Solve : More Wi-Fi Bans. Not True??

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Answer» Yes. Off topic. In some areas Wi-Fi hosts spots have been banned. Will it get worse? Will it REALLY matter? Never happen in your city? There is a growing concern over "open hit spots" in public areas. The easy access into the internet over a Wi-Fi Hot Spot could enable malicious hackers to steal passwords from users on an open hot spot, it has been said. (Quotations are abridged, see links for full text.) Quote Here in the USA: Feb 28, 2010 http://gizmodo.com/5482141/uk-bill-would-outlaw-open-public-wifi-hotspots The ban comes as part of a bill that seeks to LIMIT copyright infringement, or something. In summary, schools, small businesses and even libraries would have to effectively become their own ISP and manage the WiFi hotspot—or face hefty fines. Even if a shop password-protected their WiFi and posted the PW publicly (as they probably should be doing anyway), this "management" would also entail detailed record keeping, as the bill requires that hotspot providers log users who've been on their network. Sounds fun! A similar but different idea from the UK, Also Feb 28, 2010 Quote http://newtech.aurum3.com/wireless/uk-will-ban-public-wifi-hotspots/ Lilian Edwards, professor of internet law at Sheffield UNIVERSITY said, This is going to be a very unfortunate measure for small businesses, particularly in a recession, many of whom are using open free Wi-Fi very effectively as a way to get the punters in. Even if they password protect, they then have two options — to pay someone like The Cloud to manage it for them, or take responsibility themselves for becoming an ISP effectively, and keep records for everyone they assign connections to, which is an impossible burden for a small café. And if California: Quote August 9, 2010 http://www.mediabistro.com/ebooknewser/california-cafes-unplug-wi-fi-ban-laptops-and-ipads_b1462 California cafes unplug Wi-Fi , ban laptops and iPads Enjoy reading in coffee shops? Better bring your print book if you are in California. Just as Starbucks is beginning to offer free Wi-Fi, some cafes in California are unplugging theirs. Wanting to make their cafes more social and to keep traffic moving, some cafes are getting rid of Wi-Fi all together or relegating it to weekday hours. Canada: Quote http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/story/2010/08/17/wifi-schools.html Ont. teachers reject Wi-Fi ban August 17, 2010 \| Ont. school board won't turn off Wi-Fi Education Minister ...says Ottawa will make a decision within weeks on the safety of Wi-Fi in schools. ... A controversial proposal from a group of Ontario teachers to ban wireless internet technology in schools over concerns it's harming children's health fizzled out .. Yes, that was last year. But it gos on. More Wi-Fi bans. Quote New Bedford officials welcome proposed cyber cafe ban By Dan McDonald July 16, 2011 NEW BEDFORD — House Speaker Robert DeLeo is attempting to ban gambling at so-called "cyber cafes" in the state. Friday, the speaker filed legislation that would do just that. "Owners of these establishments are taking advantage of their patrons and scamming them out of money," said DeLeo in a statement. "This is unacceptable and I look forward to seeing this legislation passed into law." "Cyber cafes" sell Internet time, allowing patrons to PLAY online slots and other games on the premises, according to DeLeo's office. Patrons can then win points in the video games that can be redeemed for cash at the cafe. Never mind that gambling is already outlawed. - Smash the Wi-Fi! Stop already... Quote Canada: ... ignoring the fact that Wifi in no way affects health (if it did, no doubt we would all have died from cosmic rays, or the innumerable amount of radio waves travelling through us all the time from all directions)- there is no reason for there to be Wifi in a school, anyway. I cannot think of a single thing that lends creedence to having wireless internet available in a school. Quote from: Geek-9pm on July 24, 2011, 07:10:54 PM Yes. Off topic. In some areas Wi-Fi hosts spots have been banned. Will it get worse? Will it really matter? You could get a job working for the English press with that kind of sensationalism. Thats why i dont read newspapers (and there internet alternatives)I sleep right next to my wifi router. I have not perceived any tangible effects of mental deterioration. Free WiFi, with a HotSpot Captive Portal and AP isolation solves all the problems mentioned in the first post. AP isolation:http://homecommunity.cisco.com/t5/Wireless-Routers/AP-isolation/td-p/23327 Example of a Captive Portal: www.hotspotsystem.com http://www.skepticnorth.com/2010/08/ontarioswifi-phobia-2/ BC_Programmer, Thanks for the link. That was a good one. And no, I don't believe Wi-Fi devices present any health problem more that any other thing in our modem life. My intent is to show there is a lot of unfounded negative thinking abut WiFi use. It is destructive. Here is a partial l quote from the link given by BC. Quote ... 1) The School Board installs WiFi transmitters in the schools 2) Parents report their kids showing symptoms of headaches, dizziness, nausea, memory loss, hyper activity, insomnia, skin rashes, night sweats, faster heart rates, and problems concentrating. It is assumed that no child anywhere, ever, exhibits these symptoms just by being a kid at a school. ... Using cellphones will microwave your brain.Back again. What caught my eye was the mention of New Bedford. DeLeo is an idiot if he thinks the LusoAmerican community is going to accept it and not find ways around. Wireless at a school wouldn't be bad provided that the server is not connected to the otherwebs.

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Yes. Off topic. In some areas Wi-Fi hosts spots have been banned.
Will it get worse?
Will it REALLY matter?
Never happen in your city?

There is a growing concern over "open hit spots" in public areas. The easy access into the internet over a Wi-Fi Hot Spot could enable malicious hackers to steal passwords from users on an open hot spot, it has been said.
(Quotations are abridged, see links for full text.)
Quote

Here in the USA:
Feb 28, 2010
http://gizmodo.com/5482141/uk-bill-would-outlaw-open-public-wifi-hotspots
The ban comes as part of a bill that seeks to LIMIT copyright infringement, or something. In summary, schools, small businesses and even libraries would have to effectively become their own ISP and manage the WiFi hotspot—or face hefty fines. Even if a shop password-protected their WiFi and posted the PW publicly (as they probably should be doing anyway), this "management" would also entail detailed record keeping, as the bill requires that hotspot providers log users who've been on their network. Sounds fun!

A similar but different idea from the UK, Also Feb 28, 2010 Quote

http://newtech.aurum3.com/wireless/uk-will-ban-public-wifi-hotspots/
Lilian Edwards, professor of internet law at Sheffield UNIVERSITY said, This is going to be a very unfortunate measure for small businesses, particularly in a recession, many of whom are using open free Wi-Fi very effectively as a way to get the punters in. Even if they password protect, they then have two options — to pay someone like The Cloud to manage it for them, or take responsibility themselves for becoming an ISP effectively, and keep records for everyone they assign connections to, which is an impossible burden for a small café.

And if California:
Quote

August 9, 2010
http://www.mediabistro.com/ebooknewser/california-cafes-unplug-wi-fi-ban-laptops-and-ipads_b1462

California cafes unplug Wi-Fi , ban laptops and iPads
Enjoy reading in coffee shops? Better bring your print book if you are in California.
Just as Starbucks is beginning to offer free Wi-Fi, some cafes in California are unplugging theirs. Wanting to make their cafes more social and to keep traffic moving, some cafes are getting rid of Wi-Fi all together or relegating it to weekday hours.

Canada:
Quote

http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/story/2010/08/17/wifi-schools.html
Ont. teachers reject Wi-Fi ban
August 17, 2010 |
Ont. school board won't turn off Wi-Fi
Education Minister ...says Ottawa will make a decision within weeks on the safety of Wi-Fi in schools. ...
A controversial proposal from a group of Ontario teachers to ban wireless internet technology in schools over concerns it's harming children's health fizzled out ..

Yes, that was last year. But it gos on. More Wi-Fi bans.
Quote

New Bedford officials welcome proposed cyber cafe ban
By Dan McDonald
July 16, 2011
NEW BEDFORD — House Speaker Robert DeLeo is attempting to ban gambling at so-called "cyber cafes" in the state.

Friday, the speaker filed legislation that would do just that.

"Owners of these establishments are taking advantage of their patrons and scamming them out of money," said DeLeo in a statement. "This is unacceptable and I look forward to seeing this legislation passed into law."

"Cyber cafes" sell Internet time, allowing patrons to PLAY online slots and other games on the premises, according to DeLeo's office. Patrons can then win points in the video games that can be redeemed for cash at the cafe.

Never mind that gambling is already outlawed. -
Smash the Wi-Fi! Stop already... Quote

Canada:
...

ignoring the fact that Wifi in no way affects health (if it did, no doubt we would all have died from cosmic rays, or the innumerable amount of radio waves travelling through us all the time from all directions)- there is no reason for there to be Wifi in a school, anyway. I cannot think of a single thing that lends creedence to having wireless internet available in a school.
Quote from: Geek-9pm on July 24, 2011, 07:10:54 PM

Yes. Off topic. In some areas Wi-Fi hosts spots have been banned.
Will it get worse?
Will it really matter?

You could get a job working for the English press with that kind of sensationalism.

Thats why i dont read newspapers (and there internet alternatives)I sleep right next to my wifi router. I have not perceived any tangible effects of mental deterioration.
Free WiFi, with a HotSpot Captive Portal and AP isolation solves all the problems mentioned in the first post.
AP isolation:http://homecommunity.cisco.com/t5/Wireless-Routers/AP-isolation/td-p/23327
Example of a Captive Portal: www.hotspotsystem.com http://www.skepticnorth.com/2010/08/ontarioswifi-phobia-2/

BC_Programmer,
Thanks for the link. That was a good one.
And no, I don't believe Wi-Fi devices present any health problem more that any other thing in our modem life. My intent is to show there is a lot of unfounded negative thinking abut WiFi use. It is destructive.
Here is a partial l quote from the link given by BC.
Quote

...
1) The School Board installs WiFi transmitters in the schools
2) Parents report their kids showing symptoms of headaches, dizziness, nausea, memory loss, hyper activity, insomnia, skin rashes, night sweats, faster heart rates, and problems concentrating. It is assumed that no child anywhere, ever, exhibits these symptoms just by being a kid at a school. ...

Using cellphones will microwave your brain.Back again.
What caught my eye was the mention of New Bedford. DeLeo is an idiot if he thinks the LusoAmerican community is going to accept it and not find ways around.

Wireless at a school wouldn't be bad provided that the server is not connected to the otherwebs.

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