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Please help me!

I write my memoirs in notepad and use a USB to store them regularly.. however, I've come unstuck badly. 

I went in to add some memories today and found that a major part has completely disappeared and in its place is the following..

PRIVATE 'TYPE=PICT; ALT=print this article' HYPERLINK

What follows is miles of squiggly lines .. the text has completely disappeared.

I don't have a printer so wouldn't have instigated anything regarding printing.  I'm quite desperate as I've added so much to it during the last three weeks and like a fool I didn't back up as I should have.

Is it gone forever?  Can it possibly be retrieved?

Someone please help a stupid old woman!

Lori


Question, are you sure it was Notepad? Windows Notepad?

What OS?Yes Carbon, absolutely certain.

It's Windows XP Home Edition.  Never had any problem with notepad until this fiasco.

Something else that has altered is that now when I click on the shortcut to my memoir,  it takes some time to download and shows the seconds at the bottom of page.  That's new.

Here in rural Melbourne we will have no electricity from 8am to 8pm tomorrow but the moment it comes back on I'll be checking to see if you or your colleagues can come up with any suggestions.

A friend who is computer savvy is coming the day after to do anything you guys suggest to attempt a retreival.  She suggested that maybe I've somehow encrypted the major part of the text but not sure if anything can be done.

I also think that the remaining text above the endless lines of //////////////// which begin with

PRIVATE "TYPE==PICT; ALT=print this article' HYPERLINK

is being gradually altered to //////// each time I go in to look at it!

Any help or suggestions would be gratefully received.  I'm so shaken up, I hope I've described the problem adequately.First- since your file is changing everytime you open it- make a copy.

I'm not going to question why you use notepad- and it's a bit late- bit there are many good text editors which will make backups of your work for you- notepad has no such feature, I'm afraid.


Is the file Stored on the desktop, or is it just a shortcut? If it's a shortcut- you might want to investigate the contents of the folder where it resides.


additionally- run a chkdsk /f on the drive as well. You can do this via start->Run (search in Vista) type, "cmd" (no quotes) and "chkdsk /f" (again, no quotes).

If it asks to invalidate file handles, say yes- chances are it will then complain and ask if you want it to be checked at the next boot. If so, say yes, then reboot your machine.

In either case, it will scan the drive. If your lucky, if your text was lost via a disk error, chkdsk will find these "lost chains" and they will be stored as "CHK" files in the root of the same drive. (root being, of course, C:\, for example).

if so, it should be a simple (relative to, of course, typing it again) task to open each file in notepad and copy and paste each file into your main file.

As for the encryption possibility- I don't think so. usually when you get garble in a file it's from disk errors. (I, myself, lost a few years worth of work because of a USB drive failing at the most inopportune time)


if the chkdsk, however, doesn't find any lost chains, you might be able to retrieve some data using a Data recovery tool. I personally use a program called "recuva", which you can find here:

http://www.filehippo.com/download_recuva/




Anyway... I'll explain why I mainly suspect disk corruption; it mostly stems from the seemingly random:

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PRIVATE "TYPE==PICT; ALT=print this article' HYPERLINK

I don't know what it means- you don't know what it means- but it surely must have been part of another file on your disk. What I believe might have happened was the Master File Table (MFT) that windows keeps on your drive must have gotten confused as to the location and size of your important document; perhaps notepad crashed or the computer crashed or another program accessed the file for indexing and encountered problems, etc.

Anyway- the way most file systems keep track of information is in "sectors" and "clusters" basically, each one holds a specified amount of data- say, 32KB. the MFT only stores the first cluster of a file, though- and that cluster then points to the next cluster, that one points to the next one, and so on and so forth, until it reaches the end of the file. What appears to have happened here is the "pointer" portion of one of the clusters was corrupted, and so now points to a cluster that BELONGS to a completely separate file. The computer, as far as it knows, just keeps reading the file as before- unfortunately, it is now reading what is a completely different file, so each cluster points to the next one of that file.

So how does the chkdsk program know that it doesn't belong to that file? Well- it doesn't. But- it does detect two inconsistencies- the "innocent" file elsewhere on the disk still points to it's data, but now so does your important document. It finds that these two different files are storing data in the same place, and makes copies- which means your document won't get messed up if that other, "innocent" file is changed.

More importantly, however- it will find the rest of your document (if we're lucky), and think to itself- "well, now that's odd- according to my records, this data doesn't belong to a file!" And so that set of clusters is called a "lost chain"- chkdsk, being a daintly little fellow, copies that data into a new file, with the CHK extension, in the root directory of your disk.


Oh dear- look at me ramble on. I just thought I'd provide a little insight, some people like to know what's going on- how we come up with a diagnosis, for example. I thought I'd explain myself, because this can help you make similar deductions later on (and hopefully with files that are backed up, so it isn't so bad)- I of course am not saying we don't want you here, though!

In any case, I wish you the best of luck in recovering your file. I know what it's like to lose important data, and I can attest it is not exactly warm and fuzzy, and more a dark foreboding that envelops your soul- or something equally dramatic.


And- of course let us know of your progress Just got our electricity back.

I don't know quite how to thank you, whatever the outcome tomorrow, you've given me some hope and avenues for my computer savvy friend to explore tomorrow.

I don't have Vista so I hope that doesn't throw another spanner in the works.  I have the file stored on desktop, at least, thats where I access it from, in fact, its there twice, one is a shortcut.  As you have probably gathered, I am a computer moron.

What you said about the clusters makes perfect sense since more and more of the original text is being eaten up with //////////'s.

I have found approximately half of my memoirs stored elsewhere on my computer.  That is judging by the file size as I'm too frightened to actually open it for fear of further corruption.

Also I'm fearful of using the USB for the same reason.. fear of the text being swallowed up by the same programme or of being corrupted in some way.

Ironically, I purchased 700mb CD-rewritable discs a few days ago, do you suggest I use one of these to put whatever is on my computer entirely on disc before investigations begin tomorrow?

I used notepad because I was unable to find anything else on the comp which I could access.  It enabled me to add bits to episodes in childhood which I only remembered months after the original incidents.  I did enquire of even professionals if there was something more suitable but they all suggestED WORD which didn't come with Windows XP home edition.  I've aquired WORD but was waiting for friend to install it..  Oh dear!  What a series of blunders and inefficiency.

My sincere thanks to you for your guidance and the recuva site.  What you must have felt  when you lost your work must have been horrendous and I applaud you for pulling yourself out of the *censored* pit of lost data.

Suppose my computer friend can retreive some or all the work.. can you suggest where she should store in on the computer more safely than in notepad?  You mention a main file which intrigues me. I have this nightmare scenario of her getting it back only to open it later and find it corrupted again.

I certainly will update you on outcome, its the least I can do for such helping hands.

Lori



Update..

Friend has just left.  All is well!

I sent copies of your advice to her last night and she also wants to thank you for explaining possible causes so efficiently.   

The first thing she discovered was that the memoirs were in word and not in notepad!  I told you I was a moron!  After a while she pinpointed the trouble to my having pasted hyperlinks?, those bits in blue that show up in articles.  This was confusing the computer.  She downloaded it to a hard drive, FIDDLED around for a bit,  then using her laptop she removed all links and as far as I can tell, I have the original text back in its entirety.

She has copies of the corrected original safely stored and will burn them to rewritable disc for me periodically as my computer isn't set up to do so.  My head is buzzing with the technical terms she used to explain what made it all go haywire so I hope I've explained it properly.

Needless to say, I'll be using the USB after each writing session in future, I'll also keep spare for weekly back ups.

I'll never be able to thank you enough for your excellent advice and assistance,  having lost work yourself,  I think you'll know how grateful I was for the hope it gave me.  It also gave Kathy ideas and paths to follow that may not have OCCURRED to her without your help.  As a BRILLIANT amateur technician she was impressed with the site and your good, sound advice.

Sincere thanks,

Lori Quote
I told you I was a moron!

Don't be silly. We all have different levels of technical knowledge. Even the most seasoned geek used to have problems changing the clock on a VCR at some point  . We all have different areas of expertise and talents, and some of us like computers and work with them everyday- and others hate the things, but are good at other things. The nice thing is the people that are good with computers can help others to do their work faster, for example, a lawyer can get help with word, an accountant can get help with Excel. Some people become intrigued by the machine itself, and learn more about them- others want to use the machine as a tool to better their work- neither person is, of course, a "moron", they just have different "skill sets".


good to HEAR you got your memoirs back! I cannot imagine how much work you would have lost otherwise, but it surely was more then some silly program code. 

I suspected it wasn't notepad, since notepad is kind of a bland program to use for it... I'm sure the file wasn't really "corrupted" as much as it was messy with hyperlinks and what-not.

Since I went on the notion it was notepad- my diagnosis might have been wrong; although the explanation of exactly how a file can get corrupted is still quite sound, it's likely word was just confused about something.

The irony of me losing a few big programming projects a few years ago was that I didn't have a Proper backup! here I am, telling everybody they should be keeping backups of all their important work... and I ddn't do it myself! (tssk Tssk, is all I can say to myself  )



Also- since your using Microsoft Word, you can get the program to make a backup of your work every so often for you as well, and set it to "autosave" your document. This way even if word crashes you won't lose more then a few minutes of typing- and also it let's you go back if you make a change that you later regret. I'm sure your friend can help you set that up, if your interested- I'd give you instructions here, but I don't know what version your using, and they have different ways of doing it.

Quote from: Lori on January 21, 2009, 09:52:36 PM
I'll never be able to thank you enough for your excellent advice and assistance,  having lost work yourself,  I think you'll know how grateful I was for the hope it gave me.  It also gave Kathy ideas and paths to follow that may not have occurred to her without your help.  As a brilliant amateur technician she was impressed with the site and your good, sound advice.

Sincere thanks,

Lori

Every once in a while, I think to myself, Why do I keep coming to CH? Why do we all come here and help people we don't even know? Your very welcome- and thanks for reminding me


We'll be happy to help you again with any problems, or even just curiousity, in the future


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