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Answer» i just had my hp laptop die (not even 2 yet), well now that its gone i need a new one. what i need is some input as to what to buy, i need something that has very GOOD video for photos, and i teach, and run a busness. so itend to do a lot of multi tasking, so this laptop must be quick and dependable. any ideas... Budget ? ? That's where i usually start.We would think you already know this: Quote Leading Brands * Acer * Apple * Dell * Gateway * HP * Lenovo * Sony * Toshiba IMO, do not buy any laptop NOT on this list.You missed Vigor Gaming, ASUS, and Panasonic.My budget is around $1200. and i ask on here because this time i want something i can count on. i do have one in mind, its msi's p600. Quote from: DragonMaster Jay on April 19, 2010, 09:26:58 PM You missed Vigor Gaming, ASUS, and Panasonic. No, I avoided them. They are not suitable for the criteria he gave. The OP is not a hobbyist that wants to... repair his computer once a week.Umm..ASUS motherboards are one of the best. Both Acer and ASUS have leading motherboards and have become true competitors to Intel. Quote from: DragonMaster Jay on April 20, 2010, 11:56:47 AM Umm..ASUS motherboards are one of the best. Both Acer and ASUS have leading motherboards and have become true competitors to Intel. I tend to agree. Quote from: Geek-9pm on April 20, 2010, 11:50:21 AM The OP is not a hobbyist that wants to... repair his computer once a week. That's nice, but what does it have to do with the brands Jay mentioned? They are as dependable, if not more so, then those brands you listed.Nutman, what type of computer are you looking for? Netbook? Laptop? Where are you bringing it? To work? To school? Mostly kept at home? What will you be doing on it? Surfing the web? Work (i.e. on MS Word) Watching movies? Gaming? Media production?Hi. C D i am looking to get a laptop i can use anywhere, home, work or travel. will be using word,doing some work with photos, as well as tons of surfing for research. i will use office a lot as well. and sometimes i will just play. i guess i need something that can keep up to me, yet is not a monster to tote around. i was looking to the MSI P600 but cant seem to find a place to get one or a price. i am open to other systems, i just need some info on somthing that will not crast and die, because its made so cheap. this is why i ask here, i assume the collective mind here can point me to a good laptop. Quote from: BC_Programmer on April 20, 2010, 04:37:36 PM I tend to agree. That's nice, but what does it have to do with the brands Jay mentioned? They are as dependable, if not more so, then those brands you listed. What do you mean dependable? Do you mean the Never fail? What if it fails and you are on a trip away from home? Who is going to fix it? The OP had specific needs, He was not asking about a general overall great value. Quote his laptop must be quick and dependable. ... As for ASUS, I am using one of their motherboards now, It just keeps on RUINING. But to learn more about their support, you should check out their site and the warranties policies. http://support.asesu.com Well, let's be specific. Here are just three laptops that are in the upper class. 1. My best recommendation for use as a teaching tool: Apple MacBook Pro Spring 2010 (Core i7 2.66GHz, 4GB RAM, 500GB HDD, 15-inch) 2. If price is no limit then Sony VAIO Z Series VPC-Z116GX/S 13-inch Vaio has a Core i5 CPU, discrete graphics, a 256GB SSD, high price 3. High performance, lower cost go with Toshiba Satellite E205-S1904 bundle Intel's Wireless Display technology.. ALL of these makers provide full service centers across the world. Dependability should include the quality of WARRANTY service. How did it die? Quote What do you mean dependable? Do you mean the Never fail? of course not. If you had glanced at a dictionary you'd know that: Quote Dependable: reliable; worthy of reliance or trust; "a reliable source of information"; "a dependable worker" Quote dependability - The trustworthiness of a computing system which allows reliance to be justifiably placed on the service it delivers. It is also used as the collective term gathering the following attributes or non-functional requirements: availability, reliability, maintainability, safety, and security. Geek, you listed HP in the list of brands. apparently you missed that their previous laptop that failed in 2 years was also an HP. evidently their warranties aren't as great as you or they claim or they wouldn't be looking for a new laptop, and evidently not all of their laptops "never fail" or else it wouldn't have failed either. so by your protracted definition HP isn't dependable. Quote What if it fails and you are on a trip away from home? you say "fails" but you say nothing of the nature of the failure. Remember that no warranty will be honoured if the reason for the "failure" is evidently user indifference. additionally, just because had a bad experience with a certain brand doesn't necessarily mean everybody should avoid them. Quote The OP had specific needs, He was not asking about a general overall great value. Actually, they did. 1200$ budget, quick and reliable. Now exactly are you defining "reliable" in this context geek? How is toshiba, or HP (which I've already covered) or Lenovo any more dependable then ASUS, aside from the fact that you had a bad experience a single time. you're one person. compared to the millions of other people that are quite satisifed with both ASUS's products and their support. Additionally, you just say "it keeps on ruining" you never say "how". It doesn't matter how "dependable" a specific motherboard might be if the user keeps subjecting it to a power supply that doesn't provide the right voltages. And this is hardly ASUS's fault. Also, It's important to note that ASUS does make the laptops they sell. You could buy an "ASUS" laptop, and have the exact same laptop as somebody else who purchases a toshiba, aside from of course the large amount of brand labelling for each. Quote Toshiba had been the largest laptop manufacturer practically every year since the mid 1980sthat is until Quanta and Compal both outsold Toshiba in 2001. More recently, Toshiba sales have been gaining, and it took second place back from Compal and is gaining on Quanta. Quanta's ace in the hole is that it has become the primary contract manufacturer for Dell, which is Quanta's largest customer. Quanta also makes systems for HP, Compaq, eMachines, Best Buy, and Apple, among others. Dell also purchases laptops from Compal and Wistron (Acer), so it isn't tied to one supplier. Now you can see why Dell's different model lines look so differentthey were actually designed and manufactured by different companies. Contract manufacturing by companies such as Quanta and Compal is also the main reason why you see so many different brands of laptop systems that seem to look identical to one another. One potential drawback of the OEM/ODM game is that it is more difficult for companies to support the systems they sell, because in reality they didn't make them and may not have direct access to the parts and manufacturing. Therefore, in such cases no company is really properly equipped to support systems from the third party, and if you are going to complain about hardware reliability it might be best to blame and/or reward the appropriate company, not the one trying to take credit.our motherboard started freezine and then just failed. i feel less then 2 yrs for a laptop just sucks, and it was an HP,so i will not buy from them again. we have a toshiba we passed on to our daughter,its 4 and still working good. so yuo can see why i am asking for help choosing. i dont want another piece of junk laptop. OH we do baby our laptops and it was not user error or miss use. someone at a pc store said hp and toshiba are the same now. still waiting to hear any opinions on the msi p600. Quote still waiting to hear any opinions on the msi p600. The OP is smarter that he lets us believe. Few people know about MSI and the p600. Here is what the OP must already knowsabout MSI: Quote Who is MSI? New Netbook Manufacturer Makes Waves Posted on 05/18/2009 By Liam McCabe msi_wind If you’re anything like me, brand name matters. This isn’t because I’m more interested in the name of the product rather than the quality, but because the two, normally, go hand in hand. This is why Sony is one of the top sellers of electronics, and Armani suits are in such high demand. Companies with good quality products establish a name for themselves and capture market share. But, what about new kids on the block, do you avoid them because they’re not well known, or do you try them out and see what happens? Well, this is just the case with the MSI Wind. Most people haven’t even heard of the name MSI until the MSI Wind came out and proved to everyone that it was a name to be reckoned with. Because of a product like the Wind, there’s a good chance that MSI will start increasing their market share. So, let’s get some background on MSI. ... http://www.laptopadvisor.com/articles And that was last year. Quote Wind stands for "Wi-Fi Network Device". It was first announced 2008. Just the 10.1-inch LCD model was in the United States. The MSI Wind had es an Intel Atom 45 nm at 1.6 GHz. Also featured isBluetooth, WLAN and a 1.3MP camera.. So yeah, a cutting edge company. Dependable? Too early to tell.

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i just had my hp laptop die (not even 2 yet), well now that its gone i need a new one. what i need is some input as to what to buy, i need something that has very GOOD video for photos, and i teach, and run a busness. so itend to do a lot of multi tasking, so this laptop must be quick and dependable. any ideas... Budget ? ?
That's where i usually start.We would think you already know this:
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Leading Brands
* Acer
* Apple
* Dell
* Gateway
* HP
* Lenovo
* Sony
* Toshiba

IMO, do not buy any laptop NOT on this list.You missed Vigor Gaming, ASUS, and Panasonic.My budget is around $1200. and i ask on here because this time i want something i can count on. i do have one in mind, its
msi's p600. Quote from: DragonMaster Jay on April 19, 2010, 09:26:58 PM

You missed Vigor Gaming, ASUS, and Panasonic.

No, I avoided them. They are not suitable for the criteria he gave.
The OP is not a hobbyist that wants to...
repair his computer once a week.Umm..ASUS motherboards are one of the best. Both Acer and ASUS have leading motherboards and have become true competitors to Intel. Quote from: DragonMaster Jay on April 20, 2010, 11:56:47 AM

Umm..ASUS motherboards are one of the best. Both Acer and ASUS have leading motherboards and have become true competitors to Intel.

I tend to agree.

Quote from: Geek-9pm on April 20, 2010, 11:50:21 AM

The OP is not a hobbyist that wants to...
repair his computer once a week.

That's nice, but what does it have to do with the brands Jay mentioned? They are as dependable, if not more so, then those brands you listed.Nutman, what type of computer are you looking for?
Netbook? Laptop?

Where are you bringing it?
To work?
To school?
Mostly kept at home?

What will you be doing on it?
Surfing the web?
Work (i.e. on MS Word)
Watching movies?
Gaming?
Media production?Hi. C D i am looking to get a laptop i can use anywhere, home, work or travel. will be using word,doing some work with photos, as well as tons of surfing for research. i will use office a lot as well. and sometimes i will just play. i guess i need something that can keep up to me, yet is not a monster to tote around. i was looking to the MSI P600 but cant seem to find a place to get one or a price. i am open to other systems, i just need some info on somthing that will not crast and die, because its made so cheap. this is why i ask here, i assume the collective mind here can point me to a good laptop. Quote from: BC_Programmer on April 20, 2010, 04:37:36 PM

I tend to agree.

That's nice, but what does it have to do with the brands Jay mentioned? They are as dependable, if not more so, then those brands you listed.

What do you mean dependable? Do you mean the Never fail? What if it fails and you are on a trip away from home? Who is going to fix it? The OP had specific needs, He was not asking about a general overall great value.

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his laptop must be quick and dependable. ...

As for ASUS, I am using one of their motherboards now, It just keeps on RUINING. But to learn more about their support, you should check out their site and the warranties policies.
http://support.asesu.com

Well, let's be specific. Here are just three laptops that are in the upper class.

1. My best recommendation for use as a teaching tool:
Apple MacBook Pro Spring 2010 (Core i7 2.66GHz, 4GB RAM, 500GB HDD, 15-inch)

2. If price is no limit then Sony VAIO Z Series VPC-Z116GX/S
13-inch Vaio has a Core i5 CPU, discrete graphics, a 256GB SSD, high price

3. High performance, lower cost go with Toshiba Satellite E205-S1904 bundle
Intel's Wireless Display technology..

ALL of these makers provide full service centers across the world. Dependability should include the quality of WARRANTY service.

How did it die?
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What do you mean dependable? Do you mean the Never fail?

of course not. If you had glanced at a dictionary you'd know that:
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Dependable: reliable; worthy of reliance or trust; "a reliable source of information"; "a dependable worker"

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dependability - The trustworthiness of a computing system which allows reliance to be justifiably placed on the service it delivers. It is also used as the collective term gathering the following attributes or non-functional requirements: availability, reliability, maintainability, safety, and security.

Geek, you listed HP in the list of brands. apparently you missed that their previous laptop that failed in 2 years was also an HP. evidently their warranties aren't as great as you or they claim or they wouldn't be looking for a new laptop, and evidently not all of their laptops "never fail" or else it wouldn't have failed either. so by your protracted definition HP isn't dependable.

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What if it fails and you are on a trip away from home?

you say "fails" but you say nothing of the nature of the failure. Remember that no warranty will be honoured if the reason for the "failure" is evidently user indifference.

additionally, just because had a bad experience with a certain brand doesn't necessarily mean everybody should avoid them.

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The OP had specific needs, He was not asking about a general overall great value.

Actually, they did. 1200$ budget, quick and reliable. Now exactly are you defining "reliable" in this context geek? How is toshiba, or HP (which I've already covered) or Lenovo any more dependable then ASUS, aside from the fact that you had a bad experience a single time. you're one person. compared to the millions of other people that are quite satisifed with both ASUS's products and their support. Additionally, you just say "it keeps on ruining" you never say "how". It doesn't matter how "dependable" a specific motherboard might be if the user keeps subjecting it to a power supply that doesn't provide the right voltages. And this is hardly ASUS's fault. Also, It's important to note that ASUS does make the laptops they sell. You could buy an "ASUS" laptop, and have the exact same laptop as somebody else who purchases a toshiba, aside from of course the large amount of brand labelling for each.

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Toshiba had been the largest laptop manufacturer practically every year since the mid 1980sthat is until Quanta and Compal both outsold Toshiba in 2001. More recently, Toshiba sales have been gaining, and it took second place back from Compal and is gaining on Quanta. Quanta's ace in the hole is that it has become the primary contract manufacturer for Dell, which is Quanta's largest customer. Quanta also makes systems for HP, Compaq, eMachines, Best Buy, and Apple, among others. Dell also purchases laptops from Compal and Wistron (Acer), so it isn't tied to one supplier. Now you can see why Dell's different model lines look so differentthey were actually designed and manufactured by different companies. Contract manufacturing by companies such as Quanta and Compal is also the main reason why you see so many different brands of laptop systems that seem to look identical to one another. One potential drawback of the OEM/ODM game is that it is more difficult for companies to support the systems they sell, because in reality they didn't make them and may not have direct access to the parts and manufacturing.

Therefore, in such cases no company is really properly equipped to support systems from the third party, and if you are going to complain about hardware reliability it might be best to blame and/or reward the appropriate company, not the one trying to take credit.our motherboard started freezine and then just failed. i feel less then 2 yrs for a laptop just sucks, and it was an HP,so i will not buy from them again. we have a toshiba we passed on to our daughter,its 4 and still working good. so yuo can see why i am asking for help choosing. i dont want another piece of junk laptop. OH we do baby our laptops and it was not user error or miss use. someone at a pc store said hp and toshiba are the same now.

still waiting to hear any opinions on the msi p600. Quote

still waiting to hear any opinions on the msi p600.

The OP is smarter that he lets us believe.
Few people know about MSI and the p600.
Here is what the OP must already knowsabout MSI:
Quote

Who is MSI? New Netbook Manufacturer Makes Waves
Posted on 05/18/2009
By Liam McCabe
msi_wind

If you’re anything like me, brand name matters. This isn’t because I’m more interested in the name of the product rather than the quality, but because the two, normally, go hand in hand. This is why Sony is one of the top sellers of electronics, and Armani suits are in such high demand. Companies with good quality products establish a name for themselves and capture market share. But, what about new kids on the block, do you avoid them because they’re not well known, or do you try them out and see what happens? Well, this is just the case with the MSI Wind. Most people haven’t even heard of the name MSI until the MSI Wind came out and proved to everyone that it was a name to be reckoned with. Because of a product like the Wind, there’s a good chance that MSI will start increasing their market share. So, let’s get some background on MSI. ...
http://www.laptopadvisor.com/articles

And that was last year.
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Wind stands for "Wi-Fi Network Device". It was first announced 2008. Just the 10.1-inch LCD model was in the United States. The MSI Wind had es an Intel Atom 45 nm at 1.6 GHz. Also featured isBluetooth, WLAN and a 1.3MP camera..

So yeah, a cutting edge company. Dependable? Too early to tell.

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