Solve : exclamation in device manager, extra drivers too. hoping for

1.	Solve : exclamation in device manager, extra drivers too. hoping for easy fix?
Answer» Good evening ejames82 I am not trying to be a wise guy OK like I said I couldn't remember if that one "the M52" had the 2 wire plug and yours does NOT if it did it would be by the "speaker in the front of the case" it would stick out like a sore thumb. So YO are good on that and like you I didn't see it. OK when that error you are getting "only comes up" when 1 of 2 things get changed (1) the motherboard or (2) the CPU gets changed. The only way the fix the issue is to use the IBM "service tag / machine type changer". What I mean by this is your "machine type" is (8113-D5U) that is the machine type. And in "IBM Land" that can only be done during the BIOS flash with the service tag changer. IBM PC's are very sensitive and they do know when the parts have been changed and that is when that error comes up. If you still have the Original CPU and if it was put back in the error would go way. I know this sound crazy but it is true, Mike Quote from: ejames82 on August 03, 2012, 02:50:05 PM Computer_Commando, ...there was a noticeable increase in speed when the cpu's were exchanged so the error could not have been VALID. if the error were true, it seems the computer would not work at all since the cpu would be 'ignored'... So, the original CPU is not the Pentium-D, which is now installed? That would explain the error message. Since you have the latest BIOS version & it gets past the BIOS & is able to boot, you'll just have to live with the error message & ignore it. You are very lucky that the Pentium-D functions in your motherboard. Quote from: hartbeatmr on August 03, 2012, 05:31:25 PM ...If you still have the Original CPU and if it was put back in the error would go way... Exactly what I am SAYING here.Hello Mike and Computer_Commando, it was quite a shocker the first time I started the computer after the cpu change/bios upgrade and saw that error message, then shortly afterward saw the familiar grub screen. of course I still felt quite nervous up until I copied files from an exterior hard drive at over a Gb per minute where the pentium 4 was considerably less than a Gb per minute. I knew at that time the operation was a success, regardless of the error message. the pentium D was indeed superior. I have no problem living with the error message, nor the exclamation points in device manager (as I said before, I will try to relocate pci cards the next time I do maintenance on the pc) the computer works fine. I also did an eset online scan which detected nothing. my wife has proceeded to reclaim her computer once again. Thanks to everyone that replied. I am now using a Pentium D 3.0GHz. I don't find it that much faster than my old Pentium 4-3.0GHz, however, the motherboards are different, but the drives are the same. For some reason, the Pentium D runs 20-30degC cooler, but all the data & blogs say it runs hot. The cpu fan is just the stock Intel one. It normally runs 30-40degC, now the graphics card will run 40-50degC. Pentium D Socket 775's are pretty cheap, about $19-37. Pentium 4's are down around $10.Computer_Commando, since it's the computer that my wife uses, trying to monitor temperatures with a program such as speedfan is useless. I do, however, pull the computer out and clean the dust out every four months and she knows it's for her own good. from my occasional use of the computer and PAYING attention to the fan's activity, I would declare that the computer stays in the safe temperature range. I have become accustomed to recognizing the erratic behavior when a computer starts to overheat, because when I have seen this the first thing I do is open the case and check for dust buildup. this computer has behaved consistently good since the cpu/bios upgrade. the pentium D that I purchased was $25 on ebay with about $8 shipping. I am pretty sure that what I have in this computer is a presler. thanks for the reply.HWInfo will tell you EVERYTHING about the computer & is also able to monitor temps in real time. The author updates it about once every week with betas & finals about once a month. Much better than SpeedFan. www.hwinfo.com Downloads are in the "blue bar" across the top. Choose 32 or 64 depending on your OS.Computer_Commando, I installed it. nice program. I have a screenshot here. it does tell a lot for a couple of windows. it looks like the temperature is ok. http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/8016/hwim.jpg thanks again.One thing that I noticed about your machine is that you have a lot of items on the device manager tree. I do not know what you use machine for but in my experience with computers I have not had so many items in my device manager shown. If you can or are willing to take the risk try to uninstall as many drivers from the system but keep in my that doing so might either bring new problems or solve the current one. So what i suggest you do is go to your motherboards drivers page and download all the latest drivers so you have a them backed up after doing so uninstall the drivers you might think are not being used by going into add or remove programs.. Good luck.Quote from: F0rward on October 06, 2012, 11:09:26 AM One thing that I noticed about your machine is that you have a lot of items on the device manager tree. I do not know what you use machine for but in my experience with computers I have not had so many items in my device manager shown. If you can or are willing to take the risk try to uninstall as many drivers from the system but keep in my that doing so might either bring new problems or solve the current one.... You seem to be misinformed about the Device Manager. If the device (hardware) does not exist, it will not be listed in the DM. If a device is not listed, it makes no difference if the drivers are installed or not. Windows won't use the drivers if the hardware is not installed.

Solve : exclamation in device manager, extra drivers too. hoping for easy fix?

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Good evening ejames82

I am not trying to be a wise guy OK like I said I couldn't remember if that one "the M52" had the 2 wire plug and yours does NOT if it did it would be by the "speaker in the front of the case" it would stick out like a sore thumb. So YO are good on that and like you I didn't see it.

OK when that error you are getting "only comes up" when 1 of 2 things get changed (1) the motherboard or (2) the CPU gets changed. The only way the fix the issue is to use the IBM "service tag / machine type changer". What I mean by this is your "machine type" is (8113-D5U) that is the machine type. And in "IBM Land" that can only be done during the BIOS flash with the service tag changer. IBM PC's are very sensitive and they do know when the parts have been changed and that is when that error comes up. If you still have the Original CPU and if it was put back in the error would go way.

I know this sound crazy but it is true, Mike

Quote from: ejames82 on August 03, 2012, 02:50:05 PM

Computer_Commando,
...there was a noticeable increase in speed when the cpu's were exchanged so the error could not have been VALID. if the error were true, it seems the computer would not work at all since the cpu would be 'ignored'...

So, the original CPU is not the Pentium-D, which is now installed?
That would explain the error message. Since you have the latest BIOS version & it gets past the BIOS & is able to boot, you'll just have to live with the error message & ignore it. You are very lucky that the Pentium-D functions in your motherboard.

Quote from: hartbeatmr on August 03, 2012, 05:31:25 PM

...If you still have the Original CPU and if it was put back in the error would go way...

Exactly what I am SAYING here.Hello Mike and Computer_Commando,

it was quite a shocker the first time I started the computer after the cpu change/bios upgrade and saw that error message, then shortly afterward saw the familiar grub screen. of course I still felt quite nervous up until I copied files from an exterior hard drive at over a Gb per minute where the pentium 4 was considerably less than a Gb per minute. I knew at that time the operation was a success, regardless of the error message. the pentium D was indeed superior.

I have no problem living with the error message, nor the exclamation points in device manager (as I said before, I will try to relocate pci cards the next time I do maintenance on the pc) the computer works fine. I also did an eset online scan which detected nothing.

my wife has proceeded to reclaim her computer once again.

Thanks to everyone that replied. I am now using a Pentium D 3.0GHz. I don't find it that much faster than my old Pentium 4-3.0GHz, however, the motherboards are different, but the drives are the same. For some reason, the Pentium D runs 20-30degC cooler, but all the data & blogs say it runs hot. The cpu fan is just the stock Intel one. It normally runs 30-40degC, now the graphics card will run 40-50degC.

Pentium D Socket 775's are pretty cheap, about $19-37. Pentium 4's are down around $10.Computer_Commando,

since it's the computer that my wife uses, trying to monitor temperatures with a program such as speedfan is useless. I do, however, pull the computer out and clean the dust out every four months and she knows it's for her own good. from my occasional use of the computer and PAYING attention to the fan's activity, I would declare that the computer stays in the safe temperature range. I have become accustomed to recognizing the erratic behavior when a computer starts to overheat, because when I have seen this the first thing I do is open the case and check for dust buildup. this computer has behaved consistently good since the cpu/bios upgrade.

the pentium D that I purchased was $25 on ebay with about $8 shipping. I am pretty sure that what I have in this computer is a presler.

thanks for the reply.HWInfo will tell you EVERYTHING about the computer & is also able to monitor temps in real time. The author updates it about once every week with betas & finals about once a month. Much better than SpeedFan.
www.hwinfo.com
Downloads are in the "blue bar" across the top. Choose 32 or 64 depending on your OS.Computer_Commando,

I installed it.
nice program. I have a screenshot here. it does tell a lot for a couple of windows.

it looks like the temperature is ok.

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/8016/hwim.jpg

thanks again.One thing that I noticed about your machine is that you have a lot of items on the device manager tree. I do not know what you use machine for but in my experience with computers I have not had so many items in my device manager shown. If you can or are willing to take the risk try to uninstall as many drivers from the system but keep in my that doing so might either bring new problems or solve the current one. So what i suggest you do is go to your motherboards drivers page and download all the latest drivers so you have a them backed up after doing so uninstall the drivers you might think are not being used by going into add or remove programs.. Good luck.Quote from: F0rward on October 06, 2012, 11:09:26 AM

One thing that I noticed about your machine is that you have a lot of items on the device manager tree. I do not know what you use machine for but in my experience with computers I have not had so many items in my device manager shown. If you can or are willing to take the risk try to uninstall as many drivers from the system but keep in my that doing so might either bring new problems or solve the current one....

You seem to be misinformed about the Device Manager. If the device (hardware) does not exist, it will not be listed in the DM. If a device is not listed, it makes no difference if the drivers are installed or not. Windows won't use the drivers if the hardware is not installed.

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