Solve : trying to complete upgrade?

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Answer» old system GQ 1.3 Gr AMD proc. 1.3 ram win XP. Replaced CPU with AMD phenom ll x4 840 CPU. new Asus mother board m4n68t-m v. and a couple sticks 1600 ram. I got power but the CD wont open (lights on) and the monitor is black no boot. I would really like to play with this system since it's been 7 years since any upgrades.Your PSU probably doesn't support the power requirements of the motherboard and the Phenom. It would help if you posted the make of your PSU here. on a side tip-disconnect any case fans and the hard drive to see if the system POSTs so we can rule out a hardware error.Power unit is ATX 12v model# sp-450y 450w disconnected hdd still no boot. on off and reset button not working either. unless I hold on/off switch down then it will shut down,simulates problem on a SPARE test rig at hand, identical to my primary rig i find i can simulate the exact same problem in 2 cases: 1) graphics card isn't inserted properly 2) psu cannot handle the power required/psu 12v connector isn't inserted correctly./CPU voltage set too high. is an external graphics card plugged in? no external graphics Was reviewing manuals for old and new, Original hard drive is UltraDMA 66/100/133, New mobo manual states supports Serial ATA 3Gbs amd RAID support. Would this make a diff?UltraDMA is an ATA file transfer protocol for your HDD-I see that your original HDD speeds are the new version of IDE, whereas your Asus mobo's 3GB/s is designed to be used with recent SATA drives. you will need an adapter to use your hard drive, but even then, you are limited to 133 Megabytes/second file transfer speed. I doubt you would need RAID, though, because the slow file transfer speed would be the big limitation. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID http://searchstorage.techtarget.com/definition/Ultra-DMAWoW...Quote from: Transfusion on July 06, 2011, 07:48:18 PM UltraDMA is an ATA file transfer protocol for your HDD-I see that your original HDD speeds are the new version of IDE, whereas your Asus mobo's 3GB/s is designed to be used with recent SATA drives. Or, they could just use the available EIDE CONNECTION. According to the Motherboard specifications I found it appears their "new" motherboard has one standard IDE connection. It might be required for the Optical drive though which could make setup tricky. Quote but even then, you are limited to 133 Megabytes/second file transfer speed. I doubt you would need RAID, though, because the slow file transfer speed would be the big limitation. Very few drives can saturate the 133 mbs. Only extremely fast (read 1500rpm) can saturate the 133mbps limit of ATA-7, and that is only in burst mode. And of course the other "contender"- SSD's- can't be purchased for PATA anyway. Quote UltraDMA is an ATA file transfer protocol for your HDD it's not really a protocol insomuch as it is a method of transfer (using Direct Memory Access rather then programmed I/O) and it certainly has no concept of what a file is. Installed new serial ata 350g hd. Hooked it up and pushed the button annnnnnnnnd....it flashes the Asus screen real fast twice and says to reboot and select proper boot device or insert boot media in selected boot device and press a KEY. I rebooted and tapped DEL until I got into BIOS. It recognizes my cd and new hard drive but has [brackets] around them. I moved the cd in first postion and saved. It reboots and does the same thing. almost forgot it still shows NO SYNC on the monitorMaybe CDROM drive is no good.No Sync means that the monitor is not receiving any INPUT while rebooting, and is normal. Insert boot media in selected boot device means your CD ROM drive has no CD inside. You cannot install windows with a cd rom drive-i presume DVD?Didn't even notice it's all DVD's. Just goes to show ya how long it s been since upgrade around here thanks again, may be problem with the computer memory ram...i recently upgraded my computer's memory and it did actually solved my problem...

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old system GQ 1.3 Gr AMD proc. 1.3 ram win XP. Replaced CPU with AMD phenom ll x4 840 CPU. new Asus mother board m4n68t-m v. and a couple sticks 1600 ram. I got power but the CD wont open (lights on) and the monitor is black no boot. I would really like to play with this system since it's been 7 years since any upgrades.Your PSU probably doesn't support the power requirements of the motherboard and the Phenom. It would help if you posted the make of your PSU here. on a side tip-disconnect any case fans and the hard drive to see if the system POSTs so we can rule out a hardware error.Power unit is ATX 12v model# sp-450y 450w
disconnected hdd still no boot. on off and reset button not working either. unless I hold on/off switch down then it will shut down,*simulates problem on a SPARE test rig at hand, identical to my primary rig* i find i can simulate the exact same problem in 2 cases:
1) graphics card isn't inserted properly
2) psu cannot handle the power required/psu 12v connector isn't inserted correctly./CPU voltage set too high.

is an external graphics card plugged in? no external graphics
Was reviewing manuals for old and new, Original hard drive is UltraDMA 66/100/133, New mobo manual states supports Serial ATA 3Gbs amd RAID support. Would this make a diff?UltraDMA is an ATA file transfer protocol for your HDD-I see that your original HDD speeds are the new version of IDE, whereas your Asus mobo's 3GB/s is designed to be used with recent SATA drives. you will need an adapter to use your hard drive, but even then, you are limited to 133 Megabytes/second file transfer speed. I doubt you would need RAID, though, because the slow file transfer speed would be the big limitation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID
http://searchstorage.techtarget.com/definition/Ultra-DMAWoW...Quote from: Transfusion on July 06, 2011, 07:48:18 PM

UltraDMA is an ATA file transfer protocol for your HDD-I see that your original HDD speeds are the new version of IDE, whereas your Asus mobo's 3GB/s is designed to be used with recent SATA drives.

Or, they could just use the available EIDE CONNECTION. According to the Motherboard specifications I found it appears their "new" motherboard has one standard IDE connection. It might be required for the Optical drive though which could make setup tricky.

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but even then, you are limited to 133 Megabytes/second file transfer speed. I doubt you would need RAID, though, because the slow file transfer speed would be the big limitation.

Very few drives can saturate the 133 mbs. Only extremely fast (read 1500rpm) can saturate the 133mbps limit of ATA-7, and that is only in burst mode. And of course the other "contender"- SSD's- can't be purchased for PATA anyway.

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UltraDMA is an ATA file transfer protocol for your HDD

it's not really a protocol insomuch as it is a method of transfer (using Direct Memory Access rather then programmed I/O) and it certainly has no concept of what a file is.

Installed new serial ata 350g hd. Hooked it up and pushed the button annnnnnnnnd....it flashes the Asus screen real fast twice and says to reboot and select proper boot device or insert boot media in selected boot device and press a KEY.
I rebooted and tapped DEL until I got into BIOS. It recognizes my cd and new hard drive but has [brackets] around them.
I moved the cd in first postion and saved. It reboots and does the same thing.

almost forgot it still shows NO SYNC on the monitorMaybe CDROM drive is no good.No Sync means that the monitor is not receiving any INPUT while rebooting, and is normal.

Insert boot media in selected boot device means your CD ROM drive has no CD inside.
You cannot install windows with a cd rom drive-i presume DVD?Didn't even notice it's all DVD's.
Just goes to show ya how long it s been since upgrade around here

thanks again, may be problem with the computer memory ram...i recently upgraded my computer's memory and it did actually solved my problem...

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