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Answer» When selecting files or folders to delete, using Windows Explorer, I think Imust be clicking too QUICK because the next thing I Know, the prgram is copying these same files or folders, which is the last thing I want. I've had this problem for years, I think, but, now, I would like to know if there is any way of stopping this - other than just slowing the clicking down! TIA John My apologies to all (on my very first posting to this forum!) - I didn't notice the ridicualous subject I had, inadvertently, typed - I was too busy making certain that my wording and spelling was correct in the body of the message! John Quote I think Imust be clicking too quick because the next thing I Know, the prgram is copying these same files or folders, which is the last thing I want. What program? Are you using hold ctrl + left click on mouse or can you describe more clearly next time? Sorry, I should have giving more information. It happens when using Windows Explorer and I'm selecting files or folders prior to deleting them, copying them, or just checking their total size before , perhaps, zipping them up together. I've just checked and it happens when holding down the "Ctrl" key and selecting individual files or folders or holding down the "Shift" key and selecting a mixed group. I click merrily away and then, suddenly, up comes a dialogue box to tell me that it's copying all those that I have selected so far, which is a right pain. I, then, end up with having to delete all the copies before I do whatever I wanted with the originals. It doesn't seem to happen if and when I take more time between clicking the mouse to select the items. I hope the subject line makes more sense! Quote deleting them, copying them, or just checking their total size These are and should be seperate operations... It's still unclear as to what you want ot do...other than slow down the mouse as you cannot do all of these tasks at once...Really and truly it sounds to me like your (right click option) task pop up on there own and with your fast clicking it click on the closest option to your pointer which may be copy. I would say check you options and make sure that those options dont automatically pop up after a few seconds which inadvertently has you clicking them. Or with your super fast clicking you are hitting the right button your self bringing those options up. Either way Id say you need to slow down, that much clicking isnt good your wearing out your mouse faster and your comp probly hates you lol.You are dragging the selected items. dragging a selection of files any distance and dropping them into the same folder will copy them. basically you are holding the button down too long and moving the mouse while you are clicking, so it get's interpreted as a drag operation into the same folder. Quote from: DARK9 on March 18, 2012, 08:40:19 AM Really and truly it sounds to me like your (right click option) task pop up on there own and with your fast clicking it click on the closest option to your pointer which may be copy. The menu that appears when right clicking is positioned according to the pointer location. the Cut/Copy/Paste items are around the center of the menu, so they will never be the closest option. Also, they would have clearly seen the menu appear, even briefly. Also, the fact that copying in and of itself doesn't do anything to the files except add them to the clipboard to be pasted, and their problem is the files start being copied leaves my explanation (inadvertent drag) as the only plausible one. Quote from: BC_Programmer on March 18, 2012, 01:37:15 PM You are dragging the selected items. dragging a selection of files any distance and dropping them into the same folder will copy them. basically you are holding the button down too long and moving the mouse while you are clicking, so it get's interpreted as a drag operation into the same folder. That, BC_Programmer, is exactly what I am doing and I know I'm doing it - when selecting individual files to delete, you have to hold down the "Ctrl" key, and move the mouse pointer from one to another file --- but I'm holding the mouse button down that bit too long as I move the pointer from one to the next and it's being interpreted as a "copy" signal. Similarly, when selecting a block of files to delete, you have to hold down the "Shift" key and then I drag the mouse pointer down the list instead of just selecting the first and last files. I don't right-click during this process - just hold down the "Ctrl" or the "Shift" key and move the mouse down the lis and, I, sure, dragging the pointer down. It's not a major problem but is an irritation. I could slow down and carry out the operation slowly and correctly but I prefer to turn off (if possible) this copy action, as I never use it to copy files. Thanks to all for your replies. Shift + down arrow will do the sma thing to create the block of files... Then as BC suggested try using the right clik menu for the remainder of the operation.So.. err.. if I understand correctly, your issue is that it doesn't work as designed when you don't use it as it was designed to be used? No BC_Programmer, you, quite obviously, do NOT understand correctly - in fact you do not undersatnd at all. It works as it it is supposed to but I want to know if it is possible to turn it off - it, really, is that simple. It's, obviously, an inherent shortcut method of copying files and folders but I don't need it, nor do I want it. I was hoping for help and not sarcasm - please do not treat me as a child - I have treated you with respect and I, and the others on the forum, EXPECT the same in return. You may have thought that your remark was smart but, I assure you, it wasn't. It's a pity because I had just joined the forum but I can see that this is not the forum for me. I do thank, however, all those who really tried to help me. Do NOT bother, BC_Programmer, to reply as I will not be back. I'm afraid BC_Programmer is right and your PENCHANT for not wanting to understand his indirect advice speaks for itself. I would not put my hand in a fire then wonder why i keep getting burned. You are NOT using the left and right click option as they were designed. You need to re-think the way you handle the mouse. It a shame people come to forums only to expect a certain answer and when that answer doesn't come, they get grumpy. Do you think any other forum would have given a different answer, because the fact remains that you are still using the mouse incorrectly. You cant configure the mouse in Windows, you might be able to if you changed some registry setting, but i would not advise it......... Quote from: John Veness on March 23, 2012, 09:03:57 AM No BC_Programmer, you, quite obviously, do NOT understand correctly - in fact you do not undersatnd at all. It works as it it is supposed to but I want to know if it is possible to turn it off - it, really, is that simple. It's a shame you aren't coming back then, because I know exactly how to turn it off.(at least for XP, doesn't seem to work for vista/7) And I wasn't being sarcastic. However for your benefit I will probably load this particular post with it. I was pointing out that the way you were using the system was in a way that it simply wasn't designed for, not even, in large part, with options. I don't even know if disabling drag and drop would solve your "problem" anyway, since the problem is essentially that "you are doing it wrong" and you want that wrong way to be interpreted by the system in some specific way, or, rather, you want to be able to do it a wrong way and allow those wrong way actions to not be interpreted as they are designed (you want to be able to hold the button while moving the mouse on an item, and not start a drag operation). Of course there are options to disable some portions entirely, but I suspect that may be more ANNOYING for other operations you might perform. Anyway, in case somebody else has this issue, you can disable Drag And Drop Entirely in Windows Explorer. NATURALLY a side effect is that it disables all drag and drop, not just "accidental" dragging and dropping that is actually on purpose because you are using the mouse in an atypical fashion. Also, I'm not 100% on what windows systems this will work on, but as far as I can see you didn't state your OS(I may have missed that, didn't re-read the thread), and, again, since you don't plan to return I don't see the point in customizing the advice to your scenario anymore. Perhaps it will help somebody else, though. Doesn't seem to work on Vista/7 to change anything, but I think it would work on XP and 2000. 1. Run mmc. Either start-Run, or Windows key+R and enter "mmc". I believe you can use start-Search on vista/7 to open it as well. 2. on the file menu of the Management console, choose "Add/Remove snap-ins". 3. Find "Group Policy" or Local Group Policy" or something to that effect. It seems to differ on different systems. Click Add, and then click finish. Click Close and click OK on the dialogs to return to the main mmc program. 4.Choose "Local Security Policy" in the tree on the left hand side. Expand the tree to follow this "path": User Configuration->Windows Settings->Internet Explorer Maintenance then click the "security" object. 5. on the right pane, double-click security zones and content ratings. 6. under security zones, select the "Import the current security zones" settings checkbox, and then click the modify settings button. 7. in the "Select a web content zone to specify it's security settings" section, click My Computer, and then click Custom Level in the Security Level for this zome section. 8.In the security settings section, scroll to the Downloads section and change the option from Disabled to Enabled under File download. 11. Under the miscellaneous section, under the Drag and drop or copy and paste files option, disable the option. Close MMC. Another method could be to increase the drag window, if you are "holding the button a bit too long" instead of simply not holding the button down too long (the horrors) one could increase the drag window so that a drag operation doesn't start until the mouse is moved a bit farther. Hopefully by that time you've released the button. I will leave looking up how to change it as an exercise, because I just spent the last hour fighting with a poor signal Wifi just to find the aforementioned information to disable drag and drop. I believe tweakUI allows you to change it on XP, though I don't think that works on Vista/7. And I don't know the registry options off-hand and I doubt knowing the parameters to call SetSystemParametersInfo() with would help your average user.

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When selecting files or folders to delete, using Windows Explorer, I think Imust be clicking too QUICK because the next thing I Know, the prgram is copying these same files or folders, which is the last thing I want.

I've had this problem for years, I think, but, now, I would like to know if there is any way of stopping this - other than just slowing the clicking down!

TIA

John My apologies to all (on my very first posting to this forum!) - I didn't notice the ridicualous subject I had, inadvertently, typed - I was too busy making certain that my wording and spelling was correct in the body of the message!

John Quote

I think Imust be clicking too quick because the next thing I Know, the prgram is copying these same files or folders, which is the last thing I want.

What program? Are you using hold ctrl + left click on mouse or can you describe more clearly next time? Sorry, I should have giving more information.

It happens when using Windows Explorer and I'm selecting files or folders prior to deleting them, copying them, or just checking their total size before , perhaps, zipping them up together.

I've just checked and it happens when holding down the "Ctrl" key and selecting individual files or folders or holding down the "Shift" key and selecting a mixed group.

I click merrily away and then, suddenly, up comes a dialogue box to tell me that it's copying all those that I have selected so far, which is a right pain.

I, then, end up with having to delete all the copies before I do whatever I wanted with the originals.

It doesn't seem to happen if and when I take more time between clicking the mouse to select the items.

I hope the subject line makes more sense!

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deleting them, copying them, or just checking their total size

These are and should be seperate operations...
It's still unclear as to what you want ot do...other than slow down the mouse as you cannot do all of these tasks at once...Really and truly it sounds to me like your (right click option) task pop up on there own and with your fast clicking it click on the closest option to your pointer which may be copy.

I would say check you options and make sure that those options dont automatically pop up after a few seconds which inadvertently has you clicking them.

Or with your super fast clicking you are hitting the right button your self bringing those options up. Either way Id say you need to slow down, that much clicking isnt good your wearing out your mouse faster and your comp probly hates you lol.You are dragging the selected items. dragging a selection of files any distance and dropping them into the same folder will copy them.

basically you are holding the button down too long and moving the mouse while you are clicking, so it get's interpreted as a drag operation into the same folder.

Quote from: DARK9 on March 18, 2012, 08:40:19 AM

Really and truly it sounds to me like your (right click option) task pop up on there own and with your fast clicking it click on the closest option to your pointer which may be copy.

The menu that appears when right clicking is positioned according to the pointer location. the Cut/Copy/Paste items are around the center of the menu, so they will never be the closest option. Also, they would have clearly seen the menu appear, even briefly. Also, the fact that copying in and of itself doesn't do anything to the files except add them to the clipboard to be pasted, and their problem is the files start being copied leaves my explanation (inadvertent drag) as the only plausible one.

Quote from: BC_Programmer on March 18, 2012, 01:37:15 PM

You are dragging the selected items. dragging a selection of files any distance and dropping them into the same folder will copy them.

basically you are holding the button down too long and moving the mouse while you are clicking, so it get's interpreted as a drag operation into the same folder.

That, BC_Programmer, is exactly what I am doing and I know I'm doing it - when selecting individual files to delete, you have to hold down the "Ctrl" key, and move the mouse pointer from one to another file --- but I'm holding the mouse button down that bit too long as I move the pointer from one to the next and it's being interpreted as a "copy" signal.

Similarly, when selecting a block of files to delete, you have to hold down the "Shift" key and then I drag the mouse pointer down the list instead of just selecting the first and last files.

I don't right-click during this process - just hold down the "Ctrl" or the "Shift" key and move the mouse down the lis and, I, sure, dragging the pointer down. It's not a major problem but is an irritation.

I could slow down and carry out the operation slowly and correctly but I prefer to turn off (if possible) this copy action, as I never use it to copy files.

Thanks to all for your replies.
Shift + down arrow will do the sma thing to create the block of files...
Then as BC suggested try using the right clik menu for the remainder of the operation.So.. err.. if I understand correctly, your issue is that it doesn't work as designed when you don't use it as it was designed to be used?

No BC_Programmer, you, quite obviously, do NOT understand correctly - in fact you do not undersatnd at all.

It works as it it is supposed to but I want to know if it is possible to turn it off - it, really, is that simple.

It's, obviously, an inherent shortcut method of copying files and folders but I don't need it, nor do I want it.

I was hoping for help and not sarcasm - please do not treat me as a child - I have treated you with respect and I, and the others on the forum, EXPECT the same in return. You may have thought that your remark was smart but, I assure you, it wasn't.

It's a pity because I had just joined the forum but I can see that this is not the forum for me. I do thank, however, all those who really tried to help me.

Do NOT bother, BC_Programmer, to reply as I will not be back.

I'm afraid BC_Programmer is right and your PENCHANT for not wanting to understand his indirect advice speaks for itself. I would not put my hand in a fire then wonder why i keep getting burned.

You are NOT using the left and right click option as they were designed. You need to re-think the way you handle the mouse.

It a shame people come to forums only to expect a certain answer and when that answer doesn't come, they get grumpy. Do you think any other forum would have given a different answer, because the fact remains that you are still using the mouse incorrectly.

You cant configure the mouse in Windows, you might be able to if you changed some registry setting, but i would not advise it......... Quote from: John Veness on March 23, 2012, 09:03:57 AM

No BC_Programmer, you, quite obviously, do NOT understand correctly - in fact you do not undersatnd at all.

It works as it it is supposed to but I want to know if it is possible to turn it off - it, really, is that simple.

It's a shame you aren't coming back then, because I know exactly how to turn it off.(at least for XP, doesn't seem to work for vista/7) And I wasn't being sarcastic. However for your benefit I will probably load this particular post with it. I was pointing out that the way you were using the system was in a way that it simply wasn't designed for, not even, in large part, with options. I don't even know if disabling drag and drop would solve your "problem" anyway, since the problem is essentially that "you are doing it wrong" and you want that wrong way to be interpreted by the system in some specific way, or, rather, you want to be able to do it a wrong way and allow those wrong way actions to not be interpreted as they are designed (you want to be able to hold the button while moving the mouse on an item, and not start a drag operation). Of course there are options to disable some portions entirely, but I suspect that may be more ANNOYING for other operations you might perform.

Anyway, in case somebody else has this issue, you can disable Drag And Drop Entirely in Windows Explorer. NATURALLY a side effect is that it disables all drag and drop, not just "accidental" dragging and dropping that is actually on purpose because you are using the mouse in an atypical fashion.

Also, I'm not 100% on what windows systems this will work on, but as far as I can see you didn't state your OS(I may have missed that, didn't re-read the thread), and, again, since you don't plan to return I don't see the point in customizing the advice to your scenario anymore. Perhaps it will help somebody else, though. Doesn't seem to work on Vista/7 to change anything, but I think it would work on XP and 2000.

1. Run mmc. Either start-Run, or Windows key+R and enter "mmc". I believe you can use start-Search on vista/7 to open it as well.
2. on the file menu of the Management console, choose "Add/Remove snap-ins".
3. Find "Group Policy" or Local Group Policy" or something to that effect. It seems to differ on different systems. Click Add, and then click finish. Click Close and click OK on the dialogs to return to the main mmc program.
4.Choose "Local Security Policy" in the tree on the left hand side. Expand the tree to follow this "path":
User Configuration->Windows Settings->Internet Explorer Maintenance
then click the "security" object.
5. on the right pane, double-click security zones and content ratings.
6. under security zones, select the "Import the current security zones" settings checkbox, and then click the modify settings button.
7. in the "Select a web content zone to specify it's security settings" section, click My Computer, and then click Custom Level in the Security Level for this zome section.
8.In the security settings section, scroll to the Downloads section and change the option from Disabled to Enabled under File download.
11. Under the miscellaneous section, under the Drag and drop or copy and paste files option, disable the option.

Close MMC.

Another method could be to increase the drag window, if you are "holding the button a bit too long" instead of simply not holding the button down too long (the horrors) one could increase the drag window so that a drag operation doesn't start until the mouse is moved a bit farther. Hopefully by that time you've released the button.

I will leave looking up how to change it as an exercise, because I just spent the last hour fighting with a poor signal Wifi just to find the aforementioned information to disable drag and drop. I believe tweakUI allows you to change it on XP, though I don't think that works on Vista/7. And I don't know the registry options off-hand and I doubt knowing the parameters to call SetSystemParametersInfo() with would help your average user.

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