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Answer» I have an hp pavilion g7-1219wm. It was a good computer. Key word: was. I have been having all kinds of problems lately, too numerous to describe. Plus, I do not know much about computers. I have decided to return this computer for a full refund and just get a new one. I have about a week to do this before I can no longer return it. What I would like to do is totally FORMAT/erase/wipe my hard drives and memory before I turn it in. I googled it and a few sites came up that offer this service for free. What I would like to know from you professionals is what is the best free program to use to do this? Currently, I have CC Cleaner on my computer and have used that to supposedly clean up the problem I was having, but it didn't work. A few weeks ago, I was getting a blue screen. Now today when I went to restore my computer to an earlier time, I got the error: 0x80070005. I think something is really wrong with my computer. It's not just those errors, but I think my secondary email account (not the one I use for this site) may have been compromised. I just want to totally erase everything from here and return it. Please help. Thank you. Please keep in mind that I am a total beginner and require step by step instructions. Peace.Boot to your Windows disc and format.I hate to contradict Allan, but typically an O/S installation disk will not securely erase the contents of a hard drive. Personally, I would run DBAN first: http://www.dban.org/Rob, no problem - but the word "securely" does not appear in the original post. The QUESTION was how to format / erase the drive. And of course as you know, there is NOTHING short of a hammer that will insure the data cannot be recovered. And of course as you know, there is NOTHING short of a hammer that will insure the data cannot be recovered. NAH, I've yet to hear any convincing evidence that a randomised magnetic platter has any sort of recoverable "memory" of old data. There was a report doing the rounds a while ago that some sort of electron microscopy could retrieve it, but that was subsequently debunked. Recoverable memory of old data? All data is still there, it's simply overwritten by newer data. Theres LOTS of software that can dig down and retrieve old data. And law enforcement agencies (especially federal) have software sophisticated enough to retrieve data at virtually any level. Whether or not you've heard of it, it exists. Quote from: Allan on January 04, 2012, 10:36:36 AM Recoverable memory of old data? All data is still there, it's simply overwritten by newer data. Theres LOTS of software that can dig down and retrieve old data. And law enforcement agencies (especially federal) have software sophisticated enough to retrieve data at virtually any level. Whether or not you've heard of it, it exists. Nah, you can prevent people recovering it, funnily enough using the very method mentioned here: Quote from: Rob Pomeroy on January 04, 2012, 10:29:27 AM Nah, I've yet to hear any convincing evidence that a randomised magnetic platter has any sort of recoverable "memory" of old data. There was a report doing the rounds a while ago that some sort of electron microscopy could retrieve it, but that was subsequently debunked.Whatever you say.A DOD wipe (Department of Defense) is 7 passes of a format and zero writes to the entire HDD... I would think they wouldn't take such measures without having just cause to protect sensitive data.... I'm quite sure they know alot more about computer forensics than the average User... Quote from: patio on January 04, 2012, 11:11:53 AM A DOD wipe (Department of Defense) is 7 passes of a format and zero writes to the entire HDD... The DoD method is based on an out-dated and essentially debunked paper that was based around older recording methods, particularly those used in floppies. Modern Hard Drives work completely differently. Here is a quote from a (sorry for the length, this forum needs "spoiler" tags or something equivalent) paper on the subject. Quote The basis of this belief is a presupposition is that when a one (1) is written to disk the actual effect is closer to obtaining a 0.95 when a zero (0) is overwritten with one(1), and a 1.05 when one (1) is overwritten with one (1). Ths is false and in fact, there is a distribution based on the density plots that supports the contention that the differential in write patterns is too great to allow for the recovery of overwritten data. The argument arises from the statement that "each track contains an image of everything ever written to it, but that the contribution from each "layer" gets progressively smaller the further back it was made". This is a misunderstanding of the physics of drive functions and magneto-resonance. There is in fact no time component and the image is not layered. It is rather a density plot.This is of prime importance to forensic analysts and security personel. The time needed to run a single wipe of a hard drive is economically expensive. The requirements to have up to 35 wipes [12] of a hard drive before disposal become all the more costly when considering large organisations with tens of thousands of hosts. With a single wipe process taking up to a day to run per host through software and around an hour with dedicated EQUIPMENT, the use of multiple wipes has created a situation where many organisations ignore the issue all together – resulting in data leaks and loss. Basically, a single pass is enough. Though I firmly hold that if you need to securely delete anything you're either paranoid or a criminal, or an LY (Linux Youth). Possibly both. Why? Well, for one thing- the person who cares the most about your data is you. Not some random person out there in the wild. Nobody grabs used hard drives and goes "I think I'll use a recovery tool to try to reconstruct the data that used to be on this drive for my EVIL SCHEMES.". the second case speaks for itself, if your computer has illegal material on it, you're going to be paranoid that some random person rebuilding your data will find that illegal content and report you! The answer to this is to, well, not put the illegal content there to begin with. (pirated software btw is a common thing I see people cite "well I copied XYZ and I don't want to be reported". That's stupid. Nobody would waste their time to rebuild a disk structure just to find if the person before them used pirated software, and it's not really that easy to tell if they did anyway. That, and it's not strictly illegal depending on the actual action taken. The third one comprises those bushy-tailed youngsters who, as leet haxxors, want to protect their stupid xchat scripts from being stolen, because MicroShaft is out to steal their ideas. So they of course will use a fully encrypted disk to store their data, under the false impression that they couldn't just have the password beaten out of them if they wanted it. But nobody does, they just delude themselves. And usually, at least in my experience, encrypting your stuff just makes it harder for you to access. In the Original Poster's case, I don't think it's important to wipe the drive at all, especially since it's purpose is to keep unscrupulous people from private data, since unscrupulous people Already have that data. (and nobody would bother to rebuild a disk structure to find that data anyway). Quote from: BC_Programmer on January 04, 2012, 12:06:29 PM Though I firmly hold that if you need to securely delete anything you're either paranoid or a criminal, or an LY (Linux Youth). Possibly both. Or a company trying to make sure info is removed securely to stop criminals stealing sensitive employee information. Or actually quite a few very genuine and legal reasons to be worried.Ask any law enforcement technologist if you're right. You're not.No matter the length...nor the technical jargon used in the lengthy quote i know it can be done...and has been done for all of computing time... To think otherwise is foolish. |
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