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Answer» I used to use DOS, a LONG time ago. I remember a little, but not a lot. Here is my problem: I have an OLD computer that does have some recent files on it. There are two hard drives in this machine, both with data I MUST retrieve. Recently, WIND98 went totally south in the machine. I do not know what caused it, nor how to fix it, but have not the time to fix it so I want to use DOS to retrieve what I need. I know most of the commands I think I need but do not remember how to properly use them. I need to know the following: Starting from C: I need to get into My Documents. But I do not remember the command to change directory. Then I want to run a list of the directory contents, one page at a time so I can actually read what is there. Then I want to move some files from that directory to a thumb drive I will have in the machine which will be F: To get them to the thumb drive, I can either copy or move and do not care which but believe I want to do copy thus leaving a copy on the hard drive in the machine, JIC. Can anyone help me with this, please. DaAncientOne"cd " changes directories and I believe you use "F:" to change to the F drive, But this could be wrong.
Try using "copy -?" or "copy /?".Hello DaAncientOne: It is posoble, please check
a.- Starting from C: C: and PRESS ENTER b.- I need to get into My Documents. CD C:\Users\DaAncientOne\Documents and Press ENTER Note: if is necesario Change the PATH: C:\Users\DaAncientOne\My Documents for: The Path on your computer to "My Documents" c.- Then I want to run a list of the directory contents, one page at a time so I can actually read what is there. Dir /p d.- Then I want to move some files from that directory to a thumb drive I will have in the machine which will be F: To get them to the thumb drive, One file at a time, with Move.
MOVE C:\Users\DaAncientOne\My Documents\File01 F:\Saved_Files\File01 or One file at a time, with Copy COPY C:\Users\DaAncientOne\My Documents\File01 F:\Saved_Files\File01 or All My-Documents Sub-directory and Sub-Sub-Subdirectories. xCOPY C:\Users\DaAncientOne\My Documents\*.* F:\Saved_Files\*.* /D/E/V/H/K/Y/I At end, all the files are on drive F:
If the machine has a cdrom then you can boot up a bootable cdrom of a Live linux OS and it will have a GUI file manager that you can browse the files with and copy them to a USB flashdrive.
The only points you may need to know is that drives are not called c: d: but are called hda1 hda2 hdb1 and sda1 etc. The Linux should mount the available drives when booting - Ubuntu does I think.
Linux Mint is said to be most like Windows.Adan, Thanks you very much. You hit the nail RIGHT on the head. As I read your post, it all flowed back into my tired old brain. Since posting this, I remembered I have the o/s on disc. IF I can find that, I figured I could boot up with it in the machine and maybe gain control. I have no idea what happened. I love auto racing (INDY style and most others) and have a ton of photos I was looking at thru VuePrint and all of sudden, the machine went bonkers and off it went into a tirade like a 3 year old kid. Finally, it stopped. Lately, when viewing the pictures, they have been very blurred. I tried some things and it helped a bit. AFter the tirade, they were clearer than ever before. I don't use this machine very often, it is in my workshop and I mainly now put ideas and creations into it before trying them to so I can refer to them to refresh this old brain. After the tirade, I didn't shut it down for a couple of days and finally I did. Then when I tried to turn it on, it was a disaster. Now it goes into scandisk and then just sits there doing nothing. I have tried to get into command prompt and that is when my DOS memory went blank. I might try the O/S disk, or I might just copy what I need and discard it somewhere if I can find anyone who can use I will give it to them, AFTER I clear everything in it as there is ALSO a ton of business files in it. I had considered adding it to my current system, but it is also very old (eight years) and I am getting a new one before the end of the year. Then I might clear out this one (the newest) and add the hard drives from the old one but that is almost a waste of time considering now how small they are. So for me, it is get what I can from the old, put on this machine. then get a new machine. I just have too much work to do and do not trust anyone else to do it. I have had many "experts" over the years do things and they always screw it up. Oh well.
Thanks again guys for answering and to Adan for exactly what I was looking for. And, thank God for this board!Before I get out of everyone's hair, I read on the net that beginning with Windows 8, you can no longer use DOS. Is that true?
And of the latest versions of windows, what do you all recommend? I am very happy with XP Pro SPC, but it has to go now, I guess.Quote from: DaAncientOne on August 24, 2013, 05:53:33 PM Before I get out of everyone's hair, I read on the net that beginning with Windows 8, you can no longer use DOS. Is that true? ...
Yes, it is true, but with an explanation. Most DOS programs were written is the 16 bit mode. Modern programs must use 32 bit to work properly. I don't want to cause confusion with exact details, nut the devil is in the details. Here is an article that explains it in general terms. Does Windows 8 Support 16-bit Programs? The article shows there is a solution, but you may not like it. Read it. Then come back here with any questions. Quote from: DaAncientOne on August 24, 2013, 05:53:33 PMBefore I get out of everyone's hair, I read on the net that beginning with Windows 8, you can no longer use DOS. Is that true?
And of the latest versions of windows, what do you all recommend? I am very happy with XP Pro SPC, but it has to go now, I guess.
No Windows NT System can use DOS. Allow me to explain as best I can, because it's a mite confusing.
1. First, we have DOS. 2. Now, we also are aware, of Windows 3.1
Stemming from Windows 3.1, there was also Windows 95, Windows 98, 98SE, and Windows ME. These ran on top of a DOS-based Subsystem.
The DIFFERENCE comes with Windows 2000 and particularly XP. XP moved the entire consumer codebase over to Windows NT. Windows NT was up until that time designed primarily for workstations. It had No DOS sitting underneath everything and was in fact an entire standalone OS all on it's own.
Windows NT Can run DOS Applications, but it runs it through the Command Prompt and the "NT Virtual DOS Machine". If you want to see this in action, start "command" from Start->Run, and check task manager. "NTVDM.EXE" will be shown proudly.
The Command Prompt (cmd.exe) is not DOS; it is actually a complete Windows Application that provides a command prompt and the syntax and appearance is similar to DOS.
Essentially, you could sort-of use DOS in XP, but only if you were lucky and the DOS applications you wanted to use still ran in the NT DOS Virtual Machine.
64-bit Windows has no NTVDM so you cannot run any DOS applications. 32-bit Windows 8 still includes the NTVDM, as far as I'm aware.
Note that there is still a 64-bit version of cmd.exe and a 32-bit version of cmd.exe, so you can still use the Command Prompt.
The "Command Prompt" is often considered analogous to DOS, but this is not the case.Quote from: DaAncientOne on August 24, 2013, 05:53:33 PMI read on the net that beginning with Windows 8, you can no longer use DOS. Is that true?
No. Windows 8 like every version has a command prompt and has many of the same commands that you will find in MSDOS and they work the same in most cases - except you have long filenames now, and more commands that MSDOS didn't have.
64 bit windows of any kind cannot run 16 bit programs.Quote64 bit windows of any kind cannot run 16 bit programs. Right! The OP may want to know there is tie possibility of booting DOS from as USB stick or a mini CD. (Or a BIG CD if yh0ou don't care.)
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/windows/en-US/e4696428-6999-4946-81c1-ea934eb6fd41/dos-622
Read the article. It is legal if you follow the instructions there. A DOS boot CD can be used for solving a number of issues with older programs and older computer Hard Drives.
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