Solve : Can supergule be used to hold 2 bits of connector together ??

1.	Solve : Can supergule be used to hold 2 bits of connector together ??
Answer» I have a Sony Z1VA that I sent to a repair shop to REPLACE the hard drive. In the process, the shop damaged the ribbon cable that connects the keyboard to the motherboard and the connector now is not holdings together. The shop said they received the laptop in that condition even though it was purchased from new and never been open up. So it is a he say they say situation. Some of the keys on the keyboard no longer work because the connectors are not holding together. Can I use superglue to hold the connectors ? Just a drop or two into the holes of the connector or is there some other way ? Any suggestions greatly appreciated. Thanks1. Superglue is a good electrical insulator so putting drops of it in the connector's holes will make things worse. 2. Once you have superglued a connector in place you will probably never be able to disconnect it. 3. Buy a new keyboard and either fit it yourself or find a different repair shop. It may never have been opened since new, but that laptop was new a long time ago... like 7 or 8 years ago. Maybe it's time to get a new one. Quote from: Salmon Trout on July 02, 2011, 06:31:05 AM 1. Superglue is a good electrical insulator so putting drops of it in the connector's holes will make things worse. 2. Once you have superglued a connector in place you will probably never be able to disconnect it. 3. Buy a new keyboard and either fit it yourself or find a different repair shop. It may never have been opened since new, but that laptop was new a long time ago... like 7 or 8 years ago. Maybe it's time to get a new one. Thanks for your reply. If superglue is not the answer, is there an alternative home use glue ? Between your suggested (2) and (3) option, if superglue can be used even when it can't be taken apart in future, surely it is better than your suggested option (3) ? Why throw away something that is still completely useable ? It is so wasteful and deplete natural resources, isn't it ? I'd prefer if there is an alternative glue suggestion that can be used at home. I believe i see a trend developing with your posts. You ask us some questions we give what we believe is an answer that will best meet your needs (often including why you should NOT do something) then back you come trying to get a change of mind. This happened with your hard-drive removal issue on perhaps the same computer. Members (including myself) and other sources warned you against trying to "prise" off plastic parts on the HDD. Still you had to do it and the proposed result that it would cause damage was exactly what occurred in that case. Now let me be the 1st to say you are totally at liberty to do ANYTHING you want when it comes to trying to deal with your computer issues(including doing things we urge you NOT to do). But i have to wonder why you bother to come to us with your questions when ultimately you will go ahead with things that you were warned about that will defeat what should be in your own best interest. I would be very interested to hear your explanation for that phenomenon? truenorhtYou have nothing to lose by trying, but if you are anxious to conserve resources you do not have to throw away the whole laptop; you can just replace the keyboard. Anyhow, can't you send it for recycling? Quote from: truenorth on July 02, 2011, 07:53:32 AM I believe i see a trend developing with your posts. You ask us some questions we give what we believe is an answer that will best meet your needs (often including why you should NOT do something) then back you come trying to get a change of mind. This happened with your hard-drive removal issue on perhaps the same computer. Members (including myself) and other sources warned you against trying to "prise" off plastic parts on the HDD. Still you had to do it and the proposed result that it would cause damage was exactly what occurred in that case. Now let me be the 1st to say you are totally at liberty to do ANYTHING you want when it comes to trying to deal with your computer issues(including doing things we urge you NOT to do). But i have to wonder why you bother to come to us with your questions when ultimately you will go ahead with things that you were warned about that will defeat what should be in your own best interest. I would be very interested to hear your explanation for that phenomenon? truenorht Thank you for your comments. I apologise for the delay in replying as I was not aware I have replies here after having checked this site a few times following my last post. For some reasons, the mail notification didn't work even though I have ticked the box for notification. Firstly, let me just say this is a different laptop from the one that have a hard disk problem. I did not realised that I am not able to express my opnion or to ask further questions or put forward my alternative suggestions for considerations after having received suggestions. From what you siad, it seems that the suggestions or advise put forward is final and is without further negotiation !!! You said that "....warned you against trying to "prise" off plastic parts on the HDD. Still you had to do it ...." Did I MISSED something somewhere as I can't find where did this happen ?? Such assumptions is where you ended up with this mesage to me which is uncalled for since eveyone have the right to come back with further comments or like you, if they find I am difficult, to ignore me !! I always take other's comments into consideration, but I also form my own opnion after having received other's comments. Then I put forward my alternative that I think is workable to my situation. After aall, who knows my personal situation better than myself, eg in terms of finance, mobility, including my personal attachement or not, to a certain laptop. But rest assured, I do take advise and comments given here seriously and if I am advise against a course of action, I will certainly follow it. But I do feel that having received the facts and information here, I have the right to return with alternative suggestions for further comments and advise unless of course, the suggestions I received shys away from the actual problem. If this is not how this site work, then this site is not for me and I'd be more than happy to be removed from it.Quote from: Salmon Trout on July 02, 2011, 07:54:22 AM You have nothing to lose by trying, but if you are anxious to conserve resources you do not have to throw away the whole laptop; you can just replace the keyboard. Anyhow, can't you send it for recycling? The problem is that I am not sure if the faulty connector is the keyboard END or the motherboard end. This is because I didn't do this myself, but I saw the repair shop tring to hold these 2 ends together to get the keyboard to work. So the keyboard itself is not faulty. It would be ideal if anyone knows of an alternative glue that work. Someone suggested hotglue, but I found out that this is sold in quantity rather than for minute usage and a hot glue gun is also needed. Quote from: slickcondo on July 12, 2011, 03:38:30 AM You said that "....warned you against trying to "prise" off plastic parts on the HDD. Still you had to do it ...." Did I missed something somewhere as I can't find where did this happen ?? Such assumptions is where you ended up with this mesage to me which is uncalled for since eveyone have the right to come back with further comments or like you, if they find I am difficult, to ignore me !! truenorth - I see what you mean about prising off the black plastic part. For your info, this is on a dead hard drive and AFTER knowing how a SATA and a IDE drive looks. I did this out of curiousty. So no harm to the laptop. I thought you were referring to this action where I didn't know what I was doing and made the problem in hand worse Everyone's circumstances are affected by many factors when it comes to making decisions and of course it ALWAYS remains the prerogative of the individual to do "their own thing". That philosophy certainly extends to you as you try to deal with your computer issues. However we here on the CH forums (for the most part) take pride in our efforts to help others without cost and to the best of our individual and collective abilities. You are right when you mention in your last post my reference to the "prising" of plastic HDD connections and to my concerns as to the potential detrimental consequences of such an effort. Therefore it was frustrating to see that you were possibly (what i believed again) about to embark on another potentially disadvantageous endeavor. My own BELIEF is that when dealing with many of the conundrums of life there can be great advantage to receiving advice and suggestions from many sources to either develop a consensus or to see of the more than one way to do something. I do NOT profess to a propitiatory ownership of ALL facts and truths but as i believe to be the case with the vast majority of CH members we try our best and it can be very frustrating when things go wrong by doing things that were warned against. I am sure i speak for the general belief of the CH membership when we welcome your participation both as a receiver and provider of assistance here on the forums. In fact if a suggestion does not sit right with you it should be questioned. However sometimes the reasons and evidence are overwhelming and should be followed.truenorthQuote from: truenorth on July 12, 2011, 07:41:08 AM Everyone's circumstances are affected by many factors when it comes to making decisions and of course it ALWAYS remains the prerogative of the individual to do "their own thing". That philosophy certainly extends to you as you try to deal with your computer issues. However we here on the CH forums (for the most part) take pride in our efforts to help others without cost and to the best of our individual and collective abilities. You are right when you mention in your last post my reference to the "prising" of plastic HDD connections and to my concerns as to the potential detrimental consequences of such an effort. Therefore it was frustrating to see that you were possibly (what i believed again) about to embark on another potentially disadvantageous endeavor. My own belief is that when dealing with many of the conundrums of life there can be great advantage to receiving advice and suggestions from many sources to either develop a consensus or to see of the more than one way to do something. I do NOT profess to a propitiatory ownership of ALL facts and truths but as i believe to be the case with the vast majority of CH members we try our best and it can be very frustrating when things go wrong by doing things that were warned against. I am sure i speak for the general belief of the CH membership when we welcome your participation both as a receiver and provider of assistance here on the forums. In fact if a suggestion does not sit right with you it should be questioned. However sometimes the reasons and evidence are overwhelming and should be followed.truenorth As they say, the best learning lesson is to learn by mistake, especially if it is a costly one !!! Then one will never forget it. As for the plastic bit, I did it knowing there is a great possibility I will mess up the hard disk, but only becuase it is a dead disk and I know that the replacement will come with the plastic on it after having found out that it is a SATA disk. Perhaps I did not make this clear in my post, but then you should not have assume also, especially after all, I did state a different model between this laptop and the other one. If I am like many of my friends and colleagues who are afraid to try a new programs or something new in case it messed up their pcs. that's how they don't learn. I've learnt everything I know (or the little I know about pcs) from trying and error. At least now, I can reinstall a Win 98 on a old pc who runs that o/s which is more complicated than reinstalling a XP. In any case, getting back to the issue on hand, I'd still like to find out if there is a made for home use glue that can be use safely on the connectors. Quote In any case, getting back to the issue on hand, I'd still like to find out if there is a made for home use glue that can be use safely on the connectors. Safely? Yes. Pretty much any glue. Whether it will work is another question altogether that nobody here can answer with any amount of certainty. You may very well make things worse.Quote from: BC_Programmer on July 12, 2011, 02:22:33 PM Safely? Yes. Pretty much any glue. Whether it will work is another question altogether that nobody here can answer with any amount of certainty. You may very well make things worse. OK, thanks. I was hoping someone knows of a similar glue to hot glue as I've been told by a user of this product who have been using it over the years on his computing repair that this is ideal. But this is leaning towards the commercial scale usage instead of home since I only need a few drops of it.

Answer»

I have a Sony Z1VA that I sent to a repair shop to REPLACE the hard drive. In the process, the shop damaged the ribbon cable that connects the keyboard to the motherboard and the connector now is not holdings together.

The shop said they received the laptop in that condition even though it was purchased from new and never been open up. So it is a he say they say situation. Some of the keys on the keyboard no longer work because the connectors are not holding together. Can I use superglue to hold the connectors ? Just a drop or two into the holes of the connector or is there some other way ?

Any suggestions greatly appreciated. Thanks1. Superglue is a good electrical insulator so putting drops of it in the connector's holes will make things worse.
2. Once you have superglued a connector in place you will probably never be able to disconnect it.
3. Buy a new keyboard and either fit it yourself or find a different repair shop.

It may never have been opened since new, but that laptop was new a long time ago... like 7 or 8 years ago. Maybe it's time to get a new one.

Quote from: Salmon Trout on July 02, 2011, 06:31:05 AM

1. Superglue is a good electrical insulator so putting drops of it in the connector's holes will make things worse.
2. Once you have superglued a connector in place you will probably never be able to disconnect it.
3. Buy a new keyboard and either fit it yourself or find a different repair shop.

It may never have been opened since new, but that laptop was new a long time ago... like 7 or 8 years ago. Maybe it's time to get a new one.

Thanks for your reply. If superglue is not the answer, is there an alternative home use glue ?

Between your suggested (2) and (3) option, if superglue can be used even when it can't be taken apart in future, surely it is better than your suggested option (3) ?

Why throw away something that is still completely useable ? It is so wasteful and deplete natural resources, isn't it ?

I'd prefer if there is an alternative glue suggestion that can be used at home.
I believe i see a trend developing with your posts. You ask us some questions we give what we believe is an answer that will best meet your needs (often including why you should NOT do something) then back you come trying to get a change of mind. This happened with your hard-drive removal issue on perhaps the same computer. Members (including myself) and other sources warned you against trying to "prise" off plastic parts on the HDD. Still you had to do it and the proposed result that it would cause damage was exactly what occurred in that case. Now let me be the 1st to say you are totally at liberty to do ANYTHING you want when it comes to trying to deal with your computer issues(including doing things we urge you NOT to do). But i have to wonder why you bother to come to us with your questions when ultimately you will go ahead with things that you were warned about that will defeat what should be in your own best interest. I would be very interested to hear your explanation for that phenomenon? truenorhtYou have nothing to lose by trying, but if you are anxious to conserve resources you do not have to throw away the whole laptop; you can just replace the keyboard. Anyhow, can't you send it for recycling?
Quote from: truenorth on July 02, 2011, 07:53:32 AM

I believe i see a trend developing with your posts. You ask us some questions we give what we believe is an answer that will best meet your needs (often including why you should NOT do something) then back you come trying to get a change of mind. This happened with your hard-drive removal issue on perhaps the same computer. Members (including myself) and other sources warned you against trying to "prise" off plastic parts on the HDD. Still you had to do it and the proposed result that it would cause damage was exactly what occurred in that case. Now let me be the 1st to say you are totally at liberty to do ANYTHING you want when it comes to trying to deal with your computer issues(including doing things we urge you NOT to do). But i have to wonder why you bother to come to us with your questions when ultimately you will go ahead with things that you were warned about that will defeat what should be in your own best interest. I would be very interested to hear your explanation for that phenomenon? truenorht

Thank you for your comments. I apologise for the delay in replying as I was not aware I have replies here after having checked this site a few times following my last post. For some reasons, the mail notification didn't work even though I have ticked the box for notification.

Firstly, let me just say this is a different laptop from the one that have a hard disk problem. I did not realised that I am not able to express my opnion or to ask further questions or put forward my alternative suggestions for considerations after having received suggestions. From what you siad, it seems that the suggestions or advise put forward is final and is without further negotiation !!!

You said that "....warned you against trying to "prise" off plastic parts on the HDD. Still you had to do it ...." Did I MISSED something somewhere as I can't find where did this happen ?? Such assumptions is where you ended up with this mesage to me which is uncalled for since eveyone have the right to come back with further comments or like you, if they find I am difficult, to ignore me !!

I always take other's comments into consideration, but I also form my own opnion after having received other's comments. Then I put forward my alternative that I think is workable to my situation. After aall, who knows my personal situation better than myself, eg in terms of finance, mobility, including my personal attachement or not, to a certain laptop.

But rest assured, I do take advise and comments given here seriously and if I am advise against a course of action, I will certainly follow it. But I do feel that having received the facts and information here, I have the right to return with alternative suggestions for further comments and advise unless of course, the suggestions I received shys away from the actual problem.

If this is not how this site work, then this site is not for me and I'd be more than happy to be removed from it.Quote from: Salmon Trout on July 02, 2011, 07:54:22 AM

You have nothing to lose by trying, but if you are anxious to conserve resources you do not have to throw away the whole laptop; you can just replace the keyboard. Anyhow, can't you send it for recycling?

The problem is that I am not sure if the faulty connector is the keyboard END or the motherboard end. This is because I didn't do this myself, but I saw the repair shop tring to hold these 2 ends together to get the keyboard to work. So the keyboard itself is not faulty.

It would be ideal if anyone knows of an alternative glue that work. Someone suggested hotglue, but I found out that this is sold in quantity rather than for minute usage and a hot glue gun is also needed. Quote from: slickcondo on July 12, 2011, 03:38:30 AM

You said that "....warned you against trying to "prise" off plastic parts on the HDD. Still you had to do it ...." Did I missed something somewhere as I can't find where did this happen ?? Such assumptions is where you ended up with this mesage to me which is uncalled for since eveyone have the right to come back with further comments or like you, if they find I am difficult, to ignore me !!

truenorth - I see what you mean about prising off the black plastic part. For your info, this is on a dead hard drive and AFTER knowing how a SATA and a IDE drive looks. I did this out of curiousty. So no harm to the laptop.

I thought you were referring to this action where I didn't know what I was doing and made the problem in hand worse Everyone's circumstances are affected by many factors when it comes to making decisions and of course it ALWAYS remains the prerogative of the individual to do "their own thing". That philosophy certainly extends to you as you try to deal with your computer issues. However we here on the CH forums (for the most part) take pride in our efforts to help others without cost and to the best of our individual and collective abilities. You are right when you mention in your last post my reference to the "prising" of plastic HDD connections and to my concerns as to the potential detrimental consequences of such an effort. Therefore it was frustrating to see that you were possibly (what i believed again) about to embark on another potentially disadvantageous endeavor. My own BELIEF is that when dealing with many of the conundrums of life there can be great advantage to receiving advice and suggestions from many sources to either develop a consensus or to see of the more than one way to do something. I do NOT profess to a propitiatory ownership of ALL facts and truths but as i believe to be the case with the vast majority of CH members we try our best and it can be very frustrating when things go wrong by doing things that were warned against. I am sure i speak for the general belief of the CH membership when we welcome your participation both as a receiver and provider of assistance here on the forums. In fact if a suggestion does not sit right with you it should be questioned. However sometimes the reasons and evidence are overwhelming and should be followed.truenorthQuote from: truenorth on July 12, 2011, 07:41:08 AM

Everyone's circumstances are affected by many factors when it comes to making decisions and of course it ALWAYS remains the prerogative of the individual to do "their own thing". That philosophy certainly extends to you as you try to deal with your computer issues. However we here on the CH forums (for the most part) take pride in our efforts to help others without cost and to the best of our individual and collective abilities. You are right when you mention in your last post my reference to the "prising" of plastic HDD connections and to my concerns as to the potential detrimental consequences of such an effort. Therefore it was frustrating to see that you were possibly (what i believed again) about to embark on another potentially disadvantageous endeavor. My own belief is that when dealing with many of the conundrums of life there can be great advantage to receiving advice and suggestions from many sources to either develop a consensus or to see of the more than one way to do something. I do NOT profess to a propitiatory ownership of ALL facts and truths but as i believe to be the case with the vast majority of CH members we try our best and it can be very frustrating when things go wrong by doing things that were warned against. I am sure i speak for the general belief of the CH membership when we welcome your participation both as a receiver and provider of assistance here on the forums. In fact if a suggestion does not sit right with you it should be questioned. However sometimes the reasons and evidence are overwhelming and should be followed.truenorth

As they say, the best learning lesson is to learn by mistake, especially if it is a costly one !!! Then one will never forget it.

As for the plastic bit, I did it knowing there is a great possibility I will mess up the hard disk, but only becuase it is a dead disk and I know that the replacement will come with the plastic on it after having found out that it is a SATA disk. Perhaps I did not make this clear in my post, but then you should not have assume also, especially after all, I did state a different model between this laptop and the other one.

If I am like many of my friends and colleagues who are afraid to try a new programs or something new in case it messed up their pcs. that's how they don't learn. I've learnt everything I know (or the little I know about pcs) from trying and error. At least now, I can reinstall a Win 98 on a old pc who runs that o/s which is more complicated than reinstalling a XP.

In any case, getting back to the issue on hand, I'd still like to find out if there is a made for home use glue that can be use safely on the connectors.

Quote

In any case, getting back to the issue on hand, I'd still like to find out if there is a made for home use glue that can be use safely on the connectors.

Safely? Yes. Pretty much any glue.

Whether it will work is another question altogether that nobody here can answer with any amount of certainty. You may very well make things worse.Quote from: BC_Programmer on July 12, 2011, 02:22:33 PM

Safely? Yes. Pretty much any glue.

Whether it will work is another question altogether that nobody here can answer with any amount of certainty. You may very well make things worse.

OK, thanks.

I was hoping someone knows of a similar glue to hot glue as I've been told by a user of this product who have been using it over the years on his computing repair that this is ideal. But this is leaning towards the commercial scale usage instead of home since I only need a few drops of it.

Solve : Can supergule be used to hold 2 bits of connector together ??

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