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Solve : The app 'Find My Phone' 'for Apple is harmfull.? |
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Answer» This is dictation. They expected to be used for finding a very expensive piece of computer equipment, such as a high-end laptop. People are not using Find my *Phone* and Find my *iPhone* to find a high end laptop, as those work exclusively with Android and Apple phones and tablets. (For Apple, they have a *separate* "Find My Mac" service). So now we know you don't even understand what the apps do or how they work. That's probably why you had to provide a useless analogy. "Find my Phone" and "Find my IPhone" I might add, are similar useless at locating a missing pet. "Find my Phone" and "Find my iPhone" allow you to use the Phone's GPS to keep track of where it is, and you can see a general area of where it is when you lose it. Can be very useful if you've misplaced it during say a trip and it could have been misplaced in any number of places you had been. The phone(s) can also be locked remotely, which means if it was stolen your private data cannot be accessed. It can also take pictures using the phone's camera. If the phone is stolen, rather than simply misplaced, then you can track where it goes. As far as actually recovering the phone, having GPS tracking/location information will typically be enough to encourage local police to assist in recovery. Since most thefts are thefts of opportunity, the appearance of police with you has a substantially better chance of them returning it, usually with some barely plausible but not easily disprovable story like "Oh I was just holding it for you". The instances where the feature is less useful are the criminals who know what they are doing. The Find my iPhone and Find my Phone services only work if the phone is turned on and has an Internet connection. Removing the SIM card and not connecting the phone to the Internet, and then resetting it, is enough to evade the utility. However those are actually far less common. Quote First of all, you should never leave an expensive laptop in some place where could be easily lost or stolen. That is just stupid.Ahh of course. That's theft solved! Similarly, one can avoid being murdered if you don't let people kill you. Would you use TNT to rid your house of rodents? My point is that i dotes not work. It does not do what is needed in a safe way. My rant is about the Apple app. Find My iPhone and Find My Phone Sound the same. Quote from: Geek-9pm on February 18, 2019, 07:44:14 PM Would you use TNT to rid your house of rodents?Of course not, however, you've not explained how your analogies are in any way relevant to the App/utilities in question. Quote My point is that I dotes not work.Then your point is wrong, as it functions as intended for all the problem scenarios it was designed for. Quote It does not do what is needed in a safe way.What does it do that is unsafe and what is the safe way that it should be doing it? Quote Then your point is wrong, as it functions as intended for all the problem scenarios it was designed for.Does that INCLUDE legal advice on current law about stolen goods? Does it make possible legal recovery of stolen goods? Ca nit protect a vigilant owner from a hostile thief? At best the software could be part of a plan approved by local police. I read the Apple documentation and found no help on howto recovery a stolen laptop. https://support.apple.com/kb/ph2698?locale=en_US In fact, it is hard to prove laptop ownership. You can not just go up to a house and walk in and find your laptop. You, not the thief will spend the night in jail. This article was published a few months ago. I should have been 8 years ago. Quote Report your lost or stolen device to local law enforcement. Law enforcement might request the serial number of your device. Find your device serial number.You also need to read this: Q. stolen iphone cops won't go to address Quote Sorry, but it’s been posted here before. Police simply don’t consider a find my iPhone hit just cause to go to someone’s home, and no court will issue a warrant based on just that anyway, so they’d not be able to go in or do anything. The location is considered approximate, and tells nothing about whom there may actually posses the device giving the location data.The GPS system can not identify the enemy. Quote from: Geek-9pm on February 18, 2019, 10:49:48 PM Does that include legal advice on current law about stolen goods? Does part of the function of "find my iphone" include legal advice on current law regarding stolen goods? No. That doesn't even make any sense. Quote Does it make possible legal recovery of stolen goods? Yes. I quite literally stated as much in my previous post. Quote Can it protect a vigilant owner from a hostile thief? As I mentioned, if a "hostile thief" is somebody who has a good idea how to circumvent the technology than no, it doesn't offer much protection. If a phone is lost, "Find my iPhone" can be used to find it if it was misplaced. That can be particularly useful if one doesn't notice it is missing for a while- it could have easily been misplaced in any number of places. Quote I read the Apple documentation and found no help on howto recovery a stolen laptop. You are looking at the documentation for how to use the software. From https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT204756 "If you believe that your Mac was stolen, contact your local law enforcement." From https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT201472 "Report your lost or stolen device to local law enforcement. Law enforcement might request the serial number of your device. Find your device serial number." Quote In fact, it is hard to prove laptop ownership. You can not just go up to a house and walk in and find your laptop. You, not the thief will spend the night in jail.Alright? I never stated otherwise. As I noted, and you will probably ignore again, if the device is simply lost, and not stolen, the software can be used to find where it is. When iPhones and laptops get stolen, it's usually a crime of opportunity, without much sophisticated planning. Somebody with loose morals sees an opportunity, like a iPhone or laptop that is unattended and swipes it. The appearance of the owner with confident claims that "they know they have it" is often enough for them to go "oh you misunderstand, I saw it was left alone and I kept it safe!" and they return it. Oftentimes local law enforcement will happily help by merely being present- That can often be enough to make the thief capitulate. (This isn't always the case, and there are plenty of examples of both). The results of the App itself are evidence but it is not enough on it's own. If the thief answers the door with the stolen phone in their hand which can be made to make sounds through the "Find my iPhone" App by you then that could very well meet the criteria- Not to mention a thief stupid enough to answer the door with something they just stole in their hand isn't likely to have a full grasp of the law regarding this situation. It's much less useful against the far less common thief who actually knows how to "protect" themselves to prevent you from being able to do anything. In those situations of course there isn't much you or law enforcement can do. the granularity of the GPS is not enough to count as probable cause for any sort of search. But that happens far less often, and such thieves are usually looking to steal and then resell the product to make money, and a Phone or laptop that was connected up with the "Find my iPhone" and "Find my Mac" feature becomes mostly worthless for that. An iPhone can be locked remotely. It actually turns out that you cannot actually forcibly reset or unlock it either- the icloud lock has to be released first. Aside from securing your personal data, That makes the phones worthless to them- Certainly far more worthless than a phone that doesn't have "find my iPhone" prepared on it, which can be fairly effortlessly reset and then resold on eBay.Struggling to see what the issue is here, the app isn't designed for people to track down thieves of stolen devices and to attempt to get the device back themselves. If people are using it for that then it's hardly the fault of the app. I've used the Android device locator many times, even for something as simple as me going out somewhere and realising I don't have my phone, it's been great for the peace of mind to be able to check that I have in fact just left it at home and not dropped it en route. It has already saved me before when I was in university and my phone must have fallen out my pocket in a lecture and got caught in the folding seat. I only noticed that I didn't have it about an hour after I'd left the lecture by which point I'd already GONE for lunch, hung around with others and wandered all over the campus in and out of different buildings. Realistically I could have dropped my phone in any of those locations however I was able to run to a PC and locate the exact building that the phone was in. I was then able to call security to let me into the building where I set off an alarm on the phone to allow me to find it. That's not the first time either, back in high school I must have left my phone sitting on a desk and only realised later that night when I was back at home. I stupidly didn't have a device locator app installed (back then it wasn't built into the OS, think this was back in the days when I was running Android 2.2 "Froyo") but I was able to use "Plan B" from Lookout which I was able to install remotely and get the device's location which showed that it was somewhere around the area of the school office. Turns out that it hadn't been stolen and someone had handed it in to lost property. It's also not just about the ability to locate the device. With Android Device Manager I can also lock the device down to require my Google Account to unlock while displaying a message on the screen (such as with my contact details) or if it comes to it and I find the device has been stolen, I can at least remotely wipe it to clear off any sensitive data.camerongray, Thank you. Your post helps balance this topic. As you said, the app was not designed to catch criminals. Still, in some cases, it has done that. My experience was very negative to the extreme. Two policemen came to my door and stated pounding the front door at 2 am in the morning. They claimed I was holding a stolen Apple laptop on my property.. That was not true. The scenario became tense. They insisted to going over all of my halt acre annoying other three other family members living on the back of my property. The laptop was never found and we never heard anymore about it. No explanation. They said the app was 'Find My Phone'** and did not provided enough detail to allow me to find out what was going on. And they had guns. ** In California English 'Find My Phone' and 'Find My iPhone' are acoustically equal. Thant is why I call it by what I heard. The also said an 'Apple Laptop'. I have no idea what an Apple laptop is. Anyway, no strange device has shown up on my router. All devices found in the router's list are things that belong to our family. My gut feeling is to blame the app, not my Comcast router. But I might be wrong. I wasted half an hour trying to speak with Comcast during business hours. Is that evidence that Comcast does not want to address this issue? What does comcast have to do with your story?BC, I will answer the question. But first... Quote Does the MacBook Pro have a GPS chip inside of it?https://www.quora.com/Does-the-MacBook-Pro-have-a-GPS-chip-inside-of-it The Comcast router gives out misleading information. This was considered before on other sites. The router has a 'virtual Wi-Fi' that appears to be a public hot spot. It gives out bad information about the location of any device that uses the Wi-Fi for location. Don't get me started on that topic. I called Comcast (AKA Xfinity) and made a deal to upgrade me and shut off wireless for everybody. I think this is the end of the story. More detail. Comcast and Xfinity are the same. One name is mostly for cable TV, the other for Internet services. My Comcast router can also have a 'virtual wireless' gateway for guests. Only Comcast has control over this.It has been ranted elsewhere. One would think con tarty to common law. In effect, they have a lemonade stand on my front lawn. I talked at length to a service representative. Now the thing does not participate in the Xnfinity stuff. Below is a screen shot. I am CASA-4965 at about -25 db and the Xfinity thing is down at -82 db. That means some body else is hosting the thing. But not me anymore. I am waiting to serif the cops go to one of the neighbors and baton the door at 2 AM in the morning. Just making a jest. It is not funny at all. |
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