Solve : Your best XP SP4 rumor??

1.	Solve : Your best XP SP4 rumor??
Answer» What is the best or worst rumor you read about a XP SP4 release? That topic was popular a couple of years ago. But I just saw one that SAID they will do nit in 2014. Have you saw a recent one? If not, make up one! The only rule is this: You must be wrong! If you are right, you lose! SP4 is being rolled out on Update Tuesday in December. Why are you humoring him ? ?I don't know, patio.While there wont be a SP4, it would be nice though if they offered a last and finall Rollup for Windows XP SP3, so that those who want to keep a redist updater for Windows XP can do so without having to get all the updates from Microsoft. I have a folder on an external drive that I keep my slipsteam ISO's, Service Packs, and Redist Packages on and it would be nice to have an offline method to patching Windows XP to full service packs and all security patches vs just pushing service packs to a clean install of XP and then having to connect to Microsoft to perform the additional patches that waste time in downloading installing and reboot, and then downloading more, and installing, and a reboot, and just when you think your finally patched you have 3 more out of the 137 updates since clean install. With Windows 2000 Pro SP4, there was a Rollup at the end of its life that covered all patches if my memory is correct, so that you didnt need to waste time going through the process which included downloading the patches etc. If there was only a way to slipstream and XP install ISO with all service packs + patches + browser updates, etc Quote from: DaveLembke on October 15, 2013, 05:25:45 PM If there was only a way to slipstream and XP install ISO with all service packs + patches + browser updates, etc There is, see www.ninite.com (other ways are available, Ninite is one I've used many times successfully). A post-SP3 rollup for XP would be nice, but I don't see them putting the effort in for a 12 year old OS. Win2K SP4 was released 5 years after Win2K's initial release, the post-SP4 rollup was IIRC about 6 months later. XP is a whole different ballgame, and I think by now they just want to get people off XP, rather than continue to spend development time on "nice to haves" to HELP people keep XP going. Quote There is, see www.ninite.com (other ways are available, Ninite is one I've used many times successfully). Thanks for suggestion of ninite. Definately going to check that out when I get home from work.Ninite is very useful indeed. You can integrate specific updates and fixes, service packs, drivers, even most software...set up scripts to run after install...set up an unattended answer file easily (product key, user names and so forth) and even configure a lot of options available in Windows or system tweaks so they're done during the install, rather than having to do them afterwards. I found it was a godsend for installing XP on systems where XP didn't have the storage driver, sure beats messing around with floppy disks. Quote I found it was a godsend for installing XP on systems where XP didn't have the storage driver, sure beats messing around with floppy disks. Yah I ran into same issue with XP and a ( vista era ) laptop with SATA controller driver that wasnt a part of XP SP2 install disc. I ended up using nLite to make a XP SP3 slipstream which also had the Toshiba Laptops SATA controller driver for XP added so that it wouldnt come up with Hard Disk Not Found during XP install. ninite looks like it will be a godsend for me too from the sounds of it, especially if it supports up to Win 7 or 8 etc to make those installs able to be customized for unattended etc as well. I have set up and performed unattended installations before years ago using tools to make the answer file etc to make/burn a custom system disc that would perform an unattended install etc. Also used RIS, although I have no use for RIS or the later named Windows Deployment Service (WDS) at this time since I no longer deploy batches of like systems anymore like I use to at my prior IT job.FACEPALM I meant Nlite, sorry! Brain is fried from today, apologies. Ninite is still a useful tool, but Nlite is what I was actually talking about, it does the whole unattended install business, hotfix and SP integration, etc. Thanks for clarification... I have used nLite before, but never added msupdates to it, just slipstreams in the past added and drivers. Will dig into how to do that with nLite. As far as ninite goes, from what I read that also looks pretty cool to check into, so I will still check that out, but thanks for stating it was really nLite and not ninite so I didnt chase my tail. Quote FACEPALM I was waiting for that one.... Sorry about that guys, had a long day at work and Ninite was involved somewhere along the line, they use some of the same letters and BOOM, heh. Nlite only works for XP and possibly 2K, but Vlite is from the same developer for Vista, and I believe there are equivalents for Windows 7 though I've never used them. To be fair, I don't see the need for them in Vista or 7 because you can load drivers (if needed) from a USB stick instead of a floppy, and the setup process requires less user involvement than XP anyway. With XP, it was often quicker to integrate drivers and set up an unattended install than to install it "normally", with Vista/7 not so much unless you're doing lots of setups.

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What is the best or worst rumor you read about a XP SP4 release?
That topic was popular a couple of years ago. But I just saw one that SAID they will do nit in 2014. Have you saw a recent one? If not, make up one!

The only rule is this: You must be wrong! If you are right, you lose!

SP4 is being rolled out on Update Tuesday in December. Why are you humoring him ? ?I don't know, patio.While there wont be a SP4, it would be nice though if they offered a last and finall Rollup for Windows XP SP3, so that those who want to keep a redist updater for Windows XP can do so without having to get all the updates from Microsoft.

I have a folder on an external drive that I keep my slipsteam ISO's, Service Packs, and Redist Packages on and it would be nice to have an offline method to patching Windows XP to full service packs and all security patches vs just pushing service packs to a clean install of XP and then having to connect to Microsoft to perform the additional patches that waste time in downloading installing and reboot, and then downloading more, and installing, and a reboot, and just when you think your finally patched you have 3 more out of the 137 updates since clean install.

With Windows 2000 Pro SP4, there was a Rollup at the end of its life that covered all patches if my memory is correct, so that you didnt need to waste time going through the process which included downloading the patches etc.

If there was only a way to slipstream and XP install ISO with all service packs + patches + browser updates, etc Quote from: DaveLembke on October 15, 2013, 05:25:45 PM

If there was only a way to slipstream and XP install ISO with all service packs + patches + browser updates, etc

There is, see www.ninite.com (other ways are available, Ninite is one I've used many times successfully).

A post-SP3 rollup for XP would be nice, but I don't see them putting the effort in for a 12 year old OS. Win2K SP4 was released 5 years after Win2K's initial release, the post-SP4 rollup was IIRC about 6 months later. XP is a whole different ballgame, and I think by now they just want to get people off XP, rather than continue to spend development time on "nice to haves" to HELP people keep XP going. Quote

There is, see www.ninite.com (other ways are available, Ninite is one I've used many times successfully).

Thanks for suggestion of ninite. Definately going to check that out when I get home from work.Ninite is very useful indeed. You can integrate specific updates and fixes, service packs, drivers, even most software...set up scripts to run after install...set up an unattended answer file easily (product key, user names and so forth) and even configure a lot of options available in Windows or system tweaks so they're done during the install, rather than having to do them afterwards.
I found it was a godsend for installing XP on systems where XP didn't have the storage driver, sure beats messing around with floppy disks. Quote

I found it was a godsend for installing XP on systems where XP didn't have the storage driver, sure beats messing around with floppy disks.

Yah I ran into same issue with XP and a ( vista era ) laptop with SATA controller driver that wasnt a part of XP SP2 install disc. I ended up using nLite to make a XP SP3 slipstream which also had the Toshiba Laptops SATA controller driver for XP added so that it wouldnt come up with Hard Disk Not Found during XP install. ninite looks like it will be a godsend for me too from the sounds of it, especially if it supports up to Win 7 or 8 etc to make those installs able to be customized for unattended etc as well.

I have set up and performed unattended installations before years ago using tools to make the answer file etc to make/burn a custom system disc that would perform an unattended install etc. Also used RIS, although I have no use for RIS or the later named Windows Deployment Service (WDS) at this time since I no longer deploy batches of like systems anymore like I use to at my prior IT job.FACEPALM

I meant Nlite, sorry! Brain is fried from today, apologies. Ninite is still a useful tool, but Nlite is what I was actually talking about, it does the whole unattended install business, hotfix and SP integration, etc. Thanks for clarification... I have used nLite before, but never added msupdates to it, just slipstreams in the past added and drivers. Will dig into how to do that with nLite. As far as ninite goes, from what I read that also looks pretty cool to check into, so I will still check that out, but thanks for stating it was really nLite and not ninite so I didnt chase my tail. Quote

FACEPALM

I was waiting for that one.... Sorry about that guys, had a long day at work and Ninite was involved somewhere along the line, they use some of the same letters and BOOM, heh.
Nlite only works for XP and possibly 2K, but Vlite is from the same developer for Vista, and I believe there are equivalents for Windows 7 though I've never used them. To be fair, I don't see the need for them in Vista or 7 because you can load drivers (if needed) from a USB stick instead of a floppy, and the setup process requires less user involvement than XP anyway. With XP, it was often quicker to integrate drivers and set up an unattended install than to install it "normally", with Vista/7 not so much unless you're doing lots of setups.

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