Solve : Issue with a Microsoft Publisher document?

1.	Solve : Issue with a Microsoft Publisher document?
Answer» This post is more in line with a request for "why does this happen this way" event than trying to solve something. I am posting on behalf of my wife that has had this event occur.Some preliminaries: 1.The .pub document was CREATED quite some time AGO on a desktop HP using a version of Microsoft publisher and the windows ME operating system. 2.She desired to transfer the document from the HP to a Cisnet desktop that has the same Microsoft publisher version plus a more recent version installed on it.Computer O/S= windows xp media centre. 3.She successfully installed the document to a USB flash drive on the HP (actually due to the issue 3 different flash drives were tried). 4.When she brings the flash drive to the Cisnet the document is seen in an icon but when an attempt is made to open (view) it the message is "file unknown", Same on 3 different flash drives. 5.However when the document is burned to a floppy (internal drive) on the HP and brought over to the floppy (external usb) on the Cisnet it is seen and can be opened and read. So the question is why does this happen? If i need to provide more information please ask.truenorthSounds to me from the icon description she merely copied a shortcut to the file... Next time have her open the document and from the File Menu choose Save As.patio, Thanks for the reply. She (on the HP) did do a save as and directed it to drive J which was the flash drive. In both cases the document was open on the HP when the save as function was used to all 3 flash drives and the only difference was when it was saved to the floppy the appropriate A drive was selected. So it appears not to be that.As far as she can recollect other than the changed destination all other factors were identical.truenorthOnly other thing i can think is try it with the flash drive in a rear port.Are the flash drives FAT or NTFS, and did she use the Safely Remove dialog? patio, She will try that next time she has the Cisnet on and i will report. Salmon Trout , Yes she did use the safely remove in all cases.Now re the file format of the flash drives. I had originally (before posting) asked her that question. The answer i got was what??? . However here is where i go into an over my head situation--I would believe that the win ME computer file system is most likely FAT32 and the XP i suppose could be either. I was of the belief that NTFS was backward compatible whereas FAT32 is not forward compatible. Just to further complicate that possibility is that she has used these same flash drives to transfer other data (not .pub files) from the HP to the same Cisnet without issue. In fact some of those files are still on the flash drives and can be opened and read. So the issue seems (to me at least) to be involving the .pub file format on flash drives.But of course i really don't know that to be the case.I know i mentioned the file format of the computers HDD and not the flash drives. But given their previous use with other files i cannot see how that could be a FACTOR as they have not been reformatted ever. truenorth P.S.Lest it be concidered a contributing factor all 3 flash drives are of a different mfg.QUOTE from: truenorth on January 02, 2013, 08:01:40 AM a Cisnet desktop that has the same Microsoft publisher version plus a more recent version installed on it. Multiple versions of Publisher on the same machine? How does it know which version to use? Quote from: Salmon Trout on January 02, 2013, 03:24:50 PM Multiple versions of Publisher on the same machine? How does it know which version to use? Nice catch ! !...Yes i think so too (and wondered why she has that). I shall ask and find out why and how if at all she defines which one is accessed? Your not going to like this ==her answer was "how would i know". OK so i want to remain in the mutually beneficial relationship we have had for over 50 years. So you will appreciate my reluctance to prod any more in that direction. However i would point out that even under those circumstances the ability to install/transfer/access/read the data is without issue if it arrives on a floppy.So i don't see how that could be an issue re flash drives and not a floppy. By the way the same version 2002 is on both computers and 2007 is additionally on the Cisnet. To the question why have both on the Cisnet the answer is= because i am concerned that there are functions that are available on the 2002 that are not available on the 2007 (however at this point when queried she is NOT aware of any). I would have a hard time trying to persuade her to remove the 2002 version from the Cisnet because there is validity to that argument from my personal knowledge. I continue to use a very early version of Easy CD creator from Roxio because it contains a component (which i use often) that is not a component of all the later versions. truenorthI can understand hanging ONTO old valued versions but there can be issues when different versions of the same software are installed side by side. In fact many programs check for earlier versions, including (I thought) MS Office and its components. Quote Your not going to like this ==her answer was "how would i know". OK so i want to remain in the mutually beneficial relationship we have had for over 50 years. So you will appreciate my reluctance to prod any more in that direction. I certainly got a chuckle outta this one...

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This post is more in line with a request for "why does this happen this way" event than trying to solve something. I am posting on behalf of my wife that has had this event occur.Some preliminaries:
1.The .pub document was CREATED quite some time AGO on a desktop HP using a version of Microsoft publisher and the windows ME operating system.
2.She desired to transfer the document from the HP to a Cisnet desktop that has the same Microsoft publisher version plus a more recent version installed on it.Computer O/S= windows xp media centre.
3.She successfully installed the document to a USB flash drive on the HP (actually due to the issue 3 different flash drives were tried).
4.When she brings the flash drive to the Cisnet the document is seen in an icon but when an attempt is made to open (view) it the message is "file unknown", Same on 3 different flash drives.
5.However when the document is burned to a floppy (internal drive) on the HP and brought over to the floppy (external usb) on the Cisnet it is seen and can be opened and read.
So the question is why does this happen? If i need to provide more information please ask.truenorthSounds to me from the icon description she merely copied a shortcut to the file...
Next time have her open the document and from the File Menu choose Save As.patio, Thanks for the reply. She (on the HP) did do a save as and directed it to drive J which was the flash drive. In both cases the document was open on the HP when the save as function was used to all 3 flash drives and the only difference was when it was saved to the floppy the appropriate A drive was selected. So it appears not to be that.As far as she can recollect other than the changed destination all other factors were identical.truenorthOnly other thing i can think is try it with the flash drive in a rear port.Are the flash drives FAT or NTFS, and did she use the Safely Remove dialog?
patio, She will try that next time she has the Cisnet on and i will report.
Salmon Trout , Yes she did use the safely remove in all cases.Now re the file format of the flash drives. I had originally (before posting) asked her that question. The answer i got was what??? . However here is where i go into an over my head situation--I would believe that the win ME computer file system is most likely FAT32 and the XP i suppose could be either. I was of the belief that NTFS was backward compatible whereas FAT32 is not forward compatible. Just to further complicate that possibility is that she has used these same flash drives to transfer other data (not .pub files) from the HP to the same Cisnet without issue. In fact some of those files are still on the flash drives and can be opened and read. So the issue seems (to me at least) to be involving the .pub file format on flash drives.But of course i really don't know that to be the case.I know i mentioned the file format of the computers HDD and not the flash drives. But given their previous use with other files i cannot see how that could be a FACTOR as they have not been reformatted ever. truenorth
P.S.Lest it be concidered a contributing factor all 3 flash drives are of a different mfg.QUOTE from: truenorth on January 02, 2013, 08:01:40 AM

a Cisnet desktop that has the same Microsoft publisher version plus a more recent version installed on it.

Multiple versions of Publisher on the same machine? How does it know which version to use?
Quote from: Salmon Trout on January 02, 2013, 03:24:50 PM

Multiple versions of Publisher on the same machine? How does it know which version to use?

Nice catch ! !...Yes i think so too (and wondered why she has that). I shall ask and find out why and how if at all she defines which one is accessed?
Your not going to like this ==her answer was "how would i know". OK so i want to remain in the mutually beneficial relationship we have had for over 50 years. So you will appreciate my reluctance to prod any more in that direction. However i would point out that even under those circumstances the ability to install/transfer/access/read the data is without issue if it arrives on a floppy.So i don't see how that could be an issue re flash drives and not a floppy. By the way the same version 2002 is on both computers and 2007 is additionally on the Cisnet. To the question why have both on the Cisnet the answer is= because i am concerned that there are functions that are available on the 2002 that are not available on the 2007 (however at this point when queried she is NOT aware of any). I would have a hard time trying to persuade her to remove the 2002 version from the Cisnet because there is validity to that argument from my personal knowledge. I continue to use a very early version of Easy CD creator from Roxio because it contains a component (which i use often) that is not a component of all the later versions. truenorthI can understand hanging ONTO old valued versions but there can be issues when different versions of the same software are installed side by side. In fact many programs check for earlier versions, including (I thought) MS Office and its components.
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Your not going to like this ==her answer was "how would i know". OK so i want to remain in the mutually beneficial relationship we have had for over 50 years. So you will appreciate my reluctance to prod any more in that direction.

I certainly got a chuckle outta this one...

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