Solve : Trouble learning to program?

1.	Solve : Trouble learning to program?
Answer» i tried learning a program also. i tried vb. then java. sad to say dat i really dono how to program. grrrr or may i'm just too d**. maybe my brain is stained already (sigh!). or maybe i need to learn word for word about DOS, since i just know basic DOS....grrrr.... i dono, i'm a frustrated programmer forever .There is not much need to learn anything about DOS, unless you intend to travel BACK in time. I would highly suggest against language-hopping. Although you might find a language you prefere more, I feel you are just doing it because you gave up too easily, and continuing this will demoralise you futher. I would suggest sticking around with Visual Basic a bit more? What version are you using, and what tutorials? What can you do? Do you know how to create a simple form with some buttons and text boxes?ya i give up easily. too bad for me. nwys, my vb is 2005 express edition. my first prog was my lucky seven. after that, i didn't make any from vb. i tried java also but i dono how to save the hello world...grrrr...and i dono i to compile and run it. grr and another grrr.... right now, i'm doing python(i read it from the previous topic). kinda interesting. hope i will not give up on this one.I can't see any particular reason why you gave up so QUICKLY on Visual Basic. What is your ultimate goal? What kind of programs do you want to make?just anything i can make, hopefully. depending on the program that i will learn in the future. right now, just concentrating on python. hope i can learn from this one w/o giving up. tsk tsk tsk, bad for me coz i usually start w/o finishing . i will just cross my fingers. hope i can learn and will be learning.You know what I think you need? A book. I know, it seems dumb with all the online tutorials out there, but I think they're only good as a reference, sometimes not even that. But there's something about cracking open a book that gets the mind going. Plus, the books you buy have to go through peer reviews before publishing, so the content is much better. Check your local bookstore, or some of these links: http://tinyurl.com/3dcpfw http://safari.oreilly.com/1592000738 http://wiki.python.org/moin/BeginnersGuide/Programmers Some of these you can read online. Take it slow. I first tried to learn C++ two years ago, and I failed utterly. Today, Neil can tell you that I've got a long way to go, but I'm improving steadily. I'm getting to the point where I can write utilities for my computer, and I'm working on more complex concepts like Object-Oriented-Programming. It's a long road, but the rewards are excellent. When I mean "take it slow", I really mean it. My C++ book says I can learn the language in 21 days, but that's a huge LOAD of bologna. Take your time, learn individual concepts before moving on. If I knew Python, I'd probably give more detailed advice. Sadly, I don't. However, I'm sure some people here do, and I know there are Python forums, with people who can answer questions you have. One of the hardest things I learned is that, sometimes, the only way to progress is to ask people for help. And it is quite embarrassing for me, sometimes, to have people look at your code and say, "you're doing it wrong." But it allows for progress. Good luck learning Python. I may not be able to help with specifics, but I am* proficient in the concepts of programming in general, as is Neil, here. (I don't know how much Python he knows, so I'll make no assumptions.) If you've got any questions, ask away. We'll be here - most of the time, anyway. My portfolio, as such... C++ Javascript PHP (learning) Blitz Basic VB, but a long time ago and I've forgotten No Python My own: Interpreted batch (X)HTML CSS XML (been a while) JavaScript (somewhat spotty, but it's there)* Compiled Visual Basic (very spotty) C++ (learning) No Python for me, either. I also know a couple program-specific interpreted "languages", such as writing events for the old Civilization II, and a couple other program-specific stuff, but they don't really count. *Yes, I know that JS is based on Java, based on C++. However, it's a heck of a lot easier to do "document.write()" than C++ will ever be. Quote from: javanesence on March 30, 2007, 05:05:25 PM just anything i can make, hopefully. depending on the program that i will learn in the future. right now, just concentrating on python. hope i can learn from this one w/o giving up. tsk tsk tsk, bad for me coz i usually start w/o finishing . i will just cross my fingers. hope i can learn and will be learning. Python is very easy to learn. go to the official documentation site. Take the tutorial and browse through the site. If there's anything you are stuck, you can ask here (or other forum). I or the good ppl here will help if we can. You won't regret learning Python. Quote from: Dilbert on March 30, 2007, 05:55:52 PM *Yes, I know that JS is based on Java.... On the contraryBASED on, ghostdog, not the same. Similar concepts, somewhat different syntax and very different implementation. I know. Just dont give up like that. I read a C++ book that was thin and basic, but it took me over a year to understand it. Heres some advice: If you like math, and are good at it, you will enjoy computorer programming. Think about it, Int I=100; Int H= 0 Int A=60 Int Math = I * H + A It would equal 60. Just like algabra. If you hate math, computor programming may not be for you. If anything ends up more STRESS than PLEASURE... you should find somthing else to do. I'm not saying you said quit, but im just saying Dont try to catch a train that isnt coming.... If you work hard, you can do anything....if you want to program bad enough you can do it im not going to be a cheerleader for ya but this may help .you dont know witch language you want to learn because you have no direction are you looking to program games make windows applications ? perhaps a.i. chater BOT to talk to there are only as many limitations as your motivation imagination and drive . Find what you enjoy doing on computers then find out what language it was written in if you arn't enjoying the jorney to programing then you could be traveling the wrong path .but my best wishes to you .you can do it if you are motivated and want it enough.

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i tried learning a program also. i tried vb. then java. sad to say dat i really dono how to program. grrrr or may i'm just too d***. maybe my brain is stained already (sigh!). or maybe i need to learn word for word about DOS, since i just know basic DOS....grrrr....

i dono, i'm a frustrated programmer forever .There is not much need to learn anything about DOS, unless you intend to travel BACK in time. I would highly suggest against language-hopping. Although you might find a language you prefere more, I feel you are just doing it because you gave up too easily, and continuing this will demoralise you futher.

I would suggest sticking around with Visual Basic a bit more? What version are you using, and what tutorials? What can you do? Do you know how to create a simple form with some buttons and text boxes?ya i give up easily. too bad for me.

nwys, my vb is 2005 express edition. my first prog was my lucky seven. after that, i didn't make any from vb.

i tried java also but i dono how to save the hello world...grrrr...and i dono i to compile and run it. grr and another grrr....

right now, i'm doing python(i read it from the previous topic). kinda interesting. hope i will not give up on this one.I can't see any particular reason why you gave up so QUICKLY on Visual Basic. What is your ultimate goal? What kind of programs do you want to make?just anything i can make, hopefully. depending on the program that i will learn in the future. right now, just concentrating on python. hope i can learn from this one w/o giving up.

tsk tsk tsk, bad for me coz i usually start w/o finishing .

i will just cross my fingers. hope i can learn and will be learning.You know what I think you need?

A book.

I know, it seems dumb with all the online tutorials out there, but I think they're only good as a reference, sometimes not even that. But there's something about cracking open a book that gets the mind going. Plus, the books you buy have to go through peer reviews before publishing, so the content is much better.

Check your local bookstore, or some of these links:

http://tinyurl.com/3dcpfw
http://safari.oreilly.com/1592000738
http://wiki.python.org/moin/BeginnersGuide/Programmers

Some of these you can read online. Take it slow. I first tried to learn C++ two years ago, and I failed utterly. Today, Neil can tell you that I've got a long way to go, but I'm improving steadily. I'm getting to the point where I can write utilities for my computer, and I'm working on more complex concepts like Object-Oriented-Programming. It's a long road, but the rewards are excellent.

When I mean "take it slow", I really mean it. My C++ book says I can learn the language in 21 days, but that's a huge LOAD of bologna. Take your time, learn individual concepts before moving on.

If I knew Python, I'd probably give more detailed advice. Sadly, I don't. However, I'm sure some people here do, and I know there are Python forums, with people who can answer questions you have. One of the hardest things I learned is that, sometimes, the only way to progress is to ask people for help. And it is quite embarrassing for me, sometimes, to have people look at your code and say, "you're doing it wrong." But it allows for progress.

Good luck learning Python. I may not be able to help with specifics, but I *am* proficient in the concepts of programming in general, as is Neil, here. (I don't know how much Python he knows, so I'll make no assumptions.) If you've got any questions, ask away. We'll be here - most of the time, anyway. My portfolio, as such...

C++
Javascript
PHP (learning)
Blitz Basic
VB, but a long time ago and I've forgotten

No Python My own:

Interpreted

batch
(X)HTML
CSS
XML (been a while)
JavaScript (somewhat spotty, but it's there)*

Compiled

Visual Basic (very spotty)
C++ (learning)

No Python for me, either. I also know a couple program-specific interpreted "languages", such as writing events for the old Civilization II, and a couple other program-specific stuff, but they don't really count.

*Yes, I know that JS is based on Java, based on C++. However, it's a heck of a lot easier to do "document.write()" than C++ will ever be. Quote from: javanesence on March 30, 2007, 05:05:25 PM

just anything i can make, hopefully. depending on the program that i will learn in the future. right now, just concentrating on python. hope i can learn from this one w/o giving up.

tsk tsk tsk, bad for me coz i usually start w/o finishing .

i will just cross my fingers. hope i can learn and will be learning.

Python is very easy to learn. go to the official documentation site. Take the tutorial and browse through the site. If there's anything you are stuck, you can ask here (or other forum). I or the good ppl here will help if we can. You won't regret learning Python.

Quote from: Dilbert on March 30, 2007, 05:55:52 PM

*Yes, I know that JS is based on Java....

On the contraryBASED on, ghostdog, not the same. Similar concepts, somewhat different syntax and very different implementation. I know. Just dont give up like that. I read a C++ book that was thin and basic, but it took me over a year to understand it. Heres some advice:
If you like math, and are good at it, you will enjoy computorer programming.
Think about it,

Int I=100;
Int H= 0
Int A=60
Int Math = I * H + A

It would equal 60.
Just like algabra. If you hate math, computor programming may not be for you.

If anything ends up more STRESS than PLEASURE... you should find somthing else to do. I'm not saying you said quit, but im just saying
Dont try to catch a train that isnt coming....
If you work hard, you can do anything....if you want to program bad enough you can do it im not going to be a cheerleader for ya but this may help .you dont know witch language you want to learn because you have no direction are you looking to program games make windows applications ? perhaps a.i. chater BOT to talk to there are only as many limitations as your motivation imagination and drive . Find what you enjoy doing on computers then find out what language it was written in if you arn't enjoying the jorney to programing then you could be traveling the wrong path .but my best wishes to you .you can do it if you are motivated and want it enough.

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