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Answer» hello again... once more i've discovered a problem which i'm unable to fix myself. i recently loaded a game onto my wife's laptop, and the patches are un-defragable using my AusLogics defrag app. The hard drive shows 20.39 GB used and 13.71 GB free, and the files which i cannot defrag are 3.57 GB, 817 MB, 465 MB, 432 MB, and 692 MB. i've already gone through and deleted everything i could, and i don't understand why none of these files can be defrag'd with 13GB free... any help you can give me, as always, is greatly appreciated. it's a Dell Inspiron running XP SP2, and the swap FILE is at the max now as i read somewhere else that that might help, but it didn't. i think it's at 4095 MB or something like that. not sure what other info you would need on this. oh, and Disk Cleanup showed something minimal like 800 kb that could be cleaned. i'm pretty strict on my defrag schedule, and was very displeased when my defrag after game installation and patching showed 17.59% defragmentation after many runs and deleting everything i could find that could be deleted. before game installation and patching, it was probably somewhere AROUND 0.12% defragmentation, and if possible i'd like to return it to something near that without having to delete our game. THANKS in advance for any advice you can give me on this.Some files, like swap file can't be defragged.um... but i'm not trying to defrag the swap file.3.57GB part, which can't be defragged, looks like a right size for swap file.i must be misunderstanding the term, then. i thought the swap file was Windows' virtual memory allocation. so, if i can't defrag the big file, what's up with the smaller ones? Quote i thought the swap file was Windows' virtual memory allocation This is exactly what it is, however on a SECOND guess I may be wrong. It looks too big. How much RAM do you have, and what size is virtual memory set to (or is it handled by Windows?)?it's got 1 GB of RAM, and i read somewhere that if your system can't defrag it might mean you have too little virtual memory and to increase it, so i bumped the swap file up to the maximum, which is 4095 MB.In this case, it looks like I was right. That almost 4 GB chunk must be VM. However... Quote i read somewhere that if your system can't defrag it might mean you have too little virtual memory This is some nonsense. With today's amounts of real RAM, you really don't need that much of VM (some, with big amount of RAM, claim, they have VM set to ZERO, but I'm not convinced, it's right). Normally VM should be 1-1.5 times of real RAM, so in your case 1.5GB is plenty. What about those other chunks? They're most likely some files in use, like system files, however, those chunks look pretty big. Try to defrag in Safe Mode, and see how it goes...defrag'd in safe mode, and one of the five files defrag'd, but not the other four. as for what KIND of files they are, the 3.57GB file is a game file, a .mpq, as is the 432.8MB file, and the other two are patch files for the game. none of them are virtual memory. my final defrag report shows one 3.57GB .mpq file, one 432.8MB .mpq file, one 465MB .exe patch file and one 692MB .exe patch file for which free space was not found with (now) 14.64 GB free and 15.25% fragmentation total after defrag. hope that helps Quote which is 4095 MB =~ 4GB As I said, you don't need such a huge swap file.right, i've lowered that back to original specs, but is there something i can do about the game files that won't defrag?Try to run JkDefrag: http://www.kessels.com/JkDefrag/, and see, if it changes anything...thanks, will try that now.no dice, still 15% fragmented Another chunks of your HD, which won't defrag is System Restore, and I believe Outlook Express files, if they're not compacted... Anyway... After running Disk Defragmenter click on Analise. Select View Report and click on Save As and save. Now find VolumeC.txt in your My Documents folder and post a copy.

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hello again... once more i've discovered a problem which i'm unable to fix myself. i recently loaded a game onto my wife's laptop, and the patches are un-defragable using my AusLogics defrag app. The hard drive shows 20.39 GB used and 13.71 GB free, and the files which i cannot defrag are 3.57 GB, 817 MB, 465 MB, 432 MB, and 692 MB. i've already gone through and deleted everything i could, and i don't understand why none of these files can be defrag'd with 13GB free... any help you can give me, as always, is greatly appreciated.

it's a Dell Inspiron running XP SP2, and the swap FILE is at the max now as i read somewhere else that that might help, but it didn't. i think it's at 4095 MB or something like that. not sure what other info you would need on this. oh, and Disk Cleanup showed something minimal like 800 kb that could be cleaned. i'm pretty strict on my defrag schedule, and was very displeased when my defrag after game installation and patching showed 17.59% defragmentation after many runs and deleting everything i could find that could be deleted. before game installation and patching, it was probably somewhere AROUND 0.12% defragmentation, and if possible i'd like to return it to something near that without having to delete our game. THANKS in advance for any advice you can give me on this.Some files, like swap file can't be defragged.um... but i'm not trying to defrag the swap file.3.57GB part, which can't be defragged, looks like a right size for swap file.i must be misunderstanding the term, then. i thought the swap file was Windows' virtual memory allocation. so, if i can't defrag the big file, what's up with the smaller ones? Quote

i thought the swap file was Windows' virtual memory allocation

This is exactly what it is, however on a SECOND guess I may be wrong. It looks too big.
How much RAM do you have, and what size is virtual memory set to (or is it handled by Windows?)?it's got 1 GB of RAM, and i read somewhere that if your system can't defrag it might mean you have too little virtual memory and to increase it, so i bumped the swap file up to the maximum, which is 4095 MB.In this case, it looks like I was right. That almost 4 GB chunk must be VM.
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i read somewhere that if your system can't defrag it might mean you have too little virtual memory

This is some nonsense. With today's amounts of real RAM, you really don't need that much of VM (some, with big amount of RAM, claim, they have VM set to ZERO, but I'm not convinced, it's right).
Normally VM should be 1-1.5 times of real RAM, so in your case 1.5GB is plenty.

What about those other chunks? They're most likely some files in use, like system files, however, those chunks look pretty big.
Try to defrag in Safe Mode, and see how it goes...defrag'd in safe mode, and one of the five files defrag'd, but not the other four. as for what KIND of files they are, the 3.57GB file is a game file, a .mpq, as is the 432.8MB file, and the other two are patch files for the game. none of them are virtual memory.

my final defrag report shows one 3.57GB .mpq file, one 432.8MB .mpq file, one 465MB .exe patch file and one 692MB .exe patch file for which free space was not found with (now) 14.64 GB free and 15.25% fragmentation total after defrag. hope that helps

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which is 4095 MB

=~ 4GB
As I said, you don't need such a huge swap file.right, i've lowered that back to original specs, but is there something i can do about the game files that won't defrag?Try to run JkDefrag: http://www.kessels.com/JkDefrag/, and see, if it changes anything...thanks, will try that now.no dice, still 15% fragmented Another chunks of your HD, which won't defrag is System Restore, and I believe Outlook Express files, if they're not compacted...
Anyway...
After running Disk Defragmenter click on Analise. Select View Report and click on Save As and save. Now find VolumeC.txt in your My Documents folder and post a copy.

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