Hi
My first question:
I've been looking for a descent hit counter...
REEE without advertising.
Without ending on another site with a page I don't understand or where I am.
Can hit counter operation located on one's site?
But, of course, I'm in the learning process of website building. I am at one location now. I'd like to know good and reliabel site building place to choose from. I've been looking at Yahoo. Right now I'm learning at BraveHost.
I only just started. I know so very little. I'm doing well with all so far.

My next question:
I'm looking for a reliable FREE website chat rooms without advertising.
I heard from others, that RAN free websites, free hit counters & free chat rooms. But, unfortunately, I lost track of these people with my travels.
Some of these free website installed chat rooms were pretty good. There were controls for the host, etc., to have more than one host, along with other nice options.
I looked thru the internet, and I'm overwhelmed. I'mlooking for anothers experience. Giving advice where to go. What is good and what is not very good. etc etc whatever.

I am a beginner. I am enjoying the learning experience.
I'm interested in anyone's point of view and suggestions.
But, I'm having problems with applying these two problems. There is so much on the internet that it would take me a lot of time going thru it. Also, I'm somewhat hesitant about some of these sites. And how stop what I've chosen. I removed the code. And thats all I did. No notifications.

with appreciation for the help and suggestions given...
ron1
Just picking up on the hit counter aspect - I FIND www.statcounter.com is very good as a freebie - just put the code you'll get at your homepage footer. They only promote themselves thru a subtle link in the code.

You could also run a hit counter on your own server - if you have a cgi_bin facility then it is possible to run a small Perl script which will increment hits for you - either visible or invisible - a web search may well find you one of those. The statcounter route THO is the easiest option IMO.ChrisXPro
Thanks for this reply.
I downloaded the code and will try it out as soon as possible.
ron1
Ron - once you have the code you can test your page from computer as long as you are online ... it'll update with each page load if you have it set that way.

At least you can check it for position and looks before it goes on a server.Hi
I didn't quite understand what you meant "[[[once you have the code you can test your page from computer as long as you are online]]] ... [[[it'll update with each page load[[[if you have it set that way.]]]"

What do you mean? -from my computer without going to my site?
Settings for each page load? -you mean when any of the pages are looked into by someone?

I'm not sure of the settings...
On the Index page, I thought the counter would be indicated there...it isn't. The graphic sends me to StatCounter. I have to sign in. I really don't understand that much. But, I'd like the counter #'s to show on the Main Page.
I still have the Bravehost.com counter running for the time being. I'm changing cause I'm looking for certain options. I haven't had the time to look into StatCounter as yet. I'm not really interested in too much. I guess I'm using this as a learning process.

Thanks I appreciate this additional information.
ron

Ah - my bad - I had thought you had gone to Statcounter and set things up and got the final code.

All I meant was with that system - once code is dropped into an html page it can be check for function on your computer if online - because the code makes a call to the statcounter server - as long as you are on line then the counter displays and increments.

But you mention a statcounter graphic? To set up with them you need to go to site - sign up - then follow thru the series of pages to generate your own counter. I go for an image one and choose color of figures and BACKGROUND to suit my page - and usually opt for the medium size bold with 8 digits. If you go that route it should become clear. I am thinking you did not go thru the whole deal?

If you use a CGI approach then of course any code will not run until you have a page on a server.Hi
"I am thinking you did not go thru the whole deal?"

I most likely missed a lot. I just re-did some of the settings again. The digit counter did not show up. So I checked that.
Regarding your comment above. I hurridly went thru what I thought was the complete question form. I will go thru the whole thing again checking my settings. This is the first time in setting up like this. I had Bravehost.com hit counter, but I was interested in couple missing things. I am not interested in a lot of stuff anyhow.
I appreciate your helpful replies
ron