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Something has kidnapped my Control Panel entry from the Start Panel and I cannot get it back.  I have a high end dual processor XPSP2 system.  I am the administrator, but higher powers( read, I think, Norton/Symantic ) are BLOCKING me from some normal administrator functions.  Also, I cannot go 24 hours without a crash!!!  Any thoughts or suggestions will be much appreciated.  I do not have virus problems or anyother gremblems that any virus scans, from Norton and others can detect and I am careful about letting things in so I don't think the problem lies in that direction.  Am also using the Microsoft Beta 'System One Care' which I think has the potential for being a great program.

Thanks you in advance for any assistance.

 Dave Bjorkgrenmtnbrk......  Did this disappearance coincide with the installation of the Beta .....
One Care Live ?
It is quite possible that there is some interaction between that app and Symantec ......... I would be inclined to attempt to remove the Beta app or contact MicroSoft ....they may have a solution .

Are you able to get to your system restore feature and restore back to just before this occurred ?

dl65  Thank you for responding.  It's a good THOUGHT and I already contacted Microsoft 2 days ago, but have not received a response from them, like I expected to.  Unfortunately, because I cannot get to my control panel I cannot remove any programs, at least the Windows way.

I work alone now( and have for many years ) so don't have many people to bounce questions off of.  That's one of the problems of indepence, no one to talk to that know much about computers.  I am very hopeful about this site and hope that I can contribute to it.

Davemtnbrk......I guess you have tried using the search feature to see if it shows up anywhere .

dl65  Forgot one thing about your response.  As part of the overall administrative functions I cannot do is system restore.  That is one of the first things I tried.  I set system restore points to be performed every day and have gone back 2 months without luck.  Whatever it is it will not perform the restore.

Did I mention that I'm not a big fan of Windows and its complexities.  Some how or other I think things should be simpler.  I wish they would stop being all things to all people.

Just saw your post about searching.  Do you know that there are 143 *.cpl files on my system?  Try it on yours and see how many there are.  How do you know which one is the one that you should run.  Tried a few that seemed obvious, like from Microsoft, but no luck.

Davemtnbrk.... Just had another thought ...have you tried rebooting into safe mode and see if control panel is still there ?

dl65  Very good thought and one that did not occur to me.  Unfortunately it did not work.  I do not have a control panel there either .  

I'll give you an example of the kind of problem I'm having.  I clicked on 'Set Program Access and Defaults.  What I get is a message 'This operation has been cancelled due to restrictions in effect on this computer.  Please contact your system administrator'.  *censored*, I am the system administrator!! now DWIM( Do What I Mean ).

I've even gotten to the point where I tried to reload Window's XP and all that entails.  I can't even do that.  Fortunately I can continue on with my implementation, but I know that I am just sitting on a powder keg and that it's going to blow anytime now.......  Well, lots of backups.  Fortunately I have 2 160GB disks on my system so backups aren't that TEDIOUS.  It's just that things should not be that way.mtnbrk....  You say that you CANNOT format and reinstall XP ..... Now thats REALLY odd ........ How were you attempting to do the install ? I'm sure that some of my questions may seem odd , but the answer may lead to a solution .
By any chance , do you have a floppy drive ?


dl65  
Yes, but I tried to re-install from the original CD.  Does that make a difference?

I did make a full set of recovery 6 3 1/2" floppy disks when I first got this system.  Are you suggesting that I try them?mtnbrk.......  Ok .....If you have a original win XP disk thats good ......... Please explain how you attempted to reinstall it ?  


dl65  I mounted it in the drive and waited.  The automatic boot did not happen so I went directly to the disk and clicked on setup.exe.  My CD-R drive does have automatic load.

I did get the Window where you can make choices and I clicked on Install( I think that's what the menu says ) and it kicked me out.

mtnbrk.......
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My CD-R drive does have automatic load.
Please explain what you mean by this .... If the disk is bootable it will load .......
Lets have another go at this ........
first go into the bios and set your boot sequence to CD-rom first boot ....
then save the setting and exit .
Next put the bootable win XP cd in your cd-rom .
Now shutdown and restart your machine .......

Please tell us what happens

dl65  
OK.  You're going to loose me for awhile while I go through it.  Will post when I'm back on the air.

Dave
Ok ...... Go for it I'll keep an eye out for you .
BTW ...Do you have SP2 on that cd ?  ( It will make your reinstall faster )


dl65  Thanks again for your attention.

No I did not have SP2 on the disk, just SP1.  But that brings up some issues that I think may have caused my problem.  That doesn't say that I have a solution yet.

During the install I had a number of files that could not be read.  They were files that seemed to be Java related such as javacypt.dll, jdbgmgr.exe, javapecn.hlp and so forth.  We all know Microsoft's feeling about Java so I figgured that these were just part of the ongoing battle.  One file did bother me though which was clspack.exe.  I haven't done a search yet on this one, just thought I'd mention it.

I did get another message that was troublesome which was, at the 9 minutes to go mark: "has not passed Window Logo TESTING to verify its compatabliliy with Window XP.  This software will not be installed.  Contact your System Administrator."  But it kept going and seemed to go through the entire install process.  One thing to note is that I have not added any hardware to this system since I bought it so I don't know what they were referring to since they did not mention what they were not installing.  I have also used the Microsoft Site where they look at your hardware configuration to verify that it is suitable for XP.

Now the interesting part.  I have the XP SP2 CD so before I did anything, except to verify that I still did not have access to the control panel, I attempted to install it.  This stopped very early with a message that I still had an application running called smss.exe.  I went to the internet and searched on this name.  This is a problem file which can carry a worm which is known by many names.  For example 'W32.Dalbug.Worm", W32/Ladex.worm, etc.  There are more than one file involved.  The list I have accumulated so far is: smss.exe, csrss.exe, Lady.exe, W32.Dalbug.worm, WNT.XdalBug.worm.  The smss.exe and csrss.exe are Microsoft Windows required files, but someone learned how to modify them and span other things including taking over the Control Panel and if you do certain things will corrupt the register( Is Microsoft going to continue this insane design into their new operating system? ).

I think I know how I got it.  I think it has been in my system for a very long time, perhaps since almost day 1 which would be almost 2 years.  My system is a dual processor 3Mhz with 1GB of RAM.  I think it was able to hide itself until one of two things happened.

I recently moved and switched from DSL to Broadband.  That my prime suspect because there was information on my google search on smss.exe that aluded to it.

My second suspect is that we are switching over to Vonage for our phone system and to network my two systems( a powerful system in its day running Windows 98 ).

Now all I have to do is to figgure out what to do about it short of re-formatting my two hard disks and starting completely from scratch.

Any suggestions?

And again, thank you for all your attention.

Dave




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