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Answer» * This was my original question, trying to set up Thunderbird & AOL - but if you read through my question has changed *
Just upgraded? Quote to recieve emails from my AOL email account, I keep getting a 'login to imap.aol.com failed' message. I was just browsing around in the Thunderbird forums. I don't remember seeing your specific problem with AOL mentioned, but I wasn't LOOKING for it either. You might want to have a look around there. http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewforum.php?f=39 Usually, right after an upgrade, people post there about failure to connect, etc., and often the first recommendation is to check the firewall. Could your firewall be blocking the new version of Thunderbird? Hello WillyW, thanks for your reply. Quote from: WillyW on February 28, 2008, 11:58:56 AM Just upgraded? No, first time user. I've registered/posted in the forum you suggested, thanks for that.Aha... when I tried it with the AOL email account that I have my broadband connection registered to, it worked, however it's my wifes email address so it's not much use to me GRRRRRRRRR! The AOL email account that I am trying to recieve emails from using Thunderbird is an AOL account that I set up online through AOL's website (like gmail, hotmail etc). Basically, when you join AOL they give you a master screen name (email address) of which you can add different email accounts to using their software, but I don't have the software installed because it never worked & I use Firefox anyway. I just called AOL to see if they can add a screen name to my existing account & they say it can only be done through the software installed on my computer, unbelievable! Another thing I find unbelievable is that I have found no documentation with REGARDS to the 2 different types of AOL accounts, it's like this has never happened before? to anyone!!! Is AOL & Thunderbird so unpopular that no one has come across this problem enough to WARRANT a mention in the setup guides on AOL/Thunderbird? So, my question has now changed: Does anyone know of any email service that I can use with Thunderbird to send & recieve emails through? Can be anything that works.... Anything.... Even something like @sh*t.com gmail works great in TBird...even multiple accounts.Hey buddy, thanks, I'm on it.........Quote from: neljan on February 28, 2008, 02:40:27 PM
You're welcome. Quote I've registered/posted in the forum you suggested, thanks for that. Very active forums. Lots to be learned there. You'll like it. If you use Firefox, its forum is there too. Regarding your other question above: (in case anyone else is reading along) Thunderbird can work with a lot of different email accounts. I use it with Hotmail, Yahoo, and Gmail. Patio's recommendation of Gmail is probably the best choice - easiest to set up, less to fiddle with and thus less to continue to fiddle with as they 'upgrade'. Check out: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Using_Gmail_with_Thunderbird_and_Mozilla_Suite Further, you might like to visit: http://webmail.mozdev.org I see AOL listed there! Never really paid it any attention before, as I've never subscribed to AOL. So I have no experience with using their AOL extension. They do a good job with providing clear instructions though. Let us know if you ever try their AOL extension, and how well it works. Hey guys That was strange, I found Mozdev & was setting it all up just as WillyW suggested it. I managed to get gmail working fine (thanks Patio) but I didn't like the @googlemail.com domain - too long. If I could have had just gmail I would have. So I've now set up Thunderbird to recieve my 4 hotmail accounts instead (AOL still didn't work Willy - got a 'password sending failed' message this time). Anyway, everythings sorted now so thanks for all your help... Do you know if this Mozdev is a trial? I remember I used freepops before, after 30 days the 'free' part turned out to be a load of BS.Quote from: neljan on February 28, 2008, 10:41:23 PM ... Great minds think alike. Quote
googlemail.com ? Is that what they issue now? Mine is just gmail.com Quote So I've now set up Thunderbird to recieve my 4 hotmail accounts instead (AOL still didn't work Willy - got a 'password sending failed' message this time). Head back to the Mozillazine forums and see if you can find it with a search. If not, post it! You can't be the only one out there trying it. Somebody should have something to say about it. Whatever you learn there, please let us know here. Quote Anyway, everythings sorted now so thanks for all your help... You are referring to the two add-on extensions, right? You probably have Webmail 1.3.1 and Webmail Hotmail 1.2.14 when you look in Thunderbird's Tools->Add-ons. Those are what I use for Hotmail. Have been for a while now. Originally downloaded from http://webmail.mozdev.org/installation.html They are free. I think you can even get the source code, if you want it. Here is what to expect though - this is the down side. Microsoft periodically 'improves' something on their end with Hotmail. This breaks the extensions' ability to send and/or receive your Hotmail email. The developer MUST wait until he either receives a good log from someone, or until his own Webmail quits working. His might not break until days after yours does.... MS has more than one Hotmail server and their 'improvements' do not get to all their servers at the same time. There will be a flurry of messages in that forum. There is also a thread dedicated just to the Webmail extension. When it gets too long, they start a new one. It is not something that is ignored for a long time. Not at all. The developer seems to always get right on it, as soon as he has what he needs to work with. If ever you think it is broken, check that forum. Then he releases a beta. See: http://groups.google.com/group/thunderbird-webmail-extension/files (You might want to bookmark that. By the way, I see something there that looks like AOL stuff, dated just yesterday! ) He'll wait a couple days for some people to test and comment. When he feels it is all good, he does whatever he does such that your software is auto-notified that a new release is available. You can upgrade either with the built-in automatic way online, or go to either the web page or google group page and download the file, then import it from your drive. It is not a bad idea to grab a copy and keep it on your drive, just in case the next time an upgrade comes out, you have trouble with it. If you have a copy of the previous .xpi file, you can easily drop back a version. I've done this, when the 'old' version was not completely broken. I have had the window pop up and tell me that there is a new version available and never had a problem. Still worked fine. Other times, I've gotten failures, checked the forum, seen what was going on, and waited it out. If you don't know what to expect, it is worse. If you do, it is a minor pain in the *censored*. Since (so far) gmail doesn't require an extension, this is why I commented earlier that I agreed with patio's suggestion. You never have to upgrade the extension because it is broken. There is an extension available for gmail, but I've forgotten why, since it is not necessary to use it to send/receive using gmail. I'm glad you've got a solution that is working for you now. Mate that is really useful & very important to know. A lot of people wouldn't have bothered to take the time to EXPLAIN in such detail as you have so thank you very much for your time - I really appreciate the heads up (no doubt saved me a few headaches in the future aswell). Quote from: WillyW on February 29, 2008, 11:45:10 AM You probably have Webmail 1.3.1 and Webmail Hotmail 1.2.14 Indeed Quote from: WillyW on February 29, 2008, 11:45:10 AM Microsoft periodically 'improves' something on their end with Hotmail. Roughly how often would you say? Quote from: WillyW on February 29, 2008, 11:45:10 AM It is not something that is ignored for a long time. Not at all. The developer seems to always get right on it Sounds good. Quote from: WillyW on February 29, 2008, 11:45:10 AM Then he releases a beta. He'll wait a couple days for some people to test and comment. When he feels it is all good, he does whatever he does such that your software is auto-notified that a new release is available. Cor, you know your stuff! this must of happened quite a few times then? so really, when it all goes down, all I have to do (minimum) is wait until the new version has been tested & the developer issues the update recognised by Thunderbird? do the add on's work the same way as TB? automatically informing me that theres an update available or would I have to keep clicking tools > add-ons > find updates? Quote from: WillyW on February 29, 2008, 11:45:10 AM It is not a bad idea to grab a copy and keep it on your drive, just in case the next time an upgrade comes out, you have trouble with it. If you have a copy of the previous .xpi file, you can easily drop back a version. I've done this, when the 'old' version was not completely broken. That's what I do with everything I can, backup everything. Good advice. Quote from: WillyW on February 29, 2008, 11:45:10 AM I have had the window pop up and tell me that there is a new version available and never had a problem. Still worked fine. I think this answers my previous question Quote from: WillyW on February 29, 2008, 11:45:10 AM I'm glad you've got a solution that is working for you now. Thanks WillyW! you're a scholar!Quote from: neljan on February 29, 2008, 12:18:28 PM ... hmm.. 50/50 I'd say. Half the time an update comes out and the old version was still working fine. The other half of the time that a new update comes out, it was because MS broke things. That's just an estimation based on gut feeling. I haven't tried to track it. How often do updates come out? It varies. Looking back through my copies of the update files... looking at the file dates for what that is worth: I see one dated Jan 28 2008. Prior to that, Dec 4 Then Nov 13 Then Nov 2 . I seem to remember this time. This might have been a time when it was broken. Then Sep 25 Then Sep 14 Then June 13 Quote so really, when it all goes down, all I have to do (minimum) is wait until the new version has been tested & the developer issues the update recognised by Thunderbird? do the add on's work the same way as TB? automatically informing me that theres an update available or would I have to keep clicking tools > add-ons > find updates? Go to: Thunderbird Tools->Options->Advanced->Update See: Automatically check for updates to: Thunderbird Installed Add-ons I check both 'on'. I have had the notice pop up, that a new version of an add-on is available. If memory serves me correctly, it happens when Thunderbird is loading - not later after you have Thunderbird up and running. I seem to think that I have also found the new version by checking it myself manually. Perhaps the auto-notification doesn't work 100% of the time, or perhaps I was typing something else and didn't see it, and accidentally closed it. I really don't know. What I do, is not worry about it. Some day it will hit me, "Gee, it seems like it has been a good long time since I clicked on that thing to check to see if there were any new versions. I'll do that right now." By the way, if (when) it fails one time to connect, etc., don't assume that it is "broken". I think MS has little hiccups often with hotmail. It doesn't even phase me if it fails. I just click it again, and go about my business. If it fails consistently, over a period of time.... that is when I start wondering. First thing to check is to be sure that I didn't phat phinger the password! Did you check out that file with yesterday's date on it, at the Google Group for the Webmail developer? I'm wondering if it is newer than whatever you were trying, and if it would get you going with your AOL stuff. lol phat phinger it! Nuh, I'm not gonna bother with AOL now, I'm happy atm - we'll see how it goes... Thanks again mate for answering all the questions!You're very welcome. For anybody else reading along: I see comments here: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=3274448#3274448 regarding AOL changing and errors. Feb 28. New version for AOL available Feb 29. "Comodo Dragon" is the Webmail developer. |
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