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I've been a loyal Norton user for years and years.... But find myself strapped for cash as my annual $ubscription runs out...

So, after scanning folks' posts in here, I have decided to replace Norton Firewall with Zone Alarm, and Norton AntiVirus with AVG Free.

[highlight]=> So, someone PLEASE confirm those are two good choices![/highlight]

But I also like to use Norton WinDoctor, System Doctor, DiskDoctor, etc. Is there any good, free software to replace those???

ETA: (I also like the IDEA of Norton GoBack, although I don't think I've ever used it!)

Or am I better off skipping groceries for a week and SENDING the cash to Peter?

Thanks!The Norton utilities SEEM to cause a lot of problems and imho, you are better off without them. Beware of the latest version of ZA - It too seems to have it's fair share of problems. You'll find a good selection of mostly free and above all, clean software [highlight]here[/highlight].
Personally, for a free firewall, I would recommend [highlight]Kerio 215[/highlight].

To fully remove the Norton/Symantec products, you will undoubtedly need one of the remoal tools that Symantec supply.Thanks. I will take note of Kerio... But I have to view your post with some skepticism... Your post count is "666"... Troubling... Quote

Your post count is "666"... Troubling...

LOL ....... Thats because his post before that was 665


dl65   Quote
Thats because his post before that was 665
Post PROOF or retract.

I guess I don't lose utilities when I don't resubscribe, do I? Just the Firewall and AntiVirus....

I'll try both firewalls - one on each machine - and see what happens!

Thanks
rjbinney........
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Post proof or retract.

Excuse me , but what are you refering to?

dl65  See... prove that his previous post was indeed 665... otherwise I'll assume his postcount always is 666.... see, it's a joke... I don't think the guy REALLY is evil incarnate.... See? It's like, well, humour...If you're trying out Firewalls then give Sygate a try.
http://207.33.111.31/spf/
Get Version 5.5 Build 2710.coffe+offler=coffee monster Well, I loaded Kerio... And it instantly gave me an Incoming warning about Java... so I hit Deny, OVER 75 TIMES, so I decided, well, maybe I'll allow it.... OVER 30 TIMES before I forced the machine into Safe Mode and uninstalled it.

So I didn't like that one!

With Kerio, as with any good app based firewall, there are two levels of admittance or denial; temporary and permanent. To make a choice permanent, check the Make Rule box. It's really that simple and it's all there in the help files.
If it was correctly set up, the Norton firewall did exactly the same!

Why did it warn about incoming attempts anyway? It doesn't do it without very good reason."Of course I've tried soapy water!"

Yeah, I figured that Norton had allowed it in the past. That's why I only was going to permit it once, so I could research it (a flawed strategy, but a strategy!) I don't remember the specifics - I should have written it down - but it was like "Attack from [IP], in Germany".

But even when I started permitting it permanently, it came back with the same problem. So I powered it out.

It was just too frustrating!

Maybe I'll try again when I have a good movie on in the background. Or a good book nearby.

But I'm gonna try Sygate next.

Thanks!What was running when these "attacks" were taking place? The only permissible multiple Java connections that I can think of would be if you're running something like Azureus.
Perhaps Norton had blocked it in the past.Well, I do run Azureus, but it doesn't load at startup, and it wasn't on the port I have authorized Azureus to use (which is assigned at my router, anyway).

I don't know a whole heck of a lot about how Java works, so I just went into scared-and-confused mode and punted.

The only things I've put in my Startup folder are Palm's HotSync and Adobe Quick Install (which isn't). (And also a small macro program AutoHotKey because my 8 key doesn't work, so I have SHIFT+WIN+9 = 8.)In that case, no connections, inbound or outbound should be apparent. You were perhaps being scanned but that doesn't add up as to where Java is involved.
You need to make a complete security audit. Quote
You need to make a complete security audit.
Alright, I'll bite.

How?

("complete security audit" sounds much more serious than what I usually do!)

Is it just me, or does everyone start singing "Substitute" to themselves when they see your posts??!?!?
Carry out the procedures listed [highlight]here[/highlight] and post a Hijackthis logfile here when done.

WHO sings substitute? Wow. That's a lot of stuff....

I run SpyBot weekly, AdAware weekly, NAV 3x/week, and have the Norton Firewall on.

NEVER had an issue...Hw do you know you've never had an issue if you don't cross check?
The majority of heavily infected machines that I see (And believe me, that's a *censored* of a lot) with any protection at all are "protected" by NAV....which is one of the reasons why I am looking for something other than NAV.

I will obviously need some time to run all this!So I ran AVG free last night, and it found a virus in a ZIP file I downloaded... But didn't DO anything about it. It didn't OFFER to repair, quarantine, whatever.

I've tooled around with different options, and I can't see how to set it to quarantine or repair a file.

Does it NOT do that - it just alerts me where they are, so I can delete them?

Or did I miss something??!?

Thanks.

(and, btw, to "Look Bloody Young But I'm Just Backdated"... Looking at that laundry list, I do dump my temp files once a week, and every time I add software I scan the Add/Control to make sure nothing else got slammed in.... At least once, sometimes twice, a month, I scan my Task Manager Processes and make sure there's nothing running that shouldn't. But I will still get to that list! Thanks!) Quote
I've been a loyal Norton user for years and years.... But find myself strapped for cash as my annual $ubscription runs out...

So, after scanning folks' posts in here, I have decided to replace Norton Firewall with Zone Alarm, and Norton AntiVirus with AVG Free.

[highlight]=> So, someone PLEASE confirm those are two good choices![/highlight]

But I also like to use Norton WinDoctor, System Doctor, DiskDoctor, etc. Is there any good, free software to replace those???

ETA: (I also like the IDEA of Norton GoBack, although I don't think I've ever used it!)

Or am I better off skipping groceries for a week and sending the cash to Peter?

Thanks!
I gather you have Norton System Works and that's where you NAV came from.  Right?  I'm not here to counter the usual Norton bashing, but, since you've been a long-time user of Norton utilities, you could just remove NAV and keep the Norton utilities installed.  You do not need to install all components of SystemWorks.  While regular updating of the anti-virus component of SystemWorks is obviously critical, the utilities do not fall under that same requirement.Thanks, soybean. I DID realize that after my initial post.

I don't have anything against Norton, as I said, it's literally $60 to them right now or to the gas company.


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