I know lots about computers but need input on Dedicated Graphics for gaming... I got $600 absolute max to spend on a laptop and I was gonna buy a current model and have decided that current models are too much and an overkill for the games I wanna play..... I will not be buying any AMD Graphics or AMD CPU since I think they are crappier (some of you may love them and I respect that) and they're not my strong area... I know Intel and Nvidia better... I will not be getting any 10 series GTX cards as they are also out of budget and overkill for GTA SA and GTA 4 (maybe GTA 5 in future)... I was wanting to if I can get away with a 7th gen intel i7 and Geforce 940MX or should I go with a 5th gen i5 and Geforce 840M both with 8 or 16 gb of ram and SSD or if you have any suggestions please leave them! both computers are 14" models.... seems dedicated graphics only mostly come in 14" and 17" laptops and not so much on 15" laptops

would really love to hear your recommendations and suggestions! You seem to know what you want. I wont talk you out of a i7 in favor of a i5. However if your trying to stretch that $600 budget to the max, you could always go with a refurb laptop which will come with a good warranty if purchased from a trusted source and you might be able to get a $800 laptop for $600 or less.

As far as Intel vs AMD and nVidia GTX vs AMD RX series. It pretty much comes down to what your budget allows, benchmark figures, and if saving a little here can be used elsewhere to stick within budget and have everything you ever needed. The biggest thing is what brand products are carrying these CPU or GPUs. I dont just buy any cheapest brand for video card etc, I buy trusted brands. Same goes for the motherboards that pair up with the CPU or APU if cutting corners with integrated graphics.

As far as gaming laptops go, I stay away from MSI for their entire line of products. I have been burned by them and friends have too. I have yet to hear that they cleaned up their QUALITY issues with their products. MSI has gaming laptops and you might find some. If you want to get one its up to you, but just saying, so many people have had issues with them.

Before your purchase I additionally suggest to look online for reviews. See what other people have to say about the product. Is it 4 or 5 stars or 3 stars or less with people waving their arms with their complaints saying STAY AWAY from this product etc.

As for going with 14" display, that saves in not going with a LARGER screen and so it helps with STICKING with your $600 budget. You might find a deal with a larger display model, but most with larger displays come with a premium above that of smaller display laptops.I don't really like MSI anyways... I was gonna go with a base level computer and upgrade it with parts when the time comes... the one with GTX 940MX is brand NEW even though I would have to save about $100 after selling my computers and the one with 840M is a used computer....

I wanna know what would be the best dedicated nvidia video card in a laptop for my needs... what would be the best for the price and performance?  I'm thinkinking of going wth an older card but what one? Quote

I was gonna go with a base level computer and upgrade it with parts when the time comes

To me it sounds like you are describing laptop systems- Mobile  GPU chipsets (840M) and size specs ("both computers are 14" models"). Very few laptops have upgradable Graphics; the graphics chip tends to be soldered onto the mainboard. RAM and Hard Drive tend to be the only components that can be upgraded on a laptop- you'll be "stuck" with everything else.

as far as ram and HDD I'm just going to get 4 or 8 GB to start with (whatever is lowest amount for the system I'm getting) and a 500 GB HDD...  all of that will be upgraded soon after I buy the machine.

Just wanted to state that you want to be really careful when buying a laptop with say only 4GB RAM... I have had to assist people who have bought laptops that need to then upgrade to 8GB and they find out that their laptops that they bought can only handle a maximum of 4GB. So be sure to check on the maximum memory spec for the laptop to avoid this trap.

Sorry unable to answer your question about 15watt U series with gaming... someone else might be able to. I have yet to own any core i7 systems. I have two 6 year old Thinkpad Core i5 laptops that I like and they are older 520m 2.4Ghz. I have gamed lightweight games and the Intel HD graphics was ok, but not anything with crazy frame rate impressiveness.

What game titles are you going to play on the laptop that are 4 to 6 years old?