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Answer» Riots in Vancouver, B.C Protesting government policies? Fighting unfair taxation or government bills or policies? no. People are setting police cars and merchants (the stores, not the people) on fire and looting... because the Canucks lost a Hockey Game. I mean, come on. "Oh but it was for the Stanley Cup" yes.... and that still doesn't change it. I mean, really, what difference would it MAKE either way to people who aren't directly connected to the team in some way? Now they can't say "the Canucks won the stanley cup" That's the only difference. What pisses me off about this is that it's just so sad that this is so relatively stable compared to other places- like say ,Thailand, North Korea, and so forth- where there is real danger and all protests are done to try to gain more freedoms and stop oppression from the government, or in other places to actually protest the policies of the government which they disagree with, as it is the right in most countries to do. Or, at the very least- a protest- protests, something. Even the most ridiculous protests at least have an idea behind them. This? I wouldn't call it "protesting" it's just rioting. Meanwhile, when people can't find something to get angry over, they make one up. I mean, seriously? the news actually called them "protesters" What are they protesting? Nothing. ugh. On the bright side, when they managed to set two police cars on fire they decided they should stand rather close to it. I'm keen to see what happens when the cars finally explode, no doubt it will be the equivalent of pouring some chlorine in the gene pool. It's happened before, Can't remember where though. I'm fairly sure it was also related to a hockey loss. EDIT: oh, right, guess a source might be helpful http://www.usatoday.com/sports/hockey/nhl/2011-06-16-vancouver-riots_n.htm Also, found out what the other riots I was thinking of were, Vancouver B.C, 1994, when, just like t oday, they lost the Stanley Cup. I seriously am at a loss for words to see the type of things people are willing to get angry about- I guess when you are accommodated in so many other ways you just have to find some way to "get mad".I can't even begin to imagine why people felt this was a reason to riot. Or why it deserves any more than a "shucks" or two. I didn't even realize it was hockey season. Or is it always hockey season in Canada? Quote from: BC_Programmer on June 15, 2011, 10:49:04 PM It's happened before, Can't remember where though. I'm fairly sure it was also related to a hockey loss. Actually it happened in Vancouver - when they lost to the Rangers in '97 And I'm with you guys. I'm a big sports fan - always have been - but my fanaticism ENDS when the game does. I root for a team and salute the winner, regardless of who it is. It's called sportsmanship. These people clearly don't have a live of their own - they live vicariously through their sports heroes. Quote And I'm with you guys. I'm a big sports fan - always have been - but my fanaticism ends when the game does. I root for a team and salute the winner, regardless of who it is. It's called sportsmanship. These people clearly don't have a live of their own - they live vicariously through their sports heroes. Exactly, Like I say- they (the fans) weren't playing the game, whether Vancouver won or lost isn't going to affect them personally, You root for the team, but like you say there is no reason for that to overflow outside the rink/stadium- certainly not ENOUGH to riot about it... I mean, really? Setting police cars on fire... Meanwhile the players themselves might have been dejected but they always seem to take the loss a censored of a lot better than their fans. I still don't understand why the news called them "protesters"... Quote from: CBMatt on June 16, 2011, 03:35:31 PM I can't even begin to imagine why people felt this was a reason to riot. That's basically my take on it. At least riots with a "cause"; government policies, taxation, etc put good use to the "freedom to assemble/protest" rights, but this just makes a mockery out of them. What's next? riots because a local restaurant runs out of ketchup? As BC has related above the reference to the past riot was 1994 "when they lost to the Rangers in '97". My wife made a suggestion today in light of the riots after last night's final game that the mayor of Vancouver should announce that if and whenever the Canucks end up in a Stanley cup playoff final again they will NOT be permitted to have ANY home games. Apparently the greater number of these thugs will be able to be identified due to so many pictures of them having been taken. Given that probably most of them are without financial means now that they expended all their money on the booze they needed to heighten their courage to run amok any court financial penalties will be ineffectual. However i suggest that the total monetary losses once established (including security costs) be apportioned between them all and however long it takes (maybe even up to 50 years ) they be obliged to conduct community services until they have satisfied their obligation to pay back what they caused to be lost.truenorthWell, I remembered it was when the lost to the Rangers. Other than that, what's 3 years give or take Right I am old enough to remember some of the ones that took place in Montreal back in the Maurice Richard/Campbell days. I could be wrong but i don't recollect any riots after games in the U.S. after a Stanley cup final--maybe it is something in our water (which by the way we have so much of).truenorthThe Media labeling them protesters legitimises them.... Turns my stomach. They are nothing but thugs and thieves ... Quote from: patio on June 16, 2011, 06:48:18 PM The Media labeling them protesters legitimises them.... Turns my stomach. They are nothing but thugs and thieves ... Exactly. Quote from: BC_Programmer on June 16, 2011, 04:13:22 PM What's next? riots because a local restaurant runs out of ketchup? Don't even joke about that.Interesting developments- other city citizens are helping nab RIOTERS by "tagging" them in photos and videos that were taken as it happened. from http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2011/06/15/bc-stanley-cup-fans-post-game-7.html Quote The riots shook Vancouver residents, and prompted thousands to sign up to a Facebook campaign that aimed to identify rioters and looters. There is also a campaign underway to get people to clean up the city, beginning Thursday morning. Witnesses were ENCOURAGED by Facebook campaign organizers to post pictures of rioters in the act, in the hopes that they might be recognized and identified. More than 20,000 people had joined by the morning Thursday. "Prosecute the thugs," wrote Lorraine Bennett on the site. "Clearly they hate the Canucks, they hate Vancouver." I can't help but find the image of the Sears store being looted rather humorous, beside the smashed door/window there is a sticker that says "new store hours"; that certainly seems to be the case! Wow, I think that's the first time I've heard of Facebook actually being useful.People will always use excuses to rationalize their actions.Whaddya gonna steal fron Sears for cryin out loud ? ? Quote from: patio on June 18, 2011, 08:19:29 PM Whaddya gonna steal fron Sears for cryin out loud ? ? A washer and a dryer since you got yours clothes so dirty during the riot.

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Riots in Vancouver, B.C

Protesting government policies? Fighting unfair taxation or government bills or policies?

no. People are setting police cars and merchants (the stores, not the people) on fire and looting...

because the Canucks lost a Hockey Game. I mean, come on. "Oh but it was for the Stanley Cup" yes.... and that still doesn't change it. I mean, really, what difference would it MAKE either way to people who aren't directly connected to the team in some way? Now they can't say "the Canucks won the stanley cup" That's the only difference. What pisses me off about this is that it's just so sad that this is so relatively stable compared to other places- like say ,Thailand, North Korea, and so forth- where there is real danger and all protests are done to try to gain more freedoms and stop oppression from the government, or in other places to actually protest the policies of the government which they disagree with, as it is the right in most countries to do. Or, at the very least- a protest- protests, something. Even the most ridiculous protests at least have an idea behind them. This? I wouldn't call it "protesting" it's just rioting.

Meanwhile, when people can't find something to get angry over, they make one up. I mean, seriously? the news actually called them "protesters" What are they protesting? Nothing. ugh. On the bright side, when they managed to set two police cars on fire they decided they should stand rather close to it. I'm keen to see what happens when the cars finally explode, no doubt it will be the equivalent of pouring some chlorine in the gene pool.

It's happened before, Can't remember where though. I'm fairly sure it was also related to a hockey loss.

EDIT: oh, right, guess a source might be helpful

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/hockey/nhl/2011-06-16-vancouver-riots_n.htm

Also, found out what the other riots I was thinking of were, Vancouver B.C, 1994, when, just like t oday, they lost the Stanley Cup.

I seriously am at a loss for words to see the type of things people are willing to get angry about- I guess when you are accommodated in so many other ways you just have to find some way to "get mad".I can't even begin to imagine why people felt this was a reason to riot. Or why it deserves any more than a "shucks" or two. I didn't even realize it was hockey season. Or is it always hockey season in Canada? Quote from: BC_Programmer on June 15, 2011, 10:49:04 PM

It's happened before, Can't remember where though. I'm fairly sure it was also related to a hockey loss.

Actually it happened in Vancouver - when they lost to the Rangers in '97

And I'm with you guys. I'm a big sports fan - always have been - but my fanaticism ENDS when the game does. I root for a team and salute the winner, regardless of who it is. It's called sportsmanship. These people clearly don't have a live of their own - they live vicariously through their sports heroes.
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And I'm with you guys. I'm a big sports fan - always have been - but my fanaticism ends when the game does. I root for a team and salute the winner, regardless of who it is. It's called sportsmanship. These people clearly don't have a live of their own - they live vicariously through their sports heroes.

Exactly, Like I say- they (the fans) weren't playing the game, whether Vancouver won or lost isn't going to affect them personally, You root for the team, but like you say there is no reason for that to overflow outside the rink/stadium- certainly not ENOUGH to riot about it... I mean, really? Setting police cars on fire... Meanwhile the players themselves might have been dejected but they always seem to take the loss a *censored* of a lot better than their fans. I still don't understand why the news called them "protesters"...

Quote from: CBMatt on June 16, 2011, 03:35:31 PM

I can't even begin to imagine why people felt this was a reason to riot.

That's basically my take on it. At least riots with a "cause"; government policies, taxation, etc put good use to the "freedom to assemble/protest" rights, but this just makes a mockery out of them. What's next? riots because a local restaurant runs out of ketchup?

As BC has related above the reference to the past riot was 1994 "when they lost to the Rangers in '97". My wife made a suggestion today in light of the riots after last night's final game that the mayor of Vancouver should announce that if and whenever the Canucks end up in a Stanley cup playoff final again they will NOT be permitted to have ANY home games. Apparently the greater number of these thugs will be able to be identified due to so many pictures of them having been taken. Given that probably most of them are without financial means now that they expended all their money on the booze they needed to heighten their courage to run amok any court financial penalties will be ineffectual. However i suggest that the total monetary losses once established (including security costs) be apportioned between them all and however long it takes (maybe even up to 50 years ) they be obliged to conduct community services until they have satisfied their obligation to pay back what they caused to be lost.truenorthWell, I remembered it was when the lost to the Rangers. Other than that, what's 3 years give or take Right I am old enough to remember some of the ones that took place in Montreal back in the Maurice Richard/Campbell days. I could be wrong but i don't recollect any riots after games in the U.S. after a Stanley cup final--maybe it is something in our water (which by the way we have so much of).truenorthThe Media labeling them protesters legitimises them....
Turns my stomach.

They are nothing but thugs and thieves ... Quote from: patio on June 16, 2011, 06:48:18 PM

The Media labeling them protesters legitimises them....
Turns my stomach.

They are nothing but thugs and thieves ...

Exactly. Quote from: BC_Programmer on June 16, 2011, 04:13:22 PM

What's next? riots because a local restaurant runs out of ketchup?

Don't even joke about that.Interesting developments- other city citizens are helping nab RIOTERS by "tagging" them in photos and videos that were taken as it happened.

from http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2011/06/15/bc-stanley-cup-fans-post-game-7.html

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The riots shook Vancouver residents, and prompted thousands to sign up to a Facebook campaign that aimed to identify rioters and looters. There is also a campaign underway to get people to clean up the city, beginning Thursday morning.

Witnesses were ENCOURAGED by Facebook campaign organizers to post pictures of rioters in the act, in the hopes that they might be recognized and identified. More than 20,000 people had joined by the morning Thursday.

"Prosecute the thugs," wrote Lorraine Bennett on the site. "Clearly they hate the Canucks, they hate Vancouver."

I can't help but find the image of the Sears store being looted rather humorous, beside the smashed door/window there is a sticker that says "new store hours"; that certainly seems to be the case!

Wow, I think that's the first time I've heard of Facebook actually being useful.People will always use excuses to rationalize their actions.Whaddya gonna steal fron Sears for cryin out loud ? ? Quote from: patio on June 18, 2011, 08:19:29 PM

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