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Answer» Well, I may have a problem like this one, but I never posted it 'cause I only play that game when I'm really bored. NFSMW 2012 won't launch on XP, still on compatibility mode. What to do?? BTW it's the original one. Thanks for all the explination you gave me in the second last comment. But I know that people are thinking or didn't saw the thread. I don't consider them rude because they're not answering fast. I consider them rude because they really are. They act like a kid that PLAYED GTA San Andreas and now want to become just like CJ. Of course, they don't swear, but they use their power of Admins or Moderators to make you to be affraid of them. The only thing that they don't know is that not all the people are idiots and are affraid of Admins. If the Admin is rude it means that's not the best site for you, if you pay with the same price. If the Admin doesn't talk to much on the site it means that -he doesn't have the time to take care of the site=>the site is going to die soonly Or -he is a good guy Under this site is a lot of spent time. This site has a good admin.One last thing. Did you try safe mode? Mable you did. How about this, Create a brand new user. Log off and come in as the new use. Wait a bit for Windows XP settle down. Then try to install the program that does not work right. It just might work. I don't know why. Nfs Mw 2012 is from EA, which say that it is not "compatible" with XP. I have Windows 7, but I want to do an experiment so I'm documenting myself and getting ready for everything that can happen. I tried to run the game in compayibility mode with XP and it said This program doesn't support Windows XP. How to trick it to run? BTW, the experiment is about installing Windows XP x64 getting SP2 official and doing the registry value changing to SP3. Then, here comes the fun part, I might not find drivers that last for a long time on XP, so I must install 7 or 8's drivers. It will take time because I have to install my antivirus and muuuuuuuch more, but it will be worth it, I hope.Why the need to run it under XP should be the question here...The experiment is about XP. I want to see how good can it perform on new, recent and ultra-new games.Quote NFSMW 2012 won't launch on XP, still on compatibility mode. What to do?? BTW it's the original one. I'd call Need For Speed:Most Wanted released in 2003 the "original one" The new Most Wanted game requires DirectX10.Yje game requires DirectX 10...not sure why your blaming Windows.Quote from: antoniu200 on October 28, 2015, 03:37:11 PM Nfs Mw 2012 is from EA, which say that it is not "compatible" with XP. Yes, this is because it requires DirectX 10. None of the DX10 for Windows XP wrappers (which all convert calls to DX10 to DX9 and do not use any DX10 hardware features) are implemented well enough to run it. Quote I have Windows 7, but I want to do an experiment so I'm documenting myself and getting ready for everything that can happen. I tried to run the game in compayibility mode with XP and it said This program doesn't support Windows XP. How to trick it to run? Don't use compatibility modes. If you are trying to get it running on XP, you should be using XP. the compatibility mode options don't change the Operating System, they simply reintroduce undocumented behaviours that some applications made use of. Quote BTW, the experiment is about installing Windows XP x64 getting SP2 official and doing the registry value changing to SP3. Windows XP x64 is effectively based off of Windows Server 2003 x64; it is not really considered "Windows XP" by most software. Changing the registry to make the system report that it has SP3 installed doesn't magically give the system all the capabilities, functions, and internal fixes/changes that programs which require XP SP3 will expect. Quote Then, here comes the fun part, I might not find drivers that last for a long time on XP, so I must install 7 or 8's drivers. It will take time because I have to install my antivirus and muuuuuuuch more, but it will be worth it, I hope. Windows XP x64 uses Windows Server 2003. You cannot "trick" Windows 7/8 drivers to install on Windows 2003 or Windows XP because Windows Vista/7/8 introduce a completely new driver model. Windows Vista and forward basically sets out a new "contract" that defines how the drivers are written, what they can do, how Windows communicates with them, and how those Drivers can interact with Windows. Windows XP and earlier have a DIFFERENT "contract" for driver development, so while Windows Vista/7/8 can install and use Windows XP drivers if necessary because the OS knows about the older "contracts" Windows XP cannot use later drivers SINCE it never "signed the contract" so to speak. it would be necessary to make significant modifications to the OS- requiring advanced driver-development experience- before XP could run and interact with those drivers at all.I'd say it deserves a shot. Somebody said that the XP drivers didn't work but the 8 drivers were fine. And we shouldn't get off the subject which is how to force NFSMW 2012 launch on XP. I don't care the quality, I just want it to launch. And you forgot the year when the original MW was sold !! It was 11th November 2005 not 2003. And I got bored of that one. I played it for 5 years daily. I can't play it anymore. The first boring feeling when played that game was in 2013 in SEPTEMBER on my Windows XP 256 MB RAM machine. Good days then... I miss that computer.The issues you have are with the game authors...not Windows. However we can continue this conversation because your asking a piece of written software isn;t doing what you want it to do...carry on...Quote from: antoniu200 on October 29, 2015, 03:00:04 PM Somebody said that the XP drivers didn't work but the 8 drivers were fine. the XP Drivers for what? I don't even know what you are referring to. Windows Vista and later drivers cannot be loaded in Windows XP. I don't think I can explain that much more clearly. Quote And we shouldn't get off the subject which is how to force NFSMW 2012 launch on XP. I don't care the quality, I just want it to launch. You can't. I've explained this already. It requires DirectX 10 which you cannot get on Windows XP- the crappy, garbage wrapper programs that change dxdiag to say you have version 10 don't allow you to use DirectX 10 programs/games. Quote And you forgot the year when the original MW was sold !! It was 11th November 2005 not 2003. My point was "the first one" didn't make any sense. If you didn't saw, I marked this thread solved yesterday. I'll see how's the experiment. Till it's over, peace.Oh, and I know it's impossible for those drivers to work. Don't tell me

Solve : Programs are compatible with XP but installers don't do their job?

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Well, I may have a problem like this one, but I never posted it 'cause I only play that game when I'm really bored. NFSMW 2012 won't launch on XP, still on compatibility mode. What to do?? BTW it's the original one.
Thanks for all the explination you gave me in the second last comment. But I know that people are thinking or didn't saw the thread. I don't consider them rude because they're not answering fast. I consider them rude because they really are. They act like a kid that PLAYED GTA San Andreas and now want to become just like CJ. Of course, they don't swear, but they use their power of Admins or Moderators to make you to be affraid of them. The only thing that they don't know is that not all the people are idiots and are affraid of Admins. If the Admin is rude it means that's not the best site for you, if you pay with the same price. If the Admin doesn't talk to much on the site it means that
-he doesn't have the time to take care of the site=>the site is going to die soonly
Or
-he is a good guy
Under this site is a lot of spent time. This site has a good admin.One last thing.
Did you try safe mode? Mable you did.
How about this, Create a brand new user. Log off and come in as the new use. Wait a bit for Windows XP settle down. Then try to install the program that does not work right.
It just might work. I don't know why.

Nfs Mw 2012 is from EA, which say that it is not "compatible" with XP. I have Windows 7, but I want to do an experiment so I'm documenting myself and getting ready for everything that can happen. I tried to run the game in compayibility mode with XP and it said This program doesn't support Windows XP. How to trick it to run?
BTW, the experiment is about installing Windows XP x64 getting SP2 official and doing the registry value changing to SP3. Then, here comes the fun part, I might not find drivers that last for a long time on XP, so I must install 7 or 8's drivers. It will take time because I have to install my antivirus and muuuuuuuch more, but it will be worth it, I hope.Why the need to run it under XP should be the question here...The experiment is about XP. I want to see how good can it perform on new, recent and ultra-new games.Quote

NFSMW 2012 won't launch on XP, still on compatibility mode. What to do?? BTW it's the original one.

I'd call Need For Speed:Most Wanted released in 2003 the "original one"

The new Most Wanted game requires DirectX10.Yje game requires DirectX 10...not sure why your blaming Windows.Quote from: antoniu200 on October 28, 2015, 03:37:11 PM

Nfs Mw 2012 is from EA, which say that it is not "compatible" with XP.

Yes, this is because it requires DirectX 10. None of the DX10 for Windows XP wrappers (which all convert calls to DX10 to DX9 and do not use any DX10 hardware features) are implemented well enough to run it.

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I have Windows 7, but I want to do an experiment so I'm documenting myself and getting ready for everything that can happen. I tried to run the game in compayibility mode with XP and it said This program doesn't support Windows XP. How to trick it to run?

Don't use compatibility modes. If you are trying to get it running on XP, you should be using XP. the compatibility mode options don't change the Operating System, they simply reintroduce undocumented behaviours that some applications made use of.

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BTW, the experiment is about installing Windows XP x64 getting SP2 official and doing the registry value changing to SP3.

Windows XP x64 is effectively based off of Windows Server 2003 x64; it is not really considered "Windows XP" by most software. Changing the registry to make the system report that it has SP3 installed doesn't magically give the system all the capabilities, functions, and internal fixes/changes that programs which require XP SP3 will expect.
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Then, here comes the fun part, I might not find drivers that last for a long time on XP, so I must install 7 or 8's drivers. It will take time because I have to install my antivirus and muuuuuuuch more, but it will be worth it, I hope.

Windows XP x64 uses Windows Server 2003. You cannot "trick" Windows 7/8 drivers to install on Windows 2003 or Windows XP because Windows Vista/7/8 introduce a completely new driver model. Windows Vista and forward basically sets out a new "contract" that defines how the drivers are written, what they can do, how Windows communicates with them, and how those Drivers can interact with Windows. Windows XP and earlier have a DIFFERENT "contract" for driver development, so while Windows Vista/7/8 can install and use Windows XP drivers if necessary because the OS knows about the older "contracts" Windows XP cannot use later drivers SINCE it never "signed the contract" so to speak. it would be necessary to make significant modifications to the OS- requiring advanced driver-development experience- before XP could run and interact with those drivers at all.I'd say it deserves a shot. Somebody said that the XP drivers didn't work but the 8 drivers were fine. And we shouldn't get off the subject which is how to force NFSMW 2012 launch on XP. I don't care the quality, I just want it to launch.
And you forgot the year when the original MW was sold !! It was 11th November 2005 not 2003. And I got bored of that one. I played it for 5 years daily. I can't play it anymore. The first boring feeling when played that game was in 2013 in SEPTEMBER on my Windows XP 256 MB RAM machine. Good days then... I miss that computer.The issues you have are with the game authors...not Windows.
However we can continue this conversation because your asking a piece of written software isn;t doing what you want it to do...carry on...Quote from: antoniu200 on October 29, 2015, 03:00:04 PM

Somebody said that the XP drivers didn't work but the 8 drivers were fine.

the XP Drivers for what? I don't even know what you are referring to.

Windows Vista and later drivers cannot be loaded in Windows XP. I don't think I can explain that much more clearly.

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And we shouldn't get off the subject which is how to force NFSMW 2012 launch on XP. I don't care the quality, I just want it to launch.

You can't. I've explained this already. It requires DirectX 10 which you cannot get on Windows XP- the crappy, garbage wrapper programs that change dxdiag to say you have version 10 don't allow you to use DirectX 10 programs/games.
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And you forgot the year when the original MW was sold !! It was 11th November 2005 not 2003.

My point was "the first one" didn't make any sense.
If you didn't saw, I marked this thread solved yesterday. I'll see how's the experiment. Till it's over, peace.Oh, and I know it's impossible for those drivers to work. Don't tell me

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