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Hi there, As a very lovely Polish young lady at work USED to put it “Canna you ‘elp me!!!”

Just registered to try and salvage my daughters PC - if only to retrieve some of the data.

PC is around 2001 (read this on the memory test screen)

Brief HISTORY: - Computer has been generally "slow at everything" for a year or two i.e. slow to boot, slow to load I.E, just slow,slow,slow. (the James May of PC's.

Earlier this year it would not boot up, so got my nephew to look at it and he got it fired up and got it to repair itself – by getting it to run a program to repair the registry as far as I know, anyway the PC ran for several hours using a copy of something that was loaded onto it when first loaded with the O.S (windows XP)

Well, as D wanted it back we did not do any other work to it, as you might expect from a neglected Pc, it did not get much better, still very slow and all that.

Now it will not “boot up fully” or left to it’s self “not at all”!!!!

Symptoms

Press start button

Screen appears – American megatrends – Amibios © 2001

AV41P005 P4X333-8235 Intel ( r ) Celeron ( r ) CPU. 2.4o GHz

Checking NVram. Update OK

394944 kb OK - this counting usually freezes, at various random values – unless I choose to skip memory test or enter Setup.

If I hit escape to skip memory test – it runs on through a couple of screens listing various drives etc then to a black screen with a white bar runs across the bottom. It then loads the windows XP logo screen and the bar in the middle shows the loading process. This loading often freezes and will not continue.
When it does complete loading the User log on screen appears, so I enter the password and hit enter and it usually just sits there “saying” loading you personal setting and goes no further. If I wait too long to enter the user I.D the keyboard will not work.

On one occasion it did load the desk top but I COULD not do any thing with it.

Several times on boot up I got a “Secondary master drive – atapi incompatable” warning.

So I have unplugged the DVD drive and no longer get the warning (although I accept that this may have been an erroneous warning anyway).

Please could you advise if there is a way to get the beast running long enough to reclaim some of the data and/or work on the PC to make it healthier again?

I do realize that the HHD or other may be terminally sick.

Thanks in advance

Steve and for “M”

PS. in case it is important - the broadband modem has just been removed to fir into another PC for now

Slave Drive Info

For swapping the drive into a working desktop machine to retrieve your important info...
NOTE: The drive you are swapping does NOT need to be able to boot into Windows as the other machine will handle that...Quote from: moonrakermagpie on November 07, 2009, 03:25:02 PM

...Checking NVram. Update OK
394944 kb OK - this counting usually freezes, at various random values – unless I choose to skip memory test or enter Setup...
If it's failing the memory test during the POST (Power On Self Test), the first thing to test is the memory modules.
MemTestHI there, ( on the side - I just love terminator - and Alien )

Two questions, to start that is, I see the banner listing my details....is this something I should be concerned about.

Haven't found out how to do the mem check yet any hand holding at this stage would be accepted.

EDIT... I take it the memtest is done online (am I correct??)...Problem the PC has no modem at the mo...

OK three then!!! If I end up slaveing to another PC do I need to worry about any viruses or the like that may be on the SICKLY HHD.

Many many thanks for your reply.



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OK three then!!! If I end up slaveing to another PC do I need to worry about any viruses or the like that may be on the sickly HHD.

Scan the drive after slaving and before copying/burning any data...Sorry if I am being dense...but...I cannot connect the sick machine to the internet... and even if I refit the modem... I cannot use the desktop to run I.E.

Can I download the Memtest using this PC and save it to a CD and the use it on the sick PC without useing the desktop...i.e using set-up or DOS or something.

Many thanks.Since your computer won't boot, get this:
http://www.memtest.org/#downisoYou had better test the memory modules Quote from: Cottery on November 09, 2009, 10:42:48 PM
You had better test the memory modules

I think that was suggested. Scroll up.Quote from: Computer_Commando on November 07, 2009, 06:59:41 PM
Since your computer won't boot, get this:
http://www.memtest.org/#downiso

Hi there, OK I have create a floppy with memtest 2.1 as the 4.0 would not load.
Stuck it in the A:drive and fired up
Have to skip NVRAM memory test
PC runs and the screen shows values streaming down the left hand side:-

AX:0200
BX:0000
CX:0006
DX:0000
EX:1004

Runs for 30 seconds or a minute, and I can see the numbers changing on the screen, like they are scrolling up.

Then they stop changing, pretty sure that the PC has hung up, although there is a curser flashing on the right of the bottom line, which just happens to be ...DX000

What do you think.

If the PC is hanging.....what was plan "B" again!!!!!

Many thanks

MRMLet MemTest run...2 hours is good.
It will appear to hang from time to time for the long tests...
There are 8 tests altogether and you need the results from all of them.Quote from: patio on November 13, 2009, 06:42:12 AM
Let MemTest run...2 hours is good.
It will appear to hang from time to time for the long tests...
There are 8 tests altogether and you need the results from all of them.

Hi can't get memtest to run from boot again, the only think I can do with the PC is boot into safe mode (F8 and then ESC to skip memory check), from there I choose ADMIN and can boot into safe mode or safe mode + command prompt.

I have on the floppy - Memtest86+ V2.10 (15/11/2008) - Download - Pre-Compiled package for Floppy (DOS - Win) AS THE Memtest86+ V4.00 (22/09/2009) would not load on the floppy.


Do you know the command to type in so I can start memtest from command prompt.

Many thanks

Steve

Boot with the floopy in and it will run...heh



floopy...


I went to school with a kid named Floopy, last name, we used to make Snoopy references about him. I digress...


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