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Steve Jobs said he wanted to destroy Android and would spend all of Apple's money and his dying breath if that is what it took to do so.

The full extent of his animosity towards Google's mobile operating system is revealed in a forthcoming authorised biography.

Full story: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-15400984





On a side note, lets just take this article for what it is and not an excuse for people bothering each other.... here's hoping. Quote from: Mulreay on October 21, 2011, 12:07:30 PM

On a side note, lets just take this article for what it is and not an excuse for people bothering each other.... here's hoping.

Not quite sure what you mean by this... Are we allowed to say what we think of the article and what it says?
Quote from: Salmon Trout on October 21, 2011, 01:32:18 PM
Not quite sure what you mean by this... Are we allowed to say what we think of the article and what it says?

Yeah sorry I was quite unclear. Let me reiterate.. I don't think this should be turned into an argument. Does that make sense? If not I will reword it again... I could always say .. hey guys look at this but hey lets not be totally uncool to each other..

Is that better?I think it's RIDICULOUS of him to have said Google stole anything from Apple when he "stole" the GUI and the mouse from Xerox. The book also delves into Jobs' decision to delay surgery for nine months after learning he had a neuroendocrine tumour that normally grows more slowly and is therefore more treatable. Instead, he tried a vegan diet, acupuncture, herbal remedies and other treatments he found online, and even consulted a psychic. Way not to treat cancer. He has always come across to me as a vain, egotistical "I'm always right" kind of person. I like the comment I saw the other day: "Steve Jobs Reality Distortion Field ultimately claimed the life of its creator." I hope his death serves as a cautionary tale for those who are entranced by woo medicine. Of course Jobs wanted to kill Android - its existence violates the ridiculous marketing mystique he spent billions to create.
Quote from: Salmon Trout on October 21, 2011, 02:11:05 PM
The book also delves into Jobs' decision to delay surgery for nine months after learning he had a neuroendocrine tumour that normally grows more slowly and is therefore more treatable. Instead, he tried a vegan diet, acupuncture, herbal remedies and other treatments he found online, and even consulted a psychic.

Quote from: Salmon Trout on October 21, 2011, 02:11:05 PM
Way not to treat cancer. He has always come across to me as a vain, egotistical "I'm always right" kind of person. 

Quote from: Salmon Trout on October 21, 2011, 02:11:05 PM
I like the comment I saw the other day: "Steve Jobs Reality Distortion Field ultimately claimed the life of its creator." I hope his death serves as a cautionary tale for those who are entranced by woo medicine.

He had incurable cancer. My Mum has Cancer, she is going through Chemotherapy at the moment. I'm glad you like those comments. I don't see why you have a problem with me saying that Steve Jobs could have lived longer if he took medical advice instead of going for the witch-doctor flakey stuff. Or that I "like" (agree with) comments that say the reason he did that was because he was a vain egotistical person. What went around came around. If you want to have a cancer pissing contest, my mother died of it, my father has got it right now and I have recently lost 2 friends and my father-in-law to it. So don't. play. that. card. Please. What was it you said before? Oh right. "I don't think this should be turned into an argument."

Is this about the personality pf Steve Jobs, or about the issue of treating cancer?
Maybe both. Here in the USA cancer treatment is very uneven.

Disclaimer: There are many, many types of Cancer. 
 
My Mother in law  has a type of cancer that is out of control. She did both kemo and an operation. After the operation a scan showed the cancer was groining again. The doctor does not recommend any more treatment. We are thinking there is little we can do.

As for Steve Jobs, he had available to him some of the best professionals He was strongly motivated, had sorceress and associates to help him. Yet he could not find even a way to prolong his life for a few more years.

Why? A part of the reason is the American Cancer Society is a sham. They have take in money for years and the progress has been much to slow. This bis the observation of many people, not just the quacks and mentally disturbed. Perhaps Jobs also found that the mainstream medical approach was not very credible.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Cancer_Society
n 1994, the Chronicle of Philanthropy, an industry publication, released the results of the largest study of charitable and non-profit organization popularity and credibility conducted by Nye Lavalle & Associates. The study showed that the American Cancer Society was ranked as the 10th "most popular charity/non-profit in America" of over 100 charities researched with 38% of Americans over the age of 12 choosing Love and Like A lot for the American Cancer Society
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In a paper published by Samuel Epstein, "American Cancer Society: More Interested Accumulating Wealth Than Saving Lives," Dr. Epstein, Professor emeritus, Occupational & Environmental Medicine, University of Illinois, charges the American Cancer Society's focus is largely based on profit and wealth accumulation while giving little focus to actual cancer research. [13]
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In 1995, the Arizona chapter of the American Cancer Society was targeted for its extremely high overhead. Two economists, James Bennett and Thomas DiLorenzo, issued a report analyzing the chapter's own financial statements and demonstrating that it uses about 95% of its donations for paying salaries and other overhead costs, resulting in a 22 to 1 ratio of overhead to actual money spent on the cause.

All quotes are from the wikipedia. See the link above of the source references.

Before you conclude tat Jobs was mentally off-balance, read over the stuff about the American Cancer Society. The medical doctors have been strongly INFLUENCED by a huge charitable organization that has  major  credibility problems.

With false or misleading information, it is hard to make a wise decision about something that can shorten you life expectancy. That killed Steve Jobs.
Quote from: Salmon Trout on October 21, 2011, 04:22:27 PM
If you want to have a cancer pissing contest, my mother died of it, my father has got it right now and I have recently lost 2 friends and my father-in-law to it. So don't. play. that. card. Please. What was it you said before? Oh right. "I don't think this should be turned into an argument."

I'm not sure why you did that.. but you must have your reasons. Anyway you made your point and I have nothing more to say. Quote from: Geek-9pm on October 21, 2011, 05:32:33 PM
As for Steve Jobs, he had available to him some of the best professionals He was strongly motivated, had sorceress and associates to help him.

He had a sorceress?

Quote from: Mulreay on October 21, 2011, 06:19:32 PM
I'm not sure why you did that..

You did it first. Quote from: JJ 3000 on October 21, 2011, 10:50:41 PM
He had a sorceress?
See reply #3 by Salmon Trout.
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...and even consulted a psychic.

[regaining SPACE - ATTACHMENT deleted by admin] Quote from: BC_Programmer on October 21, 2011, 11:06:13 PM
You did it first.

I got antsy when he included a directive in the original post requiring responders to obey some kind of vague rule he had in mind. So I tried to get a clarification, without much success. If he had stated CLEARLY "Please don't say bad stuff about Jobs because he recently died which makes him a saint and he died of cancer which makes him even more of a saint and also my mother is in chemo so that makes three reasons." then perhaps I might not have responded quite as I did. In fact I probably would have responded just exactly as I did. I have had extensive experience of what malignant disease can do to loved ones. I don't like it when people conflate the public and the private e.g. by saying "You can't say anything against capital punishment because my brother was murdered." It may very well be that Jobs would have lived longer if he had listened to his doctors. It may not. We don't know. It does seem possible, though, and the fact that he chose to go his own sweet way is an indication of the kind of guy that he was, just as his vow to "destroy" Android was.


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