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Microsoft cops to webcode theft
Blames 'Chinese vendor'
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/15/microsoft_to_apologize_to_plurk/
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Microsoft has admitted that its new Chinese microblogging service used webcode pilfered from a similar service popular elsewhere in Asia.
On Monday, as reported by The Reg, Asian microblogging SITE Plurk accused Microsoft China of pilfering its code for a new social-networking feature known as Juku on the Chinese MSN site.
Monday night, Microsoft announced that it had removed the offending feature as it investigated the charges, and now, Microsoft has admitted that the code was indeed lifted from Plurk.
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Tut tut tut...Microsoft, you need to respect intellectual property...Quote from: Helpmeh on December 15, 2009, 04:08:13 PM
Tut tut tut...Microsoft, you need to respect intellectual property...

It isn't the first time they have been caught!

Any user of XP, check this one out.

Navigate to "C:\Windows\Help\Tours\WindowsMediaPlayer\Audio\Wav".

Located there are exactly nine WAV files, with a size between 80 and 360 Kilobytes. They serve as background sound during the Windows Media Player Tour. When you open one of these files with the notepad, (right click, open with, choose program, notepad) you at first only see scrambled letters. Of course, you think, it's a sound file, after all.

But things become interesting when you scroll down to the very bottom in notepad. Located there is a type of watermarking, which records the software that the Microsoft musician used to create the WAV files.

At the bottom, you will find something like this:
LISTB INFOICRD 2000-04-06 IENG Deepz0ne ISFT Sound Forge 4.5

At first, that sounds anything but spectacular. It seems as if the Microsoft musician or the freelance musician commissioned by Microsoft used the Sony-made software " Sound Forge " (formerly Sonic) in its 4.5 version. Sound Forge is a tool for professionals and enables users to create WAV, AIFF, MP3 and other music files priced at $400.

On its face, all that's not unusual: Microsoft uses professional software. Who would've thought? But wait a minute, who or what is "DeepzOne"?

DeepzOne is (or at least was) member of the Warez group Radium that had SPECIALIZED on cracking music software. Along with a person using the alias "Sandor," he was also co-founder of this group, which was established in 1997( see in this interview ). In addition, it was DeepzOne who started circulating the cracked 4.5 version of Sound Forge a few years ago.

I don't think MS ever released a report on this either.That's really cool. Quote
Any user of XP,

the "tours" folder doesn't exist for me. (yes, it is an XP machine, despite what my specs state (those are for my main desktop).


Anyway, what does that have to do with Microsoft? Microsoft paid a professional sound foundry to create the sounds for most of their programs, games, and so forth. I doubt they audit every single third-party and the software they use.

What about the Vista Wallpapers? Was one of those perhaps created in a pirated version of photoshop? Dear gawd! Microsoft, how could you!

First: Every national Microsoft is run in the country.... Microsoft China is run in, well, CHina, obviously.

So- who works there? Chinese people. Duh.

If this other blogging service was popular, they would know about it, and likely try to duplicate it Anybody who thinks anybody even in North America said, "OK, go ahead, steal their web code" is just a freaking git.Brian Eno did many of the Microsoft sounds...and was paid rather handsomely for it...Quote from: patio on January 09, 2010, 09:55:16 AM
Brian Eno did many of the Microsoft sounds...and was paid rather handsomely for it...

Eno, isn't that the stuff for relieving gas?For the amount of bread he got paid i guess it would be...Quote from: patio on January 09, 2010, 09:55:16 AM
Brian Eno did many of the Microsoft sounds...and was paid rather handsomely for it...

but: here's the question: Why do not have these supposed Windows XP sounds? I don't have a "tours" folder.

Therefore I conclude that, this is possibly a part of a newer version of Windows Media Player.

In either case; the source is:

http://techrepublic.com.com/5208-11183-0.html?forumID=89&threadID=173539&messageID=1765547

and there are glaring errors there both factual and logical.Quote from: BC_Programmer on January 09, 2010, 10:05:08 AM
but: here's the question: Why do <I> not have these supposed Windows XP sounds? I don't have a "tours" folder.

Therefore I conclude that, this is possibly a part of a newer version of Windows Media Player.

Can't be...I use Winamp the very second I install XP, and never even open WMP, let alone upgrade it. (because I hate it with a passion)

I had these files on my Win XP Pro (I am now running Windows 7 Ultimate as of today, Go Compass Computer store!)

Can you copy/paste the address in the address bar to get there BC??Quote from: Kurtiskain on January 10, 2010, 04:38:44 AM
Can't be...I use Winamp the very second I install XP, and never even open WMP, let alone upgrade it. (because I hate it with a passion)

I had these files on my Win XP Pro (I am now running Windows 7 Ultimate as of today, Go Compass Computer store!)

Can you copy/paste the address in the address bar to get there BC??

I originally tried that. I manually followed the path using cmd when that failed.
"The System cannot find the path specified" is the error when I try to "cd tours" while in the help folder; the tours folder simply doesn't exist.

Either way. The sounds are part of windows media player, and not Windows itself; and even THEN... MS was not the one who created the sounds as the reference I found so boldly claims.

Quote from: BC_Programmer on January 10, 2010, 09:03:32 AM
I originally tried that. I manually followed the path using cmd when that failed.
"The System cannot find the path specified" is the error when I try to "cd tours" while in the help folder; the tours folder simply doesn't exist.

Either way. The sounds are part of windows media player, and not Windows itself; and even THEN... MS was not the one who created the sounds as the reference I found so boldly claims.



While it may be true MS did not make the files themselves, I know a lot of people that absolutely hate piracy. They avoid it and get very upset if they know they have broken the law. (Very Christian families) If they were shown that article it would literally CAUSE them to throw their computer away.

I think it is rather ironic that MS is so against piracy of its own products and ideas, yet other peoples mean absolutely nothing to them, or the people they employ.Quote from: Kurtiskain on January 10, 2010, 03:39:08 PM
I think it is rather ironic that MS is so against piracy of its own products and ideas, yet other peoples mean absolutely nothing to them, or the people they employ.
Like I said. it was the data; the sounds they wanted A:) do you REALLY think they went spelunking at a hex dump of the sound file? and if they do that with sound files, *censored*, they should do it to all files! man, in fact, they should have people doing hex dumps on every single file they ever release on any CD, just in case some random set of characters forms a swear word! the last thing we would want is a Catholic Nun accidentally opening a clipart file in notepad, scrolling down 50 pages, taking 50 bytes from that and accidentally viewing them in a reverse endian format in a Cyrillic codeset, because it spells a dirty word.

Secondly, this doesn't prove anything. I cannot see these files and therefore the only proof they exist is this evidently biassed article. and your word; I'll admit the latter at least carries more weight then a pregnant hippo, but still

And Of Course Microsoft cares more about it's "ideas" and programs and patents, their Microsofts. I mean, what, are they supposed to now build something into hotmail to hueristically ANALYZE conversations to make sure nobody is talking about pirating Adobe programs? No... it's adobe's problem.

And the people you know who are "super-religious", well, don't tell them. you really think they are GOING to accidentally open a deeply nested Wave file by accident and happen to scroll down and somehow make the (weak, I might add, btw)


lastly: every SINGLE article I can find is so full of lies and BS it's hardly even worth reading. None of them understand the basic and quite obvious fact that

MICROSOFT

DOES

NOT

PIRATE

IT

they get somebody ELSE to make the sounds, just like they get other people/artists to create the backdrops and so forth. lastly, Who the smeg gives a *censored*, it's such a crock, I mean, do you find people opening Aiff files on the mac just to find some esoteric and possibly planted reference to some equally esoteric cracking group? I doubt it.

I have THREE installations of XP Pro, SP2 and SP3, and of them have these files. They are NOT installed by the windows XP install.


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