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Answer» Hi guys! Does anyone know how to backup your drive to 'another' drive? (image I mean) I recently took an image of my C: drive and ended up having to replace it physically with another hard drive. When I tried to reinstall the image of the old drive to the new one, it wouldn't work! I had to start all over again. Is it possible to transfer images to other drives does anyone know, or are we stuck with having to use the same dive? This is OK until the drive needs replacing! This has been hashed over and over many times. If you are using an integrated package solution from Western Digital or Se agate, there should be no problem. The issues arise when different users try different software and hardware without fully understanding what is going on. Some backup solutions can backup most of your stuff, but not restore the system when it no longer works. To RESOLVE that issue, one has to prepare a backup plan that includes total failure of the OS. That requires a special CD that can boot up the PC and restore from a backup device that has a true image of the system. The link below is for one of the oldest superior products. http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/products/trueimage/ Hi!! I don't what to jump in to a topic that has been solved. Geek_9pm is right. If you replace a drive and have a image on a external drive, you should have a new drive at least as large as the drive you are replacing. W7 will warn you to make a recovery CD that you can boot to, should you ever have a hard drive failure; which happened to me. I know that Macrium Reflect and Paragon will help you make this CD also. I suppose acronis does the same thing. I'm a big fan of making a back up image of your OS, but have failed to warn people to also have a way to boot when you have a total failure and your HD just dies. I have so many recovery boot disks, I don't know which one to try first I have WINDOWS, Bart, Macrium Reflect, Paragon. My only trouble would be which one to try first I guess if a guy was really smart , he would restore a image on a secondary HD. put it in a drawer until he needed it. I think I have all the bases covered , but who really knows. Computers are enough to cause a person to drink. PS I have restored a image to a cold HD with Macrium Reflect and it worked perfectly. Here's a little trick I learned to get around a recovery CD. Use you rescue CD to put Windows back to out of the box; then use your back up image to restore the back up image you made before your HD died. That worked for me. I replaced my HD; went back to out of the box and then used a back up image I created on a external drive to put me back to the day I created that image. What do you think Geek_9pm?? Will that work?? Quote That worked for me. I replaced my HD; went back to out of the box and then used a back up image I created on a external drive to put me back to the day I created that image. What do you think Geek_9pm?? Will that work?? Yeah, I have don that. But I would not recommend it. Quote Yeah, I have don that. But I would not recommend it. I agree that that best way is a W PE or Bart PE or a CD from the back up program. Maybe I misunderstood the OP. Quote Is it possible to transfer images to other drives does anyone know, or are we stuck with having to use the same dive? This is OK until the drive needs replacing! Hmmmm, Thanx here guys for this feed back. Just found out that I will be needing a new C: very shortly so I will be following what you say here. You are right about the drinking... gona start (lol) Here's something I put together a while back. See if anything here is helpful: Disk Imaging software TAKES a "snapshot" of your drive as it exists at the time you create the image. You can then restore the entire image or any file(s) or folder(s) you choose. It is a virtually foolproof way of backing up your system and providing a safe haven in the event of a catastrophe that requires you to blow away your system partition and restore it to a previous state. It also allows you to "test" various software and be confident that you have a the ability to return to the prior state any time you choose. I use Acronis True Image. It is the best of breed, but it isn't free. The best free alternative is Macrium Reflect. 1) I create an image of my system partition once a week to a second hard drive and keep the 2 or 3 most recent images. I also image my other partitions about once a month. I always ENABLE "verify image" in the options. It takes a little longer, but insures a valid image. 2) I also create an image before performing any drive level function (ie, changing the size of a partition) or making any significant change to the OS (installing a service pack, upgrading IE, etc). Also sometimes before installing new software. 3) Images may be created on any medium (cd, dvd, external drive, etc). For obvious reasons they should not be stored on the same drive you are imaging. The best option is a second internal hd if you have one. 4) Images may be created "in the background" within the OS. If you need to restore the system partition, that will need to be done before the OS loads. You can start the process within the application in the OS and it will then tell you it needs to reboot to finish the process. Alternatively, you can boot to a "recovery disk" which you can create when you first INSTALL the software (or to the application disk itself if you have one). Other partitions can be restored without a reboot. Hi! Very nice reply Allan. Well explained. I have been using Macrium Relect for a long time. It has never let me down. I would just like to add that Macrium has a feature that allows you to mount your image. If will assign a drive letter to the image and allow you to copy and paste from it. It is a read only, so you can't change any thing, but great for grabbing a file ect, then copy and paste it back on your C drive. It is free, but the pro version has more bells and whistles. Also would like to add. Make a recovery CD right away and make sure you can boot with it. I really like the back up feature in W7. I use both. I also use Paragon. W7 back up and Paragon don't require you to use a recovery disk unless you can't boot your PC (Example your hard drive dies) I don't like starting over from out of the box. I fresh install can be good some times , but it's a lot of work. Thanks!! Find links here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_backup_softwareWow! Now that's quite a list!! No reason not to find one and use it regularly Guys I am knocked out by your responce here, but I still have the problem of having to get a new HD. How can I safely get the system image of my knackerd drive on to the new one? Create a boot or recovery disc with whatever imaging software you are using, boot to it, and restore the imageHi fellas, Listen, I have Acronis and Macrium gizmos, but they are both from computer mags. Acronis says that it is not compatable with my Win 7, so it looks like an XP job. Macrium gives me two choices of format LINUX and PE? If I choose the PE it dosn't work. This leaves me with a Paragon gizmo, again from a mag, but it appears to work. I have just made a bootable CD from it. How does PARAGON rate with you guys? The recent versions of Acronis True Image are most certainly compatible with W7 Quote How does PARAGON rate with you guys? Paragon is great. I have a friend that is a PC clean freak. He restores his PC once a week with Paragon. He says he likes a fresh PC. That's just a little over board for me. I have restored my OS with the recovery disk and without the disk. If your going to replace your HD, you will need the recovery disk. The only way I know that you don't need the disk is to restore back to factory and then down load Paragon and restore your image. The recovery disk is the best way to go. I don't know if this will work. I'm going to try to attach a Zip file. [year+ old attachment deleted by admin]

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Hi guys! Does anyone know how to backup your drive to 'another' drive? (image I mean)

I recently took an image of my C: drive and ended up having to replace it physically with another hard drive. When I tried to reinstall the image of the old drive to the new one, it wouldn't work!

I had to start all over again.

Is it possible to transfer images to other drives does anyone know, or are we stuck with having to use the same dive? This is OK until the drive needs replacing! This has been hashed over and over many times. If you are using an integrated package solution from Western Digital or Se agate, there should be no problem. The issues arise when different users try different software and hardware without fully understanding what is going on.

Some backup solutions can backup most of your stuff, but not restore the system when it no longer works. To RESOLVE that issue, one has to prepare a backup plan that includes total failure of the OS. That requires a special CD that can boot up the PC and restore from a backup device that has a true image of the system.

The link below is for one of the oldest superior products.
http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/products/trueimage/
Hi!! I don't what to jump in to a topic that has been solved. Geek_9pm is right. If you replace a drive and have a image on a external drive, you should have a new drive at least as large as the drive you are replacing. W7 will warn you to make a recovery CD that you can boot to, should you ever have a hard drive failure; which happened to me. I know that Macrium Reflect and Paragon will help you make this CD also. I suppose acronis does the same thing. I'm a big fan of making a back up image of your OS, but have failed to warn people to also have a way to boot when you have a total failure and your HD just dies. I have so many recovery boot disks, I don't know which one to try first I have WINDOWS, Bart, Macrium Reflect, Paragon. My only trouble would be which one to try first I guess if a guy was really smart , he would restore a image on a secondary HD. put it in a drawer until he needed it. I think I have all the bases covered , but who really knows. Computers are enough to cause a person to drink.
PS I have restored a image to a cold HD with Macrium Reflect and it worked perfectly. Here's a little trick I learned to get around a recovery CD. Use you rescue CD to put Windows back to out of the box; then use your back up image to restore the back up image you made before your HD died. That worked for me. I replaced my HD; went back to out of the box and then used a back up image I created on a external drive to put me back to the day I created that image.
What do you think Geek_9pm?? Will that work?? Quote

That worked for me. I replaced my HD; went back to out of the box and then used a back up image I created on a external drive to put me back to the day I created that image.
What do you think Geek_9pm?? Will that work??

Yeah, I have don that. But I would not recommend it. Quote

Yeah, I have don that. But I would not recommend it.

I agree that that best way is a W PE or Bart PE or a CD from the back up program. Maybe I misunderstood the OP.

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Is it possible to transfer images to other drives does anyone know, or are we stuck with having to use the same dive? This is OK until the drive needs replacing!

Hmmmm, Thanx here guys for this feed back. Just found out that I will be needing a new C: very shortly so I will be following what you say here. You are right about the drinking... gona start (lol) Here's something I put together a while back. See if anything here is helpful:

Disk Imaging software TAKES a "snapshot" of your drive as it exists at the time you create the image. You can then restore the entire image or any file(s) or folder(s) you choose. It is a virtually foolproof way of backing up your system and providing a safe haven in the event of a catastrophe that requires you to blow away your system partition and restore it to a previous state. It also allows you to "test" various software and be confident that you have a the ability to return to the prior state any time you choose.

I use Acronis True Image. It is the best of breed, but it isn't free. The best free alternative is Macrium Reflect.

1) I create an image of my system partition once a week to a second hard drive and keep the 2 or 3 most recent images. I also image my other partitions about once a month. I always ENABLE "verify image" in the options. It takes a little longer, but insures a valid image.

2) I also create an image before performing any drive level function (ie, changing the size of a partition) or making any significant change to the OS (installing a service pack, upgrading IE, etc). Also sometimes before installing new software.

3) Images may be created on any medium (cd, dvd, external drive, etc). For obvious reasons they should not be stored on the same drive you are imaging. The best option is a second internal hd if you have one.

4) Images may be created "in the background" within the OS. If you need to restore the system partition, that will need to be done before the OS loads. You can start the process within the application in the OS and it will then tell you it needs to reboot to finish the process. Alternatively, you can boot to a "recovery disk" which you can create when you first INSTALL the software (or to the application disk itself if you have one). Other partitions can be restored without a reboot.
Hi! Very nice reply Allan. Well explained. I have been using Macrium Relect for a long time. It has never let me down. I would just like to add that Macrium has a feature that allows you to mount your image. If will assign a drive letter to the image and allow you to copy and paste from it. It is a read only, so you can't change any thing, but great for grabbing a file ect, then copy and paste it back on your C drive. It is free, but the pro version has more bells and whistles. Also would like to add. Make a recovery CD right away and make sure you can boot with it. I really like the back up feature in W7. I use both. I also use Paragon. W7 back up and Paragon don't require you to use a recovery disk unless you can't boot your PC (Example your hard drive dies) I don't like starting over from out of the box. I fresh install can be good some times , but it's a lot of work.
Thanks!!

Find links here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_backup_softwareWow! Now that's quite a list!! No reason not to find one and use it regularly Guys I am knocked out by your responce here, but I still have the problem of having to get a new HD. How can I safely get the system image of my knackerd drive on to the new one? Create a boot or recovery disc with whatever imaging software you are using, boot to it, and restore the imageHi fellas, Listen, I have Acronis and Macrium gizmos, but they are both from computer mags. Acronis says that it is not compatable with my Win 7, so it looks like an XP job. Macrium gives me two choices of format LINUX and PE? If I choose the PE it dosn't work. This leaves me with a Paragon gizmo, again from a mag, but it appears to work. I have just made a bootable CD from it.

How does PARAGON rate with you guys? The recent versions of Acronis True Image are most certainly compatible with W7 Quote

How does PARAGON rate with you guys?

Paragon is great. I have a friend that is a PC clean freak. He restores his PC once a week with Paragon. He says he likes a fresh PC.
That's just a little over board for me. I have restored my OS with the recovery disk and without the disk. If your going to replace your HD, you will need the recovery disk. The only way I know that you don't need the disk is to restore back to factory and then down load Paragon and restore your image. The recovery disk is the best way to go.
I don't know if this will work. I'm going to try to attach a Zip file.

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