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Answer» Hi. I am planning to buy a new [highlight]Pentium D[/highlight] processor. I was looking to buy an Intel chipsets motherboard, but intel chipset motherboards have different specifications like [highlight]DDR2 RAM, PCI-Express[/highlight] graphics card etc which do not match with my components. But VIA chipset motherboards do match with my other components like RAM and graphics card. So I wanted to know that how do the [highlight]VIA chipsets[/highlight] rate, are the as good as intel chipsets or is there any major difference in performace between the two. I currently cant upgrade my RAM, graphics card, CPU and motherboard at once. So I am looking to just buy a new CPU and mobo which supports my OLDER components. So are the VIA chipsets good enough. Are they good enough specially for games or do they have lower performance. ThanksIt looks like you will have to make your purchase based on what type of RAM and Vid card you have and work backwards from there... You should have no problem with VIA chipsets vs. Intel...it's a moot point.VIA chipsets are used in a LOT of motherboards and if that will make your other components re-usable that sounds like a reasonable plan.So ur going to buy a new motherboard for this "new" CPU.. and then what? There is little point in buying a new CPU as the performance gain (in what exactly idk) will be minimal, unles u have an 8800 GTX SLi and a Celeron D 2.8Ghz. There is great point in buying a new graphics card however. So when u finally realize that it is ur graphics that needs to be replaced, ull have to buy a new motherboard. Why are u buying a "new" CPU and why does it have to be a Pentium D?First of all, you don't need a dual 8800GTX. A 7 series will be FINE. Secondly, I agree, why does it have to be pentium D? Why not Athlon 64/64FX/64X2 or if you're an Intel fan, a PLAIN old Pentium 4? I think an athlon 64 or pentium 4 will be fine. Adding RAM will be a better aproach. If you can only get one, RAM will be the best to start with. Then change the mobo and get the rest. Quote First of all, you don't need a dual 8800GTX. A 7 series will be fine. Secondly, I agree, why does it have to be pentium D? Why not Athlon 64/64FX/64X2 or if you're an Intel fan, a plain old Pentium 4? I think an athlon 64 or pentium 4 will be fine. Adding RAM will be a better aproach. If you can only get one, RAM will be the best to start with. Then change the mobo and get the rest. The ONLY CPU that anyone should buy is a Core 2 Duo.I have a celeron D 3.0ghz and the performance is miserable. games barely reach 20 frames per second. I have a Geforce 6600 GT. I had some other mobo and cpu but i had to change it because the computer kept crashing time after time. Older CPU was Pentium 4 2.4 ghz. When I tried to see why my games run slower, i re-used my older mobo and cpu by inserting them in the same computer, i mean all the other components same then the games reach 60 frames per second! Thats too much performance loss with the celeron 3 ghz. The problem is that i cannot use the older cpu because it is not LGA775, but my new mobo supports LGA775. My Ram is 1 GB. I want to have pentium D because yeah i am an intel fan and as i live in saudi arabia AMD is scarce here and the CORE2DUO is much expensive than the Pentium D.A Pentium 4 2.4Ghz is much better than a Celeron 3.0Ghz. You should buy a Core 2 Duo E6300 for 175$, but remmember that the MOST important part of ur PC is the graphics card. You should spend as much as u can on the graphics card, and only somewhat on the CPU, but since buying a Pentium D is a bad idea because Core 2 Duos are powerfull and cheap i would say get the E6300. Buy a motherboard with Socket 775 and a PCIe x16 slot, an E6300, some RAM and save up as much money as possible for the graphics card.The 6600GT is not a bad graphics card, and without buying lots of new componants, I would have to say a better processor is in order. Being the most important, doesn't mean it's the only importance Quote The 6600GT is not a bad graphics card, and without buying lots of new componants, I would have to say a better processor is in order. Being the most important, doesn't mean it's the only importance Buying a new CPU isnt going to help unless its a MASSIVE bottleneck. Remmember, a CPU is only a limiting factor, not a BENEFICIAL one.Then you could argue the exact same for a graphics card. Does a good component increase speed, or a bad component decrease speed? Glass half empty or half full? Whatever you choose, be consistant. Quote Quote The 6600GT is not a bad graphics card, and without buying lots of new componants, I would have to say a better processor is in order. Being the most important, doesn't mean it's the only importance Buying a new CPU isnt going to help unless its a MASSIVE bottleneck. Remmember, a CPU is only a limiting factor, not a beneficial one. Would a Pentium III be a massive bottleneck? 800MHz to be exact. Quote A Pentium 4 2.4Ghz is much better than a Celeron 3.0Ghz. You should buy a Core 2 Duo E6300 for 175$, but remmember that the [highlight]MOST important part of ur PC is the graphics card.[/highlight] You should spend as much as u can on the graphics card, and only somewhat on the CPU, but since buying a Pentium D is a bad idea because Core 2 Duos are powerfull and cheap i would say get the E6300. Buy a motherboard with Socket 775 and a PCIe x16 slot, an E6300, some RAM and save up as much money as possible for the graphics card. Perhaps VERY important, but not the MOST important. Try running a PC with dual 8800GTX graphics cards with only 64MB of RAM. Not gonna work too well. I agree though, a good graphics is important for gamers. But not for everyone. Quote Then you could argue the exact same for a graphics card. Does a good component increase speed, or a bad component decrease speed? Glass half empty or half full? Whatever you choose, be consistant. Excellent point...Well said. Quote Then you could argue the exact same for a graphics card. Does a good component increase speed, or a bad component decrease speed? Glass half empty or half full? Whatever you choose, be consistant. A graphics card IS a beneficial factor, unlike a CPU. I dont understand what u mean glass half empty/full. You see the CPU's main job when it comes to rendering games (wich is all that is important) is to pass on the information to the GPU, thats it. If a CPU can pass over to the GPU 60 frames per second and the GPU can render 100 FPS in a certain game - thats called a bottleneck. Since most CPUs can pass on 60 FPS (if they cant then were looking at a big bottleneck), its the graphics card that is important all of the time, because it is what does the actuall rendering, and if u buy a more expensive CPU its not going to help at all.

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Hi. I am planning to buy a new [highlight]Pentium D[/highlight] processor. I was looking to buy an Intel chipsets motherboard, but intel chipset motherboards have different specifications like [highlight]DDR2 RAM, PCI-Express[/highlight] graphics card etc which do not match with my components.
But VIA chipset motherboards do match with my other components like RAM and graphics card. So I wanted to know that how do the [highlight]VIA chipsets[/highlight] rate, are the as good as intel chipsets or is there any major difference in performace between the two. I currently cant upgrade my RAM, graphics card, CPU and motherboard at once. So I am looking to just buy a new CPU and mobo which supports my OLDER components. So are the VIA chipsets good enough. Are they good enough specially for games or do they have lower performance. ThanksIt looks like you will have to make your purchase based on what type of RAM and Vid card you have and work backwards from there...

You should have no problem with VIA chipsets vs. Intel...it's a moot point.VIA chipsets are used in a LOT of motherboards and if that will make your other components re-usable that sounds like a reasonable plan.So ur going to buy a new motherboard for this "new" CPU.. and then what?
There is little point in buying a new CPU as the performance gain (in what exactly idk) will be minimal, unles u have an 8800 GTX SLi and a Celeron D 2.8Ghz. There is great point in buying a new graphics card however.
So when u finally realize that it is ur graphics that needs to be replaced, ull have to buy a new motherboard.

Why are u buying a "new" CPU and why does it have to be a Pentium D?First of all, you don't need a dual 8800GTX. A 7 series will be FINE. Secondly, I agree, why does it have to be pentium D? Why not Athlon 64/64FX/64X2 or if you're an Intel fan, a PLAIN old Pentium 4? I think an athlon 64 or pentium 4 will be fine. Adding RAM will be a better aproach. If you can only get one, RAM will be the best to start with. Then change the mobo and get the rest. Quote

First of all, you don't need a dual 8800GTX. A 7 series will be fine. Secondly, I agree, why does it have to be pentium D? Why not Athlon 64/64FX/64X2 or if you're an Intel fan, a plain old Pentium 4? I think an athlon 64 or pentium 4 will be fine. Adding RAM will be a better aproach. If you can only get one, RAM will be the best to start with. Then change the mobo and get the rest.

The ONLY CPU that anyone should buy is a Core 2 Duo.I have a celeron D 3.0ghz and the performance is miserable. games barely reach 20 frames per second. I have a Geforce 6600 GT. I had some other mobo and cpu but i had to change it because the computer kept crashing time after time. Older CPU was Pentium 4 2.4 ghz. When I tried to see why my games run slower, i re-used my older mobo and cpu by inserting them in the same computer, i mean all the other components same then the games reach 60 frames per second! Thats too much performance loss with the celeron 3 ghz.
The problem is that i cannot use the older cpu because it is not LGA775, but my new mobo supports LGA775.
My Ram is 1 GB. I want to have pentium D because yeah i am an intel fan and as i live in saudi arabia AMD is scarce here and the CORE2DUO is much expensive than the Pentium D.A Pentium 4 2.4Ghz is much better than a Celeron 3.0Ghz.

You should buy a Core 2 Duo E6300 for 175$, but remmember that the MOST important part of ur PC is the graphics card. You should spend as much as u can on the graphics card, and only somewhat on the CPU, but since buying a Pentium D is a bad idea because Core 2 Duos are powerfull and cheap i would say get the E6300.
Buy a motherboard with Socket 775 and a PCIe x16 slot, an E6300, some RAM and save up as much money as possible for the graphics card.The 6600GT is not a bad graphics card, and without buying lots of new componants, I would have to say a better processor is in order.

Being the most important, doesn't mean it's the only importance Quote

The 6600GT is not a bad graphics card, and without buying lots of new componants, I would have to say a better processor is in order.

Being the most important, doesn't mean it's the only importance

Buying a new CPU isnt going to help unless its a MASSIVE bottleneck.

Remmember, a CPU is only a limiting factor, not a BENEFICIAL one.Then you could argue the exact same for a graphics card. Does a good component increase speed, or a bad component decrease speed? Glass half empty or half full? Whatever you choose, be consistant. Quote

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The 6600GT is not a bad graphics card, and without buying lots of new componants, I would have to say a better processor is in order.

Being the most important, doesn't mean it's the only importance

Buying a new CPU isnt going to help unless its a MASSIVE bottleneck.

Remmember, a CPU is only a limiting factor, not a beneficial one.

Would a Pentium III be a massive bottleneck? 800MHz to be exact. Quote

A Pentium 4 2.4Ghz is much better than a Celeron 3.0Ghz.

You should buy a Core 2 Duo E6300 for 175$, but remmember that the [highlight]MOST important part of ur PC is the graphics card.[/highlight] You should spend as much as u can on the graphics card, and only somewhat on the CPU, but since buying a Pentium D is a bad idea because Core 2 Duos are powerfull and cheap i would say get the E6300.
Buy a motherboard with Socket 775 and a PCIe x16 slot, an E6300, some RAM and save up as much money as possible for the graphics card.

Perhaps VERY important, but not the MOST important. Try running a PC with dual 8800GTX graphics cards with only 64MB of RAM. Not gonna work too well. I agree though, a good graphics is important for gamers. But not for everyone. Quote

Then you could argue the exact same for a graphics card. Does a good component increase speed, or a bad component decrease speed? Glass half empty or half full? Whatever you choose, be consistant.

Excellent point...Well said. Quote

Then you could argue the exact same for a graphics card. Does a good component increase speed, or a bad component decrease speed? Glass half empty or half full? Whatever you choose, be consistant.

A graphics card IS a beneficial factor, unlike a CPU. I dont understand what u mean glass half empty/full.

You see the CPU's main job when it comes to rendering games (wich is all that is important) is to pass on the information to the GPU, thats it. If a CPU can pass over to the GPU 60 frames per second and the GPU can render 100 FPS in a certain game - thats called a bottleneck.
Since most CPUs can pass on 60 FPS (if they cant then were looking at a big bottleneck), its the graphics card that is important all of the time, because it is what does the actuall rendering, and if u buy a more expensive CPU its not going to help at all.

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