Solve : I need help finding/buildign a new gaming computer for 600-800

1.	Solve : I need help finding/buildign a new gaming computer for 600-800 dollars?
Answer» So Ive been playing on this very old laptop that can literally run no games at all and Im REALLY looking for a new gaming laptop or pc that can run games that require high performance because my laptop right now can barely run league of legends. im looking to run games like skryim,csgo,planetside,etc... Can you go with a desktop instead of a laptop? You can get BETTER performance for your money with a desktop instead of a laptop. Quote from: DaveLembke on March 19, 2015, 01:08:56 PM Can you go with a desktop instead of a laptop? You can get better performance for your money with a desktop instead of a laptop. yes I can do with a desktop What games do you plan on running and do you already have the monitor(s) or are they to be included in this budget as well? Quote from: DaveLembke on March 19, 2015, 01:15:49 PM What games do you plan on running and do you already have the monitor(s) or are they to be included in this budget as well? well I said what games im planning on running and yes I already have a monitor that is pretty good its not with me right now but I know its fine I just need the other partsDo you have a preference for INTEL or AMD CPU? Do you already own an OS to install to this or will you need to buy that for this build? If he3 does not have the OS and some basic parts, height consider purchase of a bare used gaming PC. These come with a legit install of Windows and a working PC with no monitor. Used on eBay they sell almost half the price of anew retail model. Adding a better GPU and more memory can be hard to beat going piece-by piece. Quote from: Geek-9pm on March 20, 2015, 06:47:15 AM These come with a legit install of Windows Totally untrue, loads of used gaming PCs on places like eBay and Craigslist SHIP with pirated OSs, you need to take proper care and make sure that the original COA or full retail set.There are many legit vendors on eBay. Quote Price: US $365.00 Buy It Now AMD Quad Core Gaming Desktop PC Computer 4.0 GHz Custom Built System NEW WIN 7 Memory: 4 GB Screen Size: None Hard Drive Capacity: 250 GB Seller : bbrenda69 (9414 ) 100% Positive feedback eBay now has in place a number of consumer protection methods unlike other auction sites. The above vendor has a 100% rating from 9414 sales. http://www.ebay.com/itm/AMD-Quad-Core-Gaming-Desktop-PC-Computer-4-0-GHz-Fast-Custom-Built-System-NEW-/391066702983 It comes with Windows 7 Pro, which retails for 300 dollars. It seems unlikely for the OS to be a legitimate copy, despite their attestations. Their lack of negative feedback is not an indicator of their legitimacy. I'd expect the type of people to purchase a PC in this manner isn't going to care if the OS is pirated as long as it works. At the prices they are selling them for, something is certainly fishy.Geek - That does not show that the copy is genuine and even if it is does not mean that EVERY PC on eBay is. That seller in particular is rather interesting, ignoring the fact that the PCs in general are badly specced and appear to use cheap parts, most of which should never be allowed to be called a "gaming PC", the first PC I clicked on claims to run "Windows 7 Ultimate" and is listed for sale, as new for $359.99. This is rather interesting, the "Ultimate" version of Windows 7 provides very little benefit for the average user over Home Premium yet costs over twice as much. An OEM copy of Windows 7 Ultimate costs $200 which would leave $159.99 for not only parts but the seller's profit for the PC. With those specs you would find it very hard to get those parts for that price, even if you did use the lowest quality ones available. Now, why would they be spending an extra $100 on the OS that will not benefit almost any user? I'm not saying that this is definitely a pirated OS, but it definitely seems very suspicious. Quite frankly, that seller should not be in business, all of their PCs are terribly specced. Their highest end PC for example claims to be "New" yet has a GPU from 2010, and an extremely low end CPU. They are either out to rip inexperienced people off or have clearly no idea what they are doing. Also notice that loads of their PC comes from selling cosmetics products, not PCs. Besides, the only people who would actually buy one of those PCs is going to be an inexperienced user who will have no idea that what they are getting is terrible. The PC in question is here: http://www.ebay.com/itm/AMD-Quad-Core-Gaming-Desktop-PC-Computer-4-0-G-Custom-Built-System-WIN-7-/391066702717?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5b0d64537dThanks for the link. They have a phone number. They claim many happy customers. In the eBay listing that also say: Quote We offer only quality items. Is that not true? How would one know? As for the OEM price of Windows 7 Ultimate, it is whatever Microsoft says. Are you an OEM reseller? If so, you can not say what the OEM cost is because the OEM can not sell the OS by itself. They buy in mass pricing. The end user does not get a DVD, just a sticker on the case of the PC. It is per-installed and the user has to make a backup copy. The cost per unit is very reasonable. I will stick to my recommendation.Get a PC from a legit vender who has a license from Microsoft. You will get the lowest price e possible on the OS. Even if some of the PC is shoddy, it represents the lowest entry price for something guaranteed to work out of the box. Just add in the key components the improve the performance. I have never hears of a ugly case making a game run slow. Quote Is that not true? How would one know? Well, given the fact they are selling PCs at such a price that it would be impossible to build WITHOUT using the cheapest components at every price point and they offer a "Gaming" PC with AMD's lowest end integrated graphics possible then they are certainly not shooting for quality. When I say OEM, I am referring to the Windows System Builder licences which are available from stores such as Newegg. For Windows 7 Ultimate the price is $200. That eBay seller is far too small to get any sort of discount so purchasing these copies is their only legitimate option. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832416808&cm_re=windows_7_ultimate-_-32-416-808-_-Product. Besides, this is totally irrelevant to the original question, I am purely trying to point out that your statement was totally incorrect so that people don't get mislead into buying machines with pirated OSs or generally crap parts such as the one you listed. Quote from: Geek-9pm on March 20, 2015, 01:07:34 PM Thanks for the link. They have a phone number. They claim many happy customers. So does Reimage. Quote from: BC_Programmer on March 20, 2015, 01:41:32 PM So does Reimage. Oh, so you like Reimage?

Solve : I need help finding/buildign a new gaming computer for 600-800 dollars?

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So Ive been playing on this very old laptop that can literally run no games at all and Im REALLY looking for a new gaming laptop or pc that can run games that require high performance because my laptop right now can barely run league of legends. im looking to run games like skryim,csgo,planetside,etc... Can you go with a desktop instead of a laptop? You can get BETTER performance for your money with a desktop instead of a laptop. Quote from: DaveLembke on March 19, 2015, 01:08:56 PM

Can you go with a desktop instead of a laptop? You can get better performance for your money with a desktop instead of a laptop.

yes I can do with a desktop
What games do you plan on running and do you already have the monitor(s) or are they to be included in this budget as well? Quote from: DaveLembke on March 19, 2015, 01:15:49 PM

What games do you plan on running and do you already have the monitor(s) or are they to be included in this budget as well?

well I said what games im planning on running and yes I already have a monitor that is pretty good its not with me right now but I know its fine I just need the other partsDo you have a preference for INTEL or AMD CPU? Do you already own an OS to install to this or will you need to buy that for this build?
If he3 does not have the OS and some basic parts, height consider purchase of a bare used gaming PC. These come with a legit install of Windows and a working PC with no monitor. Used on eBay they sell almost half the price of anew retail model. Adding a better GPU and more memory can be hard to beat going piece-by piece.

Quote from: Geek-9pm on March 20, 2015, 06:47:15 AM

These come with a legit install of Windows

Totally untrue, loads of used gaming PCs on places like eBay and Craigslist SHIP with pirated OSs, you need to take proper care and make sure that the original COA or full retail set.There are many legit vendors on eBay.
Quote

Price:
US $365.00
Buy It Now

AMD Quad Core Gaming Desktop PC Computer 4.0 GHz
Custom Built System NEW WIN 7
Memory: 4 GB Screen Size: None
Hard Drive Capacity: 250 GB

Seller :
bbrenda69 (9414 )
100% Positive feedback

eBay now has in place a number of consumer protection methods unlike other auction sites. The above vendor has a 100% rating from 9414 sales.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/AMD-Quad-Core-Gaming-Desktop-PC-Computer-4-0-GHz-Fast-Custom-Built-System-NEW-/391066702983

It comes with Windows 7 Pro, which retails for 300 dollars. It seems unlikely for the OS to be a legitimate copy, despite their attestations.

Their lack of negative feedback is not an indicator of their legitimacy. I'd expect the type of people to purchase a PC in this manner isn't going to care if the OS is pirated as long as it works.

At the prices they are selling them for, something is certainly fishy.Geek - That does not show that the copy is genuine and even if it is does not mean that EVERY PC on eBay is.

That seller in particular is rather interesting, ignoring the fact that the PCs in general are badly specced and appear to use cheap parts, most of which should never be allowed to be called a "gaming PC", the first PC I clicked on claims to run "Windows 7 Ultimate" and is listed for sale, as new for $359.99. This is rather interesting, the "Ultimate" version of Windows 7 provides very little benefit for the average user over Home Premium yet costs over twice as much. An OEM copy of Windows 7 Ultimate costs $200 which would leave $159.99 for not only parts but the seller's profit for the PC. With those specs you would find it very hard to get those parts for that price, even if you did use the lowest quality ones available. Now, why would they be spending an extra $100 on the OS that will not benefit almost any user? I'm not saying that this is definitely a pirated OS, but it definitely seems very suspicious.

Quite frankly, that seller should not be in business, all of their PCs are terribly specced. Their highest end PC for example claims to be "New" yet has a GPU from 2010, and an extremely low end CPU. They are either out to rip inexperienced people off or have clearly no idea what they are doing.

Also notice that loads of their PC comes from selling cosmetics products, not PCs. Besides, the only people who would actually buy one of those PCs is going to be an inexperienced user who will have no idea that what they are getting is terrible.

The PC in question is here: http://www.ebay.com/itm/AMD-Quad-Core-Gaming-Desktop-PC-Computer-4-0-G-Custom-Built-System-WIN-7-/391066702717?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5b0d64537dThanks for the link. They have a phone number. They claim many happy customers. In the eBay listing that also say:
Quote

We offer only quality items.

Is that not true? How would one know?

As for the OEM price of Windows 7 Ultimate, it is whatever Microsoft says. Are you an OEM reseller? If so, you can not say what the OEM cost is because the OEM can not sell the OS by itself. They buy in mass pricing. The end user does not get a DVD, just a sticker on the case of the PC. It is per-installed and the user has to make a backup copy. The cost per unit is very reasonable.

I will stick to my recommendation.Get a PC from a legit vender who has a license from Microsoft. You will get the lowest price e possible on the OS. Even if some of the PC is shoddy, it represents the lowest entry price for something guaranteed to work out of the box. Just add in the key components the improve the performance. I have never hears of a ugly case making a game run slow.
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Is that not true? How would one know?

Well, given the fact they are selling PCs at such a price that it would be impossible to build WITHOUT using the cheapest components at every price point and they offer a "Gaming" PC with AMD's lowest end integrated graphics possible then they are certainly not shooting for quality.

When I say OEM, I am referring to the Windows System Builder licences which are available from stores such as Newegg. For Windows 7 Ultimate the price is $200. That eBay seller is far too small to get any sort of discount so purchasing these copies is their only legitimate option. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832416808&cm_re=windows_7_ultimate-_-32-416-808-_-Product.

Besides, this is totally irrelevant to the original question, I am purely trying to point out that your statement was totally incorrect so that people don't get mislead into buying machines with pirated OSs or generally crap parts such as the one you listed. Quote from: Geek-9pm on March 20, 2015, 01:07:34 PM

Thanks for the link. They have a phone number. They claim many happy customers.

So does Reimage.
Quote from: BC_Programmer on March 20, 2015, 01:41:32 PM

So does Reimage.

Oh, so you like Reimage?

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