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Answer» Hi, I have a problem that nobody here seems to have ever seen, I tried everything, forums, helpdesks, experts-exchange, ATI support, ASUS support and nobody can help me: ... 1. Power supply seems to be pushed to the edge. 350 watts doesn't leave much margin. 2. I don't completely understand what this means. Default settings work, except CPU speed is half? 1.Can't be the power supply, I unplugged almost everything: Quote Here's what I tried: There was only a hard drive, the processor, 2 memory chips, the mouse, the keyboard and the graphic adapter, is it really possoble that the power supply is that bad? 2.You perfectly understood, that like if I reset my CMOS with the jumper on the motherboard, every specs is then set to default, but If i look at the system PROPERTIES, the CPU speed is at half-speed. And as soon as I reboot, everything is back to normal: CPU normal speed, graphic adapter all ?#$? up Quote 1.Can't be the power supply, I unplugged almost everything: 1. I agree, not the power supply. 2. After resetting CMOS, you may have to enter CMOS one time and then save settings, after that, settings are probably correct. Verify this by not booting to Windows, enter CMOS 2nd time to see if CPU is reported correctly. These high power CPU's (and graphics CPU's) are very picky about voltage. If mobo is a little off, it won't be happy. You could try adjusting voltages in BIOS. Yep, already tried that to, I entered the bios after the reset and saved and restarted without changing anything, but still, the CPU speed was alright and the graphic adapter was going cracy again. It looks like there are always two options: 1-The CPU is normal but the RADEON is not 2-The CPU is not normal but the RADEON is I also tried to upgrade the voltage of the RADEON, that was set by default to 1.50V, to 1.60, 1.60 and 1.80(Max value) but that did not change anything. And I don't know much about CPU voltage, should: -Higher CPU voltage and higher RADEON voltage? -Higher CPU voltage and lower RADEON voltage? Stupid ASUS support, I gave them my motherboard, CPU and graphic adapter model, they would be able to solve this problem fast if they would only care. And what do you think of the AGP slot being empty in this report: http://etudiant.tim.cstj.net/2001/9956138/agp.htm Could it be a voltage problem? By the way, thanks a lot for giving me the time you're not paid for while ASUS doesn't give me the time thay are paid for. Marco Quote ... This got me to thinking. AGP speed is a multiplier of FSB speed. I think the offender is the graphics card or an AGP setting in the BIOS. That's why report says AGP=empty. Try this utility: At Start---Run, type dxdiag. What does it say on Display tab? Hi, So, maybe you found the problem? on My CPU's retail box, it says: 800 MHz System Bus in the BIOS, there I can set the FSB, since this is supposed to mean: Front side bus, is this the same? because I can only set it from 100 to 400 in the BIOS. And in the everest Report, it says the original FSB is 200 MHz, What is what? So here's the dxdiag display properties, I only tried the DIRECT3D tests on the first monitor: Card name: RADEON 9800 PRO Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc. Chip type: Radeon 9800 AGP (0x4E48) DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz) Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4E48&SUBSYS_00021002&REV_00 Display Memory: 128.0 MB Current Mode: 1600 x 1200 (32 bit) (75Hz) Monitor: Écran Plug-and-Play Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200 Driver Name: ati2dvag.dll Driver Version: 6.14.0010.6343 (English) DDI Version: 9 (or higher) Driver Attributes: Final Retail Driver Date/Size: 4/28/2003 21:39:48, 291584 bytes WHQL Logo'd: n/a WHQL Date STAMP: n/a VDD: n/a Mini VDD: ati2mtag.sys Mini VDD Date: 4/28/2003 21:39:24, 625920 bytes Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-0D08-11CF-756B-0820A1C2CB35} Vendor ID: 0x1002 Device ID: 0x4E48 SubSys ID: 0x00021002 Revision ID: 0x0000 Revision ID: 0x0000 Video Accel: Deinterlace Caps: n/a Registry: OK DDraw Status: Enabled D3D Status: Enabled AGP Status: Not Available DDraw Test Result: All tests were successful. D3D7 Test Result: All tests were successful. D3D8 Test Result: All tests were successful. D3D9 Test Result: All tests were successful. Card name: RADEON 9800 PRO - Secondary Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc. Chip type: Radeon 9800 AGP (0x4E48) DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz) Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4E68&SUBSYS_00031002&REV_00 Display Memory: 128.0 MB Current Mode: 1600 x 1200 (32 bit) (75Hz) Monitor: Dell D1626HT Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200 Driver Name: ati2dvag.dll Driver Version: 6.14.0010.6343 (English) DDI Version: 9 (or higher) Driver Attributes: Final Retail Driver Date/Size: 4/28/2003 21:39:48, 291584 bytes WHQL Logo'd: n/a WHQL Date Stamp: n/a VDD: n/a Mini VDD: ati2mtag.sys Mini VDD Date: 4/28/2003 21:39:24, 625920 bytes Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-0D28-11CF-756B-0920A1C2CB35} Vendor ID: 0x1002 Device ID: 0x4E68 SubSys ID: 0x00031002 Revision ID: 0x0000 Revision ID: 0x0000 Video Accel: Deinterlace Caps: n/a Registry: OK DDraw Status: Enabled D3D Status: Enabled AGP Status: Not Available DDraw Test Result: Not run D3D7 Test Result: Not run D3D8 Test Result: Not run D3D9 Test Result: Not runBus speed is 800 (200 FSB * 4) CPU Speed -- 200 * 13 = 2600 (13 is locked by cpu) AGP Speed -- 200 * 4 * 2/3 = 533 Does motherboard have setting for AGP multiplier? If, yes, set to 2/3. From your report: AGP Properties: AGP Version 3.00 AGP Status Disabled AGP Aperture Size 128 MB Supported AGP Speeds 1x, 2x, 4x, 8x Fast-Write Supported, Disabled Side Band Addressing Supported, Enabled Problems & Suggestions: Problem AGP is disabled. This may cause performance penalty. Woohooo! so, this is the problem.. do you have any idea how to correct this? Is it always like that? I mean, CPU speed*13 and FSB*4 ?Oh, and I don't know how to set the multiplier either, is it in the BIOS? If so, what's the "BIOS" term for that multiplier?#[email protected]#$? I looked in Everest to look closer at the problem, and now it says: AGP Controller: AGP Version 3.00 AGP Status Enabled AGP Device ATI Radeon 9800 Pro AGP Aperture Size 128 MB Supported AGP Speeds 1x, 2x, 4x, 8x Current AGP Speed 8x Fast-Write Supported, Disabled Side Band Addressing Supported, Enabled Maybe I disabled something when I did the report, but now, it's still not woking even if it's enabled. But what about what you were saying about dxdiag, when you said: This got me to thinking. AGP speed is a multiplier of FSB speed. I think the offender is the graphics card or an AGP setting in the BIOS. That's why report says AGP=empty. Try this utility: At Start---Run, type dxdiag. What does it say on Display tab?By the way, I updated the report on the web |
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