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Solve : 4.36 GB movied does not fit on 7.99 GB USB drive?

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Yes, I formatted the USB flash drive with Windows XP.
Then it said the drive was a 7.99 GB,  it was sold as a 8 GB flash.
Now I have a movie I downloaded and XP says  it is 4.36 GB.
Wren I try to copy from may hard drive to the flash, it says there is not enough space. How can that be?

So, I think that maybe it ought to be NTFS rather than FAT32.
But, XP will not let me format the flash drive  as NTFS.
So what do it do? Give up?   
I have a Windows XP Pro SP3 system at home and never ran into this issue, and I use a 16GB thumb drive. When i get out of work  and home in about 2 hrs I'll check on this on my system. Maybe it was formatted NTFS with my Win 7 system. Pretty SURE I have choice of NTFS or FAT32 on XP for thumb drives, but cant confirm from work on 1:18am dinner break. ....speaking of 1:18am, I just noticed that the minutes are way off on my post. Shows 10:38:40 and its 01:18:xx here on the east coast. Would have expected 10:18:40 or 11:18:40 depending on timezone of CH server.
4GB file limit with FAT32.

Use HP Formatting Tool to format to NTFS
http://download.cnet.com/HP-USB-Disk-Storage-Format-Tool/3000-2094_4-10974082.html

Or use HJSplit to split the movie into smaller files.
Looks like the tool that Carbon suggested is the way to go unless you have access to a Windows 7 system to format the thumb drive to NTFS. *Might be able to do this with Vista as well, but I don't own Vista to confirm. I had 1 copy of it and sold it dirt cheap to get rid of it, then later realized i should have kept it for support purposes...  **Also might be able to format it NTFS with a Linux distro.

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4GB file limit with FAT32.

Use HP Formatting Tool to format to NTFS
http://download.cnet.com/HP-USB-Disk-Storage-Format-Tool/3000-2094_4-10974082.html

Or use HJSplit to split the movie into smaller files.

I took a 8GB thumb drive I bought cheap on black friday staples promo but haven't used yet out of package and plugged it into my older Windows XP Pro SP3 box and it only allows FAT32 formatting and doesn't offer NTFS just as you experienced. I guess I haven't noticed this issue yet because I don't have any files larger than 4GB to save to the thumb drive.

Just used my Windows 7 Home Premium 32-bit computer to format my thumb drive to NTFS. This drive works no problems with XP Pro SP3. *I guess I am going to have to go through my small pile of thumb drives and convert all but the Bootable Linux drives to NTFS if they aren't NTFS already to avoid this problem at some point in the future.  Thanks to Carbon Dudeoxide,
He solution is the best. Hp has a program for XP.
Yes, XP can read NTFS from a flash drive. Just doesn't let you create it.
If you have a video file that was ripped from a DVD, it can be over 4 GB unless you use compression. So once in awhile I do find some large video files. I put such on my 8 GB thumb drive to share with others in my household. That HP link is the way to go for anyone else that wants to do it from the XP machine.
Problem solved!
There's a theory that flash drives formatted NTFS last less long because the file format does 3 times as many read/writes...just so you know.
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There's a theory that flash drives formatted NTFS last less long because the file format does 3 times as many read/writes...just so you know.
I don't put much credence into it however.

hmm... never heard of this, especially the 3x more R/W. Just out of curiosity I am going to try a transfer of a file between FAT32 and NTFS to see if NTFS lags 3x in relation to FAT32. It was my assumption that NTFS was mainly for security/ownership of data and larger file/partition support. I have a 1GB patch file for a game that comes to mind as a good test. Will be interesting to stop watch it and see what DIFFERENCE there is if any noticable difference. I expected the transfer to be almost equal. In another 6 hrs when I get off of work, I will give this a test and report back with my findings.NTFS is a journalled FS so it will have more writes.

Though I doubt it makes a difference in the grand scheme. By the time it would matter, you've probably already replaced it anyway. I had a 256MB Flash Drive last around 7 years from heavy everyday use (as in, completely rewrite everything stored on it). On the other hand, NTFS does have methods that can actually make it take fewer reads and writes to read/store data, so I imagine it would even out anyway.

As for speed, NTFS is almost always faster, but it depends on the operation. With FAT/FAT32, if a program tries to find a file that doesn't exist, the FS DRIVER has to look through all the file entries in that directory to confirm it, whereas NTFS uses a Binary Tree structure that makes that search far quicker. This can be prevalent if you often search for files in directories with a lot of files.

NTFS is faster if file data is fragmented, or if the files are small. It's about equal for large files, and of course files >4GB have no comparator for FAT32 which cannot have files that large.For reference:
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exFAT
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
exFAT (Extended File Allocation Table) is a Microsoft file system optimized for flash drives.[3] It is proprietary and patent-pending.[1] It is supported in Windows XP and Windows Server 2003 with update KB955704,[2] Windows Embedded CE 6.0, Windows Vista with Service Pack 1,[4] Windows Server 2008,[5] Windows 7, Windows 8, Windows Server 2008 R2 (except Windows Server 2008 Server Core), MAC OS X Snow Leopard starting from 10.6.5,[6] Mac OS X Lion and OS X Mountain Lion.

exFAT can be used where the NTFS file system is not a feasible solution, due to data structure overhead, or where the file size limit of the standard FAT32 file system (that is, without FAT+ extension[7]) is unacceptable.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExFATAbout 4 years ago, I bought a replacement DVD player with a USB port and I bought an 8GB flash drive (not cheap at that time) so I could transfer material from the PC to watch on the TV. Immediately I started saving money because I wasn't burning disks. I formatted the flash drive with NTFS. That drive has been in daily use ever since and is showing no sign of failure. If it does, 8 GB is pretty much entry level size nowadays. That's the moral of this tale. (By the time they wear out you won't care.) Anyhow, now I have a home network, a NAS with DLNA and a TV likewise so goodbye PHYSICAL media. (Another moral)



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