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Before I do any deleting in Windows, I want to make sure:

In Windows XP, if you delete files in C:\Windows\Installer, are you deleting what was installed, or just the instructions that were used to install it? 

How do you know what an installer was for if you can't find the name of the program in plain words?

How do I find out if an installer is for a game program?  Wouldn't I need that installer if I want to put the game on a different drive?

Also:

In C:WINDOWS

If you delete a file that is used to uninstall something, are you still going to be able to uninstall it later?



 
http://www.theexperienceblog.com/2009/05/16/how-to-clean-out-windowsinstaller-folder-correctly/ Quote from: BC_Programmer on July 08, 2012, 06:13:19 PM

regarding C:\Windows\Installer

Those numbers are not extremely atypical; my win7 machine has around 10GB in that folder alone. However your drive is a lot smaller so that is a sizable chunk of the disk.

The folder itself stores the installers for all programs installed using Windows Installer. The purpose is so that you can add or remove features from those programs. without the original installer file.

You can use a tool such as the Windows Installer cleanup utility to clean-up that folder. Bear in mind that this will mean you need "original media" (either the DISKS or the original setup programs) for some programs to change them using add/remove in the control panel.

If you delete them you won't be able to remove them without having the installer file. (re-download or use the original msi file) that's sort of why it keeps them around.theexperienceblog.com/2009/05/16/how-to-clean-out-windowsinstaller-folder-correctly

This ultimately leads me to this:
support.microsoft.com/mats/Program_Install_and_Uninstall
The Fix-It tool that doesn't seem to have fixed anything.  I had over 1 GB of free space after I uninstalled a big program and, without a doubt, installed it elsewhere.  I got pop-up for 12 Microsoft security updates and my computer overheats and shuts down when trying to install them.  This has happened several times.  I was down to under 400 MB and am currently up to 600.  Whatever the problem is, Fix-It didn't fix it. 


majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=4459/

This doesn't give me any way to monitor it as it's working, if it's working, and doesn't give me any kind of report of the results.

Isn't there any way to compare what's installed with installers and uninstallers to make sure there isn't anything left behind that can be deleted?  Or is that what the programs you told me about supposed to do?

Quote from: Starwind51 on July 15, 2012, 01:29:20 PM
I got pop-up for 12 Microsoft security updates and my computer overheats and shuts down when trying to install them.  Whatever the problem is, Fix-It didn't fix it.
The overheating problem is probably the core cause of your problems. If the computer is shut down while installing updates, it leaves things in an inconsistent STATE.



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Isn't there any way to compare what's installed with installers and uninstallers to make sure there isn't anything left behind that can be deleted? 
Uninstalling a program will usually remove it's Installer file from the folder. There are no "uninstallers" preserved in that folder. The one file has the logic and data for installation and simply does the reverse when uninstallation is required.

I figure your problem stems from your hardware issues. A computer shouldn't overheat while being used under normal circumstances. I've noticed that when my computer slows way down (or used to get the hard drive whirling wildly fast) and snaps off due to overheating, I later get some kind of message telling me updates are ready to be installed.  The computer then overheats and snaps off when these things are being installed.  As has been previously pointed out, I've probably got a lot of partially installed updates repeatedly partially installed.  The suggestions made don't seem to have cleaned them out. 

(Clicking on the DriverScanner just seems to briefly flash the logo of the scanner.  No window opens to show what it's doing, if it's doing anything, and no report is given.)

Here is a picture of the CCleaner checklist.  Aside from occasionally turning on Recent Documents and Recycle Bin, I don't use the items not checked because I don't know what they are System Items are and Advanced has a warning exclamation mark.  Would running any of these items be of use to my choked hard drive or overheating problems?



 

[year+ old attachment deleted by admin]Probably no reason to start a new Topic as some Helpers may miss the full story...

Just sayin...I thought it had gotten sufficiently away from the original question to be in a different section of the forum.

Here are some specific C:\Windows questions:

In the C:\Windows\Downloaded Programs File are 6 items, all measured in KB.  Four of them relate to games, and I'm not dealing with them now.  One is an ActiveX controller for Symantec; I no LONGER use Symantec products.  One is an ActiveX controller for Window Genuine Advantage; this file was created in 2006.  How do I get rid of the Symantec and the Genuine Advantage files and make sure everything is gone?  They don't take up MUCH space, but I don't need them.  Genuine Advantage occasionally wants to check my computer anyway.

In the C:\Windows\Downloaded Installations folder are 6 folders, ranging from 6 to 63 MB.  One is the shortcut to the folder itself.  Two relate to iTunes - they were created on different dates in 2005.  I don't use iTunes, so I'm sure I have nothing in those cabinets.  One is for the Adobe Photoshop Starter Edition, created in 2004, and I'm sure I don't actually have this product actually installed anymore.  I never used it, so I wouldn't have anything stored in it.  One is URGE, which I also don't recall ever actually using, so wouldn't have anything stored in it.  Aside from the shortcut to the folder, how do I delete these things and make sure everything related is gone?

In the C:\Windows Folder itself are a gazillion $Uninstall folders.  I'm afraid to open them to investigate, but what is spuninst?

And the biggest question is the biggest folder:
C:\Windows\Installer
The list of what's inside goes on forever, just about.
The last 7 items are wix MIDI files.  The Windows Media Player can't open them.  They all end in .SchedServiceConfig.rmi.  I'm guessing these midis aren't anything I couldn't find again if I wanted to.  How can I try to open them or get rid of these files if I can't?

The next to last group of folders in the the Installer file are Word docs ending in .tmp.  Since these files are in code, I have no idea what most of them are.  Are these saved copies of what I was working on when my computer overheats and snaps off?  I've pretty much moved all my Word docs off the C drive, so how do I get rid of these folders and make sure everything related is gone?


[year+ old attachment deleted by admin]Insanity: Asking the same question over and over and expecting a different answer.

I'm done here. Quote from: BC_Programmer on July 16, 2012, 05:00:32 AM
Insanity: Asking the same question over and over and expecting a different answer.

I'm done here.

Well, I'd like to be done with not getting answers.  A few years ago I stopped using Symantec products - uninstalled, deleted everything.  I was assured it was all gone.  Yet I look at the Installer folder and there's something by Symantec.  So it's a legitimate question: How do I make sure everything is gone?

How do I know if I click on an Uninstall file if it will simply open or if it will go straight to uninstalling?

There are many Word files in the Installer folder.  I don't know what they're there for.  If you can't cope with answering my questions, I'll gladly take an answer for any other qualified person.


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