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Answer» US charges Chinese with hacking. 23 minutes agoNothing will come of this...The US does the same thing. We just pass secret-obscure laws to do it and that somehow makes us better.I am curious as to what hacking method they used.... how they got in to the sensitive data etc... I am wondering if they have a rogue employee at the sites that allowed for this hack tool to be planted for hacking to remove data or a rogue employee who is stealing it on a hidden portable drive etc and then transferring the data back to china etc. Also.... I had same thoughts of evilfantasy that everyone is out to gain info and the US gets by by passing secret-obscure laws to allow it. Every nation is out for secrets to both stay up to par with everyone else as well as to have the competitive edge. With all the stuff that we outsource, we are pretty much giving away all this data anyways by entrusting sensitive data in an area of the world where our international laws are weak and sometimes dont apply. I have a soreness towards outsourcing as for there is no need to outsource as much as we do. Outsourcing has disolved prior career paths of mine because making money isnt good enough for corporate businesses unless its maximum profit margins and who cares about american jobs that are lost for a few individuals to write themselves hundred million dollar bonus's and pay out the share holders the largest possible dividend on shares. The CEO's figure people will find other jobs somewhere and its not their problem. But with more and more operating this WAY we are giving everything away to other nations to thrive on the greed of few and the suffering of many. There should be a law set that only a certain amount of our GDP can be outsourced and the rest of it is kept within the border. This law should also allow outsourcing of only products that have no secrets and just have simple patent protections against the designs being ripped off. All manufacturing of cutting edge technology should remain here. But..... this still doesnt stop someone from buying a product from the USA and reverse engineering it. Electronic component and electronics designs is a big area of stolen information etc. The CAPACITOR Plague comes to mind with stolen electronic component design info with the bad electrolyte.It's a bit strange in that there is this idea that American Laws and the American Justice system is somehow Global. Are these people in the United States? If not, than the Charges mean nothing. The only way they would mean something is if China had an extradition treaty with the United States- currently, Mainland China does not. And even if it did, if these actions were sanctioned or even encouraged by the government at some level, they wouldn't extradite. United States Laws are only applicable within United States Borders. Beyond that it's International law which is only upheld through treaties and diplomacy. The charges laid forth fall under International Law...not U.S. Law...to assume it's just the petulant U.S. throwing it's weight around again would be short-sighted. That being stated as i said above nothing will come of this. Other than maybe some long standing trade-bickering which will eventually be compromised on...Quote from: PATIO on MAY 20, 2014, 07:32:30 PM The charges laid forth fall under International Law...not U.S. Law...to assume it's just the petulant U.S. throwing it's weight around again would be short-sighted.They are being charged under the United States Code and Laws covering Computer fraud in the District Court of Pennsylvania. Documents here. These are not international laws, and international laws only apply in countries that ratify a treaty, such as the Berne convention. The US will not sign an extradition treaty with China because of their draconian laws. Just imagine what a fiasco that would be. 5 Countries With No U.S. Extradition Treaty 1. Cuba. 2. Mainland China. 3. Morocco. 4. Iran. 5. Nicaragua. China has charged US officials with crimes and wants to prosecute. That may be part of the reason the US leveled these charges against China. It's a stalemate. On top of that China has rejected extradition of Edward Snowden so they surely won't even consider extradition of their military hackers. One of the articles I read had some reasonable speculation that the case was more a "We know what you are doing" type of message being sent to China, and that they probably know a lot more than is being disclosed about what China is doing in this regard.It's political posturing. That we can be sure of. We are like 10 trillion dollars in debt with China so the US needs to think this through pretty good before doing something stupid.Edward Snowden in the news: |
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