Solve : reusing cpu QUESTION.?

1.	Solve : reusing cpu QUESTION.?
Answer» I currently have a motherboard that's not really usable anymore that has an amd athlon cpu along with the heatsink and fan mounted above it. I plan on moving those things and placing them on a spare motherboard I have. Do I need to put thermalpaste on the middle of that cpu I'm going to reuse? Should I clean up the dry paste that was there on the CPU and the HSF previously if the answer is yes? P.S. This is the first time I'll be dealing with thermal stuff since someone else did the thermal pasting on that cpu originally. Thanks in advance for any help.Yes clean the old paste off and use fresh waste but you need very little. Be very careful lifting the chip from it's socket as it very easy to ben the pins. Make sure you lift the lever catch up before fitting the Chip.Thanks, gonna put these finger nails to work Quote Do I need to put thermalpaste on the middle of that cpu I'm going to reuse? Should I clean up the dry paste that was there on the CPU and the HSF previously if the answer is yes? Yes, you need to clean both the CPU and the heatsink with a certain type of alcohol. Just be careful when doing this, do not use too much and do not rub too hard. Quote Thanks, gonna put these finger nails to work Smiley Whatever you do, do not use any sharp objects to clean. Use only a razor to apply the new thermal paste or better yet, a plastic glove to rub it on. Quote P.S. This is the first time I'll be dealing with thermal stuff since someone else did the thermal pasting on that cpu originally. The Athlon is rather sensitive to removing and adding the heatsink. Be very careful. Do not jiggle the heatsink if it will not let go of the clamps, this may damage the core and render the CPU inoperable.Very interesting, thanks. Can I use a plastic bag as a substitute for that glove to rub the paste on? I'm assuming you're talking about isopropyl alcohol to clean the cpu and heatsink, what should I rub it with? Is a COTTON swab ok? Quote 1. Can I use a plastic bag as a substitute for that glove to rub the paste on? 2. I'm assuming you're talking about isopropyl alcohol to clean the cpu and heatsink 3. what should I rub it with? 4. Is a cotton swab ok? 1. I think that a plastic glove would work better, since the MATERIAL is slightly different.. What I used was a razor, since i couldn't find any plastic gloves at that time. This worked rather well, but I had to be very careful not to scratch the core. 2. Yes, correct. 3. I believe I simply used paper kitchen tissues. 4. Go for lintfree cloth, you don't want to leave anything foreign behind. Not even finger prints. If you have not yet bought CPU paste, try obtaining Arctic Silver. Do be very careful when refitting the heatsink, when I first replaced a cooler on an Athlon XP +2600, I wrecked it entirely by breaking off a piece of the core. This happened when I tried to fit the cooler the wrong way around. (The instructions weren't very clear). Plus, the CPU paste (Which the factory often allready adds) was very hard. It sounded almost like grinding sand. When you hear that sound, you know you're in for a new CPU. You can either keep the manufacturers CPU paste or you can scrape it off from the heatsink and add thermal paste to the CPU only. The choice is yours. If cooling is not a very large issue, I would go with the first as this is the easiest way and COMPLETELY eliminates the chance of you improperly adding the thermal paste. You might want to PRACTISE on some older Socket 7 CPU's first. These are much stronger, but you can get used to adding and removing CPU fans and heatsinks that way. Perhaps even some thermal paste. Saves a lot of heartbeats per minute when working on expensive equipment. Ojas here again, yesterday I did a spring clean on this computer which is about 1 year old the heat sink was full of dust, it's is Celeron and had no troble removing the heat sink but did not remove the Chip just cleaned the top with a cotton bud and tissue carefully as not to move or put too much pressure on it replied the paste just a very little with a plastic scraper clean cleaned the heat sink and fan and then resemble it as you can see it working fine as I am using the computer now.Before I forget; The white block in the middle is the only thing you apply paste to. Do not apply paste anywhere else. Nice catch, Raptor ! patio. Quote Nice catch, Raptor ! patio. Fear is the mind killer, fear is the little death. [email protected] heartbeats per minute Anyway I tried obtaining the Arctic Silver you recommended but most of the places didn't have an effin clue what I was talking about so I had to settle for some generic heat sink silicone in a small packet. Guess that's the price for not living in the U.S. I did however manage to get the plastic gloves and 70% isopropyl rubbing alcohol(whatever you call it). I've got another question, it may seem obvious though. Should I apply the iso alcohol and the paste to the cpu's core when the cpu is already rested in its socket on the motherboard. If not then where's the best place for this to be done? Quote I've got another question, it may seem obvious though. Should I apply the iso alcohol and the paste to the cpu's core when the cpu is already rested in its socket on the motherboard. If not then where's the best place for this to be done? You might damage the pins if you do it outside of its socket. Quote I had to settle for some generic heat sink silicone in a small packet. It is indeed very difficult to obtain. I once asked for Arctic Silver and got a dodgy substance called 'arctic cooling' the salesman was convinced that it was Arctic silver. The funny part was; it did not contain any silver. Will you keep or remove the (possible) heatsink thermal paste? The nice thing about the Heatsink thermal paste is that it is is a (near) perfect square. Basically the plan was to take the cpu out of my dead mobo and put it in the spare mobo. The processor that was in my dead mobo(Athlon 2600+) was more powerful than the one that came with the spare mobo(Athlon 1800+). Anyway I cleaned it up like you said(I think) I used the 70%isopropyl alcohol with my sister's lens cloth on my 2600 cpu and the heatsink. The cpu wasn't so hard but the heatsink had some weirdass pad that was a bit too tough for the alcohol so I scraped it off with my finger(I guess I didn't do the right thing here). Putting paste on the processor was successful. I used that plastic glove like you said. I put it on the small rectangle thingy, rubbing it with the glove makes it easier but I don't know if I got the thickness down. I used the heatsink that came on top the 1800+ on the spare mobo(less dust and no pad to scrape off). Thanks Raptor and ojas. My eyes lit up when the pc I assembled came on and detected the cpu. Now all I need is a ntfs os. I'm a little concerned about the cpu temp in bios since its about 57C. Beforehand when I used the 1800+ that came strapped to the mobo I was getting 45-47C. I guess the COP will come into play if it gets too hot. Quote 1. The cpu wasn't so hard but the heatsink had some weirdass pad that was a bit too tough for the alcohol so I scraped it off with my finger(I guess I didn't do the right thing here). 2. Putting paste on the processor was successful. I used that plastic glove like you said. I put it on the small rectangle thingy, rubbing it with the glove makes it easier but I don't know if I got the thickness down. I used the heatsink that came on top the 1800+ on the spare mobo(less dust and no pad to scrape off). 3. I'm a little concerned about the cpu temp in bios since its about 57C. Beforehand when I used the 1800+ that came strapped to the mobo I was getting 45-47C. I guess the COP will come into play if it gets too hot. 1. Perhaps a thermal pad was applied instead of CPU paste when the PC was built 2. Equally spread so that you can barely see the core. If you add too much thermal paste, the heatsink will push it away from the core and spread it over the plastic area. 3. Athlons run rather hot compared to other CPU's. I have an +2800 which will runs at 55 or so degrees celcius. Can't get it much lower than that unless I invest a fortune in cooling. Quote I guess the COP will come into play if it gets too hot. The thermal paste may still need to adjust as well. Don't count on it going any lower, though. Maximum operating temperature is 80 degrees celcius for Athlons. Stick to 60 and you'll do fine.

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I currently have a motherboard that's not really usable anymore that has an amd athlon cpu along with the heatsink and fan mounted above it. I plan on moving those things and placing them on a spare motherboard I have.

Do I need to put thermalpaste on the middle of that cpu I'm going to reuse? Should I clean up the dry paste that was there on the CPU and the HSF previously if the answer is yes?

P.S. This is the first time I'll be dealing with thermal stuff since someone else did the thermal pasting on that cpu originally.

Thanks in advance for any help.Yes clean the old paste off and use fresh waste but you need very little. Be very careful lifting the chip from it's socket as it very easy to ben the pins. Make sure you lift the lever catch up before fitting the Chip.Thanks, gonna put these finger nails to work Quote

Do I need to put thermalpaste on the middle of that cpu I'm going to reuse? Should I clean up the dry paste that was there on the CPU and the HSF previously if the answer is yes?

Yes, you need to clean both the CPU and the heatsink with a certain type of alcohol. Just be careful when doing this, do not use too much and do not rub too hard.

Quote

Thanks, gonna put these finger nails to work Smiley

Whatever you do, do not use any sharp objects to clean. Use only a razor to apply the new thermal paste or better yet, a plastic glove to rub it on.

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P.S. This is the first time I'll be dealing with thermal stuff since someone else did the thermal pasting on that cpu originally.

The Athlon is rather sensitive to removing and adding the heatsink. Be very careful. Do not jiggle the heatsink if it will not let go of the clamps, this may damage the core and render the CPU inoperable.Very interesting, thanks.
Can I use a plastic bag as a substitute for that glove to rub the paste on? I'm assuming you're talking about isopropyl alcohol to clean the cpu and heatsink, what should I rub it with? Is a COTTON swab ok? Quote

1. Can I use a plastic bag as a substitute for that glove to rub the paste on?
2. I'm assuming you're talking about isopropyl alcohol to clean the cpu and heatsink
3. what should I rub it with?
4. Is a cotton swab ok?

1. I think that a plastic glove would work better, since the MATERIAL is slightly different.. What I used was a razor, since i couldn't find any plastic gloves at that time. This worked rather well, but I had to be very careful not to scratch the core.

2. Yes, correct.

3. I believe I simply used paper kitchen tissues.

4. Go for lintfree cloth, you don't want to leave anything foreign behind. Not even finger prints.

If you have not yet bought CPU paste, try obtaining Arctic Silver.

Do be very careful when refitting the heatsink, when I first replaced a cooler on an Athlon XP +2600, I wrecked it entirely by breaking off a piece of the core. This happened when I tried to fit the cooler the wrong way around. (The instructions weren't very clear). Plus, the CPU paste (Which the factory often allready adds) was very hard. It sounded almost like grinding sand. When you hear that sound, you know you're in for a new CPU.

You can either keep the manufacturers CPU paste or you can scrape it off from the heatsink and add thermal paste to the CPU only. The choice is yours. If cooling is not a very large issue, I would go with the first as this is the easiest way and COMPLETELY eliminates the chance of you improperly adding the thermal paste.

You might want to PRACTISE on some older Socket 7 CPU's first. These are much stronger, but you can get used to adding and removing CPU fans and heatsinks that way. Perhaps even some thermal paste. Saves a lot of heartbeats per minute when working on expensive equipment. Ojas here again, yesterday I did a spring clean on this computer which is about 1 year old the heat sink was full of dust, it's is Celeron and had no troble removing the heat sink but did not remove the Chip just cleaned the top with a cotton bud and tissue carefully as not to move or put too much pressure on it replied the paste just a very little with a plastic scraper clean cleaned the heat sink and fan and then resemble it as you can see it working fine as I am using the computer now.Before I forget;

The white block in the middle is the only thing you apply paste to.

Do not apply paste anywhere else.
Nice catch, Raptor !

patio. Quote

Nice catch, Raptor !

patio.

Fear is the mind killer, fear is the little death. [email protected] heartbeats per minute

Anyway I tried obtaining the Arctic Silver you recommended but most of the places didn't have an effin clue what I was talking about so I had to settle for some generic heat sink silicone in a small packet. Guess that's the price for not living in the U.S. I did however manage to get the plastic gloves and 70% isopropyl rubbing alcohol(whatever you call it).

I've got another question, it may seem obvious though.
Should I apply the iso alcohol and the paste to the cpu's core when the cpu is already rested in its socket on the motherboard. If not then where's the best place for this to be done?

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I've got another question, it may seem obvious though.
Should I apply the iso alcohol and the paste to the cpu's core when the cpu is already rested in its socket on the motherboard. If not then where's the best place for this to be done?

You might damage the pins if you do it outside of its socket.

Quote

I had to settle for some generic heat sink silicone in a small packet.

It is indeed very difficult to obtain. I once asked for Arctic Silver and got a dodgy substance called 'arctic cooling' the salesman was convinced that it was Arctic silver. The funny part was; it did not contain any silver.

Will you keep or remove the (possible) heatsink thermal paste? The nice thing about the Heatsink thermal paste is that it is is a (near) perfect square.

Basically the plan was to take the cpu out of my dead mobo and put it in the spare mobo. The processor that was in my dead mobo(Athlon 2600+) was more powerful than the one that came with the spare mobo(Athlon 1800+). Anyway I cleaned it up like you said(I think) I used the 70%isopropyl alcohol with my sister's lens cloth on my 2600 cpu and the heatsink. The cpu wasn't so hard but the heatsink had some weirdass pad that was a bit too tough for the alcohol so I scraped it off with my finger(I guess I didn't do the right thing here).

Putting paste on the processor was successful. I used that plastic glove like you said. I put it on the small rectangle thingy, rubbing it with the glove makes it easier but I don't know if I got the thickness down. I used the heatsink that came on top the 1800+ on the spare mobo(less dust and no pad to scrape off).

Thanks Raptor and ojas.
My eyes lit up when the pc I assembled came on and detected the cpu. Now all I need is a ntfs os.
I'm a little concerned about the cpu temp in bios since its about 57C. Beforehand when I used the 1800+ that came strapped to the mobo I was getting 45-47C. I guess the COP will come into play if it gets too hot. Quote

1. The cpu wasn't so hard but the heatsink had some weirdass pad that was a bit too tough for the alcohol so I scraped it off with my finger(I guess I didn't do the right thing here).

2. Putting paste on the processor was successful. I used that plastic glove like you said. I put it on the small rectangle thingy, rubbing it with the glove makes it easier but I don't know if I got the thickness down. I used the heatsink that came on top the 1800+ on the spare mobo(less dust and no pad to scrape off).

3. I'm a little concerned about the cpu temp in bios since its about 57C. Beforehand when I used the 1800+ that came strapped to the mobo I was getting 45-47C. I guess the COP will come into play if it gets too hot.

1. Perhaps a thermal pad was applied instead of CPU paste when the PC was built

2. Equally spread so that you can barely see the core. If you add too much thermal paste, the heatsink will push it away from the core and spread it over the plastic area.

3. Athlons run rather hot compared to other CPU's.

I have an +2800 which will runs at 55 or so degrees celcius. Can't get it much lower than that unless I invest a fortune in cooling.

Quote

I guess the COP will come into play if it gets too hot.

The thermal paste may still need to adjust as well. Don't count on it going any lower, though. Maximum operating temperature is 80 degrees celcius for Athlons. Stick to 60 and you'll do fine.

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