and even the explorer windows consume valuable ram. But I heard they have a new version in the works, I think they called it Whistler....

I think you can see where I'm going with this. Vista is ABSOLUTELY no different when it comes to these conversations. You can try to refute that fact all you want, but all your doing is stoking my point even higher by repeating the same type of arguments provided with the other Operating System upgrades.Beautiful quotes had to use the code names, heh.

weird how I know them off the top of my head though. Or perhaps it's a bit sad....

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