Solve : How can we spot evil intent by a Poster??

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Answer» QUOTE from: Carbon Dudeoxide on June 02, 2009, 06:30:30 PM deleting files is not hacking.... NOT EVEN CLOSE! BATCH can be used for pranking. Microsoft Visual Basic can be used for pranking. Batch can NOT be used for hacking. Quote from: Helpmeh on June 02, 2009, 06:33:12 PM Batch can NOT be used for hacking. this shows your ignorance. No i am not talking about pure batch. I am talking if you put tools like nc, nmap, nikto (etc and other command line hacking tools) in a batch file or simply just use them on the command line. Now, do you think your statement is correct? Quote from: gh0std0g74 on June 02, 2009, 07:17:39 PM this shows your ignorance. No i am not talking about pure batch. I am talking if you put tools like nc, nmap, nikto (etc and other command line hacking tools) in a batch file or simply just use them on the command line. Now, do you think your statement is correct? I meant pure batch...USING stuff like del isn't hacking... Quote from: Helpmeh on June 02, 2009, 07:27:28 PM using stuff like del isn't hacking... why is that so? Do you know that part of hacking is deleting one's traces? eg log files that might capture the actions of hackers or a temp hidden directory where hacker may have put his tools...so in that case, del is useful, right? Or do you even know what is hacking? Quote from: gh0std0g74 on June 02, 2009, 07:30:07 PM why is that so? Do you know that part of hacking is deleting one's traces? eg log files that might capture the actions of hackers or a temp hidden directory where hacker may have put his tools...so in that case, del is useful, right? Or do you even know what is hacking? I mean like someone calling the following hacking: echo off del "%userprofile%\." Deleting one's traces wouldn't be directly considered hacking, but it can aid a hack...and batch can't make "VIRUSES!"... Quote from: Helpmeh on June 02, 2009, 07:32:14 PM and batch can't make "VIRUSES!"... are you really sure what you are talking now? with a combination of tools, you can indeed make batch virus. NB(from your previous post: VB can also be used to make macro viruses, don't you know that? ) Quote from: gh0std0g74 on June 02, 2009, 07:47:47 PM are you really sure what you are talking now? with a combination of tools, you can indeed make batch virus. NB(from your previous post: VB can also be used to make macro viruses, don't you know that? ) Microsoft Visual Basic...I can make a form that freezes any Microsoft office program guarenteed after 2003.Carbon wrote: Quote You'd be very surprised how many 'pranksters' come here. And BTW, deleting files is not hacking.... If removing a directory and sub directories and files is not dangerous, why are Patio, BC and Carbon so concerned? Bashirpisj is pulling your leg, Playing with your unfounded paranoia of learning to be a Hacker from this Board of Nerds. Absurd. Nerds lost in their own little world. Quote from: billrich on June 02, 2009, 07:59:06 PM Carbon wrote: If removing a directory and sub directories and files is not dangerous, why are Patio, BC and Carbon so concerned? Bashirpisj is pulling your leg, Playing with your unfounded paranoia of learning to be a Hacker from this Board of Nerds. Absurd. Nerds lost in their on little world. Did we say it wasn't dangerous? No. We said it wasn't hacking. Quote Unauthorized attempts to bypass the security mechanisms of an information system or network en.wiktionary.org/wiki/hacking Using batch isn't really bypassing anything but the stupidity of the end user...anyone can view the source of a batch file, as long as they're smart enough to right click, and select edit. Quote from: Helpmeh on June 02, 2009, 08:02:06 PM Using batch isn't really bypassing anything but the stupidity of the end user...anyone can view the source of a batch file, as long as they're smart enough to right click, and select edit. no respectable hacker would even leave the batch file for you to right click on it. Quote from: gh0std0g74 on June 02, 2009, 08:06:30 PM no respectable hacker would even leave the batch file for you to right click on it. No hacker would do that. A skiddie on a mission on the other hand (basically everyone who helped FILL the network drive), would do that exact same thing.You can indeed make viruses from batch files. However, this isn't the point here. Nor is hacking. You're trailing off topic. Quote from: Helpmeh on June 02, 2009, 03:52:09 PM You just need to look at the post and ask yourself this question: "Why would they want to do/know that? What could happen if they find out?" Use your brain! If you're smart enough to get on the internet, you obviously have one.Since this has degenerated into slop it ends here. Topic Closed.

Answer» QUOTE from: Carbon Dudeoxide on June 02, 2009, 06:30:30 PM

deleting files is not hacking....

NOT EVEN CLOSE!

BATCH can be used for pranking. Microsoft Visual Basic can be used for pranking. Batch can NOT be used for hacking. Quote from: Helpmeh on June 02, 2009, 06:33:12 PM

Batch can NOT be used for hacking.

this shows your ignorance. No i am not talking about pure batch. I am talking if you put tools like nc, nmap, nikto (etc and other command line hacking tools) in a batch file or simply just use them on the command line. Now, do you think your statement is correct? Quote from: gh0std0g74 on June 02, 2009, 07:17:39 PM

this shows your ignorance. No i am not talking about pure batch. I am talking if you put tools like nc, nmap, nikto (etc and other command line hacking tools) in a batch file or simply just use them on the command line. Now, do you think your statement is correct?

I meant pure batch...USING stuff like del isn't hacking... Quote from: Helpmeh on June 02, 2009, 07:27:28 PM

using stuff like del isn't hacking...

why is that so? Do you know that part of hacking is deleting one's traces? eg log files that might capture the actions of hackers or a temp hidden directory where hacker may have put his tools...so in that case, del is useful, right? Or do you even know what is hacking? Quote from: gh0std0g74 on June 02, 2009, 07:30:07 PM

why is that so? Do you know that part of hacking is deleting one's traces? eg log files that might capture the actions of hackers or a temp hidden directory where hacker may have put his tools...so in that case, del is useful, right? Or do you even know what is hacking?

I mean like someone calling the following hacking:
echo off
del "%userprofile%\*.*"

Deleting one's traces wouldn't be directly considered hacking, but it can aid a hack...and batch can't make "VIRUSES!"... Quote from: Helpmeh on June 02, 2009, 07:32:14 PM

and batch can't make "VIRUSES!"...

are you really sure what you are talking now? with a combination of tools, you can indeed make batch virus.

NB(from your previous post: VB can also be used to make macro viruses, don't you know that? ) Quote from: gh0std0g74 on June 02, 2009, 07:47:47 PM

are you really sure what you are talking now? with a combination of tools, you can indeed make batch virus.

NB(from your previous post: VB can also be used to make macro viruses, don't you know that? )

Microsoft Visual Basic...I can make a form that freezes any Microsoft office program guarenteed after 2003.Carbon wrote:
Quote

You'd be very surprised how many 'pranksters' come here. And BTW, deleting files is not hacking....

If removing a directory and sub directories and files is not dangerous, why are Patio, BC and Carbon so concerned?

Bashirpisj is pulling your leg, Playing with your unfounded paranoia of learning to be a Hacker from this Board of Nerds.

Absurd. Nerds lost in their own little world. Quote from: billrich on June 02, 2009, 07:59:06 PM

Carbon wrote:
If removing a directory and sub directories and files is not dangerous, why are Patio, BC and Carbon so concerned?

Bashirpisj is pulling your leg, Playing with your unfounded paranoia of learning to be a Hacker from this Board of Nerds.

Absurd. Nerds lost in their on little world.

Did we say it wasn't dangerous? No. We said it wasn't hacking.

Quote

Unauthorized attempts to bypass the security mechanisms of an information system or network
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/hacking

Using batch isn't really bypassing anything but the stupidity of the end user...anyone can view the source of a batch file, as long as they're smart enough to right click, and select edit. Quote from: Helpmeh on June 02, 2009, 08:02:06 PM

Using batch isn't really bypassing anything but the stupidity of the end user...anyone can view the source of a batch file, as long as they're smart enough to right click, and select edit.

no respectable hacker would even leave the batch file for you to right click on it. Quote from: gh0std0g74 on June 02, 2009, 08:06:30 PM

no respectable hacker would even leave the batch file for you to right click on it.

No hacker would do that.

A skiddie on a mission on the other hand (basically everyone who helped FILL the network drive), would do that exact same thing.You can indeed make viruses from batch files. However, this isn't the point here. Nor is hacking.

You're trailing off topic. Quote from: Helpmeh on June 02, 2009, 03:52:09 PM

You just need to look at the post and ask yourself this question: "Why would they want to do/know that? What could happen if they find out?"

Use your brain! If you're smart enough to get on the internet, you obviously have one.Since this has degenerated into slop it ends here.
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