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I starting to have problems with my server again.
It's a AMD64 3000+.

I run Windows2000Pro + sp4.
The graphic card is a ATI Radeon9200 SE.128mb
and the motherboard is a ASUS K8V-X.

and the worst is that I'm not even getting a BSOD,
he screen just goes black.

How ever, you can still hear the FANS in the computer working,
the power led on the computer is still on, so the PSU seems ok.

But everything closes down. If you have music on, it stops,
and you can't reach the computer even through the LAN,
so it is in what you could call a "frozen state".

And the CPU is about 50° so its ok, not over heating.

The evenlog doesn't show anything at all and it doesn't leave any trace in drwtsn32 either.

Graphic card error ? Motherboard failure ?

Any clues ? Help please !!!  Personally I would run a Live Linux CD to determine if it is hardware or software. It's free, just takes a few minutes and it's simple. If it boots and runs -> it was your software. Quote

Personally I would run a Live Linux CD to determine if it is hardware or software. It's free, just takes a few minutes and it's simple. If it boots and runs -> it was your software.



Hm, but I forgot to write, it doesn't happen that often, only like every other day or so.

In between it works just fine... but it's very annoying when it happens as you
loose what you are doing at the moment, when it happens. !Need to find out if it's hardware or software somehow, That's my take.I just updated the video card drivers, just because I have really nothing to loose in this stage.
If I have like sh*t luck, it could be it, not that I think so.

How ever I'm 99,9% sure that it's hardware.

But what I need to know is, what part ?
the video card or motherboard ?

I still got warranty left on the motherboard but not on the video card.

The video card would be much easier to replace though,
but I don't want to buy a new one unless I'm about 99,9% sure it is that what causes this problem.

So if anyone is familiar with this problem or have heard about a similar case, please let me know !  Can you check temp on the card? Was is a recent install? Remove and reseat everything, check for card wiggle in the slot. Is the power suplly adequate for all of the hardware installed? Can you check with a borrowed PSU for a few DAYS?

I'm trying to think of easy things to check (and free too)

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Can you check temp on the card? Was is a recent install? Remove and reseat everything, check for card wiggle in the slot. Is the power suplly adequate for all of the hardware installed? Can you check with a borrowed PSU for a few days?

I'm trying to think of easy things to check (and free too)

 


The temp on the video card ?
No, but the motherboard temperature is 37°C

No it was not a recent install, everything have worked with the current configuration earlier for at least 6 months.

Yes, the powersuply is adequate and only about 7 months old also.

There shouldn't be any wiggle anywhere, I have built all my computers my self and I'm sure it is correctly set.

How ever, thanks for the advice,   but as I said earlier, it's most probably the motherboard or video card.

I just need to know which ?Try another video card, or put the old one back in for a few days?   Old one ?

The thing is, I'm don't think I have a spare video card,
my last one broke loooooong time ago.

But I'll look into it tomorrow and see if I can find another old one somewhere ...  Maybe you can borrow some generic PCI card from someone with an old system sitting idle?Crystallize:

Some guesses as to other possible causes:

1. CONFLICT between two hardware devices or two programs can lock up the operating system infrequently.  It's really hard to determine which two devices or programs cause the conflicts in these cases, but it is usually the latest device you added or the latest program you installed.  Try removing the latest software application or hardware device to see if the problem goes away.

2. A small crack in the motherboard that the naked eye cannot see may cause a short every once in awhile.  One way that i've read to take care of this is to loosen one of the screws that holds the motherboard to the case.  This is supposed to relieve the pressure on the board that widens the crack.  This is only a temporary solution, however.  The permanent fix is to replace the motherboard.

3. A metal screw that holds the motherboard to the case, if it touches one of the lines of circuits, may cause a short circuit in the motherboard.  The way to take care of this is to put a small PAPER washer between the  offending screw and the motherboard.  

4. The power supply may be dying hard.  Solution: Replace the power supply with one with the same or more power.

5. A virus may also be causing the problem.

I'm sure there are many other possible causes, but these are all that come to mind at the moment.

Blessings to you,
Doc
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Maybe you can borrow some generic PCI card from someone with an old system sitting idle?


Nope, I don't and I have decided to wait with trying the other VGA card if the re installation of the drivers helped any first.
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Thanks for you suggestions pcdoc4christ
I'll answer them in order...

1. I have not really installed any new software lately. And no hardware at all for a half a year.
But I did notice one little odd thing anyway. I checked in the display properties and it SHOWED that
there was two VGA cards installed, one secondary. I'm not sure if this should be, but I don't think
I don't have two on any other computer, to add, the mother board does not have a built in VGA.



How ever, I tried to uninstall all graphic drivers and then reinstall only one, but it installed both automatically simultaneously.


2. I could try this, how ever, I'm putting off pottering with the hardware until I have no more options.

3. No I checked this when I assembled the computer.

4. I'm leaning against this solution in the first hand.

5. No I have no viruses on the computer, for sure.

So thanks for your suggestions, I may have use of this suggestion nr. 2 if nothing works, I have never heard that solution before. Could be worth trying.
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Also what do you think about nr. 2, the 2 drivers ?


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