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6801.

Solve : Looking for suggestions for a router?

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Hi All,
I am looking into getting another router after many years. I have started to read up on DD-WRT and this sounds very interesting. Has anyone had good luck with this flash? Or maybe even bad luck?

I LIKE the idea of have a deeper control of network traffic and this sounds like a cheap way to go.

Thanks for any remarks
find it on amazon Yes, DD-WRT will give you more control.
Bear in mind  DD-WRT is a OPEN project that is subject to change and the documentation requires cafe full daring. Even so, many, like myself, prefer it.

A number of new router models come with DD-WRT already in the firmware. You can find a list at Amazon, or Newegg or your favorite vendor.
Or Google it. Try Best DD-WRT ROUTERS.
Here is a nice one:
Most Popular & Best DD-WRT Wireless Routers of 2014

Have fun! 
I switched to DD-WRT a few years ago and love it.

There were pros and cons to its use though.

Pros = Getting features of a higher end product such as bandwidth controls so that one user downloading wouldnt bring down a slower broadband connection where bandwidth is limited. I have VoIP Vonage Phone and I am able to allocate a slice of bandwidth for the phone so that the phone doesnt act up or cut out when a download and or streaming is happening. Vonage gets priority of service when  active.

Cons = The routers status LED's can now be misleading. The ports use to be solid green and blink green when active under the DLink original firmware. After DD-WRT the status LED's other than power are strange in that you get a solid green when connected, but instead of a BLINKING green you get a completely out LED when there is traffic. This caused me to chase my tail once when I had an issue and I was expecting the original flicker or blink of the LED when there was traffic vs it going completely out.

I bought a refurb D-Link for $19 through Newegg about 3 years ago and flashed it to DD-WRT and it has been bullet proof as for as its operation. DD-WRT turned a $20 router into the features of a more expensive router.

As far as ease of use... DD-WRT requires some PATIENCE and skills in knowing what you are doing. Its not as easily configurable as a OEM firmware user interface with far less features and generally has a wizard to step you through configuration. But its not very difficult to figure out if you have patience and do some research on google when you find something that your unsure of. Unless a newer flash of DD-WRT contains a wizard, one doesnt exist and so you have to manually go in and configure everything that you want to enable or disable etc.

If buying a wireless router with DD-WRT in mind, I would first check to make sure that the model and version of that model is supported before buying it. Its mostly older model wireless routers or brand new models that firmware has yet to be created for that are problems for DD-WRT. The older routers it usually comes down to the fact that they lack the flash rom capacity to take a 29MB flash. My router for example has a 32MB flash rom in it and DD-WRT shows the free capacity and 29MB in use, so its a tight install on my refurb router, but its operationally as a router flawless with exception to the odd LED status change in behavior. You also learn other stuff about your router of choice such as its processor speed in which my router runs at 350Mhz for its processor. It also has all sorts of statistics to look at and log if you want etc.

6802.

Solve : Pm8m3-vh motherboard restarts?

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I have a pm8m3-vh motherboard version 4.1 thats I decided to get a Pentium D 945 for since it suppose to support it. The problem is it restarts randomly with bsod all the time with the Pentium D 945, but if I put the Pentium 4 524 back in there's no problem at all.

I tired different bios,psu,ram, unhooked everything down to just a hard drive and fresh install of xp. I replace bad caps under heatsink even though bad, Pentium 4 524 never had problems. It can sit in bio all day long no problem. All temps are in good range.

Bio version 3.3
Ram 1gb stick super talent
Hard drive Seagate ST3160212SCE 160GB
Windows xp pro sp3
PSU delta electronics 350 watts


[attachment deleted by admin to conserve space]Looking online I cant seem to find any supporting information stating that the Pentium D 945 3.4Ghz is supported. Manual online suggests it tops off at 3.2Ghz and no mention of supporting Pentium D "Presler". It looks like its intended for Prescott only CPU's. Also the Pentium D 945 is a 95 watt CPU and the Pentium 4 524 is 84 watts so its more demanding of the VRM's and ( questionable capacitor health after partial or full repair ). The link in the manual is a dead link too. MSI gave up on this board long ago for adequate support.

Info on the BSOD you have that points to Motherboard & CPU Pair not happy or power supply unable to keep up with load or Caps near VRM's : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine-check_exception

Does the motherboard actually recognize this Pentium D 945 and run it at 3.4 Ghz? Usually if a board does not recognize the CPU you will have 1 of 3 issues.

- No boot with a CPU failure beep code or no beep code at all. ( Most Common )
- Microcode error at post that you can get past and have it run under a different CPU type ( More Common )
- No Microcode error, but it assumes a lesser CPU identity and runs at a lower clock ( Rare ).. ( I havent seen an instance of this since the Pentium III Slot 1 days in which a system that only was suppose to support up to a Pentium II 450Mhz was upgraded from a Pentium II 350Mhz to a Pentium III 550Mhz and the bios detected it as a Pentium II 450Mhz and ran the Pentium III 550Mhz underclocked at 450Mhz and stated that it was a Pentium II when it had a Pentium III 550Mhz in it in an old beige Compaq computer. )


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Specifications
CPU
• Supports Intel® Pentium® 4/ Prescott (LGA 775) processor.
• FSB 800/533MHz.
• Supports Intel P4 Prescott CPU up to 3.2GHz, and Intel P4 Prescott Celeron CPU.
(For the latest information about CPU, please visit
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_cpu_support.php )

http://us.msi.com/support/mb/PM8M3V.html#down-manual

I'd go back to the Pentium 4 524 and run that to have a stable computer to use if this is your only computer. A better healthier motherboard with further upgrade path for Core 2 Duo or Core 2 Quad could be bought to support the Pentium D 945. I'd go with a Core 2 Duo E6600 2.4Ghz or better myself vs a Pentium D as for the Core 2 Duo's are better performing. If you want to go with a Core 2 Quad though, the prices of these for both Core 2 Quad and motherboards that support the Core 2 Quad's are still quite pricey because these Core 2 Quads are still a well performing CPU for average gaming etc when paired up with a good video card etc.

Your gotta look for the PM8M3-V H with the h at end, version 3.0 and 4.1 pcb version support dual core. Version 4.1 has 3 pci slots. This info is from msi and here

It did recognize the Pentium D 945 and its 3.4ghz when I had bio version 3.0 but it wouldn't start after the bio check it just restarts. I updated bio to 3.3, 3.4 and 3.5 but went back to 3.3 but these 3 version booted to desktop but all restart from bsod eventually.

Its just a web browsing and media listening computer NOTHING major. Just trying to boost speed for 5 dollar processor

CPUID txt included.

[attachment deleted by admin to conserve space]hmm... info online at link you provided suggests 3.5 for the Pentium D 945, and your at 3.3 after downgrading back to 3.3 from 3.5 for stability reasons.

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Pentium D 945 (3.4GHz, C1, 95W)    800    17    SINCE 3.5

I'm thinking that the motherboard you have is just not able to keep up with that CPU. MSI has been known to have issues. The motherboard is happy with the other Pentium 4 CPU but not the better $5 CPU upgrade. Also the FSB of the P4 is 533Mhz and this Pentium D is 800Mhz, so the bus is running faster with this Pentium D and the motherboard might be struggling at 800Mhz FSB.

* Last check would be to make sure RAM sticks are DDR400 and not DDR333 which are being overclocked to 400Mhz to match the CPU FSB of 800Mhz.

Other than that, thoughts are that you will want to either downgrade back to the Pentium 4 or replace that motherboard. You have already gone the correct direction with trying to solve this with BIOS updates and 3.5 is worse than 3.3 with that Pentium D.

If you want better performance you might be able to pick up a refurb SSD pretty cheap like $35 for a 40GB and have that for the OS and swap and set up your 160GB HDD for just extra storage. I placed a 30GB OCZ SSD that I bought for $29.99 at newegg into a Pentium 4 2.8Ghz HT system with a older SATA 1 controller and it made the Pentium 4 2.8Ghz HT system run much quicker. This wasnt long term use, I just wanted to see how well or bad a Pentium 4 would handle a SSD and it made it feel quite snappy for booting and launching programs. BUT a SSD will not help in the processing power though so if you hitting a performance barrier which is because the Pentium 4 is hitting constant 100% utilizations and lagging in processing power then the SSD wont make any difference for a processor intensive application running.
I had bio 3.5 but it was no better. Ram is pc3200. It was just an attempt to get it faster some. It's not my main pc so the P4 will just be put back in.

One other thing is not all the time but it will sit on desktop no restarts at all till you start making the cpu work on opening and running programs then it will bsod eventually if not instant,  but it is faster with the Pentium D. So it must be running it some what right.
I'd try another PSU...even if you have to borrow 1 for a day...I tried 2 plus the one from my current pc to be sure. Its 350 watts thats running athlon 64 x2 5000+, 4x1gb sticks and amd radeon hd 6570. But it made no different, still bsod.

No idea why it dont work when msi site says it supported. I'll just leave the P4 in it. Quote
No idea why it dont work when msi site says it supported. I'll just leave the P4 in it.

The motherboard itself is stressed outside of healthy conditions with the better CPU is the problem. In your initial post you stated that the board already had bad caps that you replaced.

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I replace bad caps under heatsink even though bad, Pentium 4 524 never had problems.


Its quite possible that the VRM's were stressed by the lack of healthy caps and so even after replacing the caps, the VRM's are just enough for that P4 to run fine, but the Pentium D is drawing more than the VRMs can keep up with.

If your still checking back here, you could take a peek at core voltages using CPU-Z. But my guess is that with the Pentium D the issue your having is that when idle or when not working a heavy processing load the voltage is somewhat steady, but when the CPU goes to 80- 100% for both cores it may be dipping the voltage because it cant keep up with the additional current demand in which the CPU drops below the minimum healthy voltage known as the drop out voltage in which the CPU fumbles to a BSOD unable to error correct for a quick DIP in power to the CPU. I have seen the bad caps cook VRM's ( Voltage Regulators ).

The motherboard you have is outside of its intended spec for operating conditions because you have one or more stressed components I feel. And the most likely components are the VRM's. These are not as easily replaced as for they are surface mount and require special tools. I have replaced one before by cutting the legs off the dead one at the body, and taken one off of a donor board and soldered the legs of the replacement overtop of the legs of the dead one. But you have to be quick and precise with the soldering iron as for you want just enough heat to bond the legs, but not too much that the surface mount pad that the leg connects to delaminates from the PCB.

Easiest is obviously to run it with the P4 and know in the back of your mind that this system could fail sooner than later due to the motherboard being previously stressed.I think it did fail few days after P4 was back in computer freezes on windows xp screen loading, i tried to install it over and it freezes on installing devices about same spot all the time were it should have the windows pop ups to put pc name in. I checked core voltage in bio and it jumping all around 1.20-1.50. Quote
I checked core voltage in bio and it jumping all around 1.20-1.50

Did you replace all capacitor near the CPU that are tied to the VRM's or just the ones that seemed visibly troubled?

If you only replaced some but not all, if the VRM's are not trashed you could try replacing the other caps that havent been swapped out yet. Your motherboard has 2 cap types and the solid state caps you dont have to WORRY about. The caps that are troubled if any still remain are the can electrolytic type.

If you had an oscilloscope and probed the caps you should see a somewhat smooth constant voltage with the CPU at rest/idle. When the electrolytic caps fail I have seen them induce a severe ripple and they can weigh down the VRM associated with it. Removing the cap the worst part of the ripple goes away, but the filtering from the VRM to the CPU core is gone. Adding a healthy cap back to the circuit of the correct uF, Voltage, and making sure the polarity matches to the cap you removed you might be able to get a smooth voltage output to the CPU core again.

For the most part though... unless you already have the caps and havent replaced all of them around the CPU, your best bet is to get a replacement motherboard or another used system cheap or free. I recently got an older free Core Duo 1.83Ghz Toshiba Gaming laptop computer with GeForce 7300 GPU from Freecycle https://www.freecycle.org/ that just needs a new battery if I was to use it away from an outlet, so it has to be powerd off an outlet because battery life is about 5 minutes after full charge, as well as a nice Toshiba 27" TV for free so that I can play older video games that require the CRT TV, such as NES games with the gun wont work with modern flat screens etc and FREE is GOOD if it works !!! 

I gave this laptop to my daughter to use for homework research etc as for if she kills it, it was free anyways, and we can keep an eye on her to make sure she sticks to her homework on it at the kitchen table vs her using her desktop Dell Core 2 Duo E4500 that i also got for free that is up in her room as her personal desktop in which she likes to play games, chat with friends on FB, and not do research on it when she should etc.   I changed all the caps around cpu and ram with used caps I had but were good from what the esr meter read. This board is filled with ost caps that I hear are bad caps to begin with. The picture you seen that msi has of the board is false of what caps are on it, there's no polymers caps, all are electrolytic caps.

The caps that went bad were the six under the heatsink that were 680uf 4volts. I didnt have none so I went to a surplus store that carries capacitors and they only had 680uf in 50 volts so I run a 24awg solid core wire from the spots on board to the caps and mounted then safely. I do this many of times with motherboards I can't get the right cap size unless ordered online and it works again no problem plus it gets relocated away from heat.

I gave up on the motherboard and bought a used Gigabyte GA-G31M-ES2L REV 2.4 with 4gb Samsung ddr 2 6400u and Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz with heatsink and fan for $35 but Im upgrading that to a Core 2 Quad, Q8300 2.50 Ghz for $23. Hopefully all works, not bad for $58 bucks plus a Rosewill REDBONE tower for $42.74. Just waiting on it all to come.Good deal on the Core 2 Quad for $23. I was looking on ebay a short while back for any Core 2 Quads as an upgrade for my wife from her Core 2 Duo E6600 and the price tags were still above $50 for them used. Since the Core 2 Duo E6600 2.4Ghz is plenty anyways with the 4MB Cache I gave up on trying to hunt down a cheap upgrade for her.

Performance of that board replacement compared to what you had prior will be a significant upgrade.

Btw... I thought I was the only person out there who replaced capacitors at times relocating them and running a wire pair to the thru holes of the original cap position on the board. Good minds think alike.    I was out of bread board the one day and so I ended up hot glue gunning them to the back of a parallel port on the motherboard to secure them as well as squeeze some hot glue around the legs of the cap to insulate them from any future contact with anything. And if the caps are the only problem you can fix the motherboard and continue to use the board with replaced and relocated caps.

Hopefully you have better luck than I have with a Rosewill case. I have had issues with mATX cases where its a struggle to get the hard drive in if the motherboard is stuffed first and impossible to get the motherboard in if the hard drive is stuffed first. My solution for this clearance conflict was to flatten the wings on the 3.5" drive cage that is rivoted to the frame of the chasis and this then allowed for the hard drive to be installed after the motherboard was installed first with the hard drive entering the 3.5" drive cage at a 45 degree angle vs normally straight on in which the drive would rest on the wings, and with the wings bent flat out of the way you then bring the HDD back into normal position to line up with the 4 mounting holes. Additionally when removing the Front Panel there is no knock out to install a hard drive from the front of this case, so its a design flaw. (* I suppose if you had installed a motherboard that didn't already have its CPU and heatsink installed that is the only way to avoid bending the wings in the HDD mounting cage. ) This is the first case I ever ran into with special relation conflicts like this and I have built many other mATX systems. Difference is that the others had the ability to install the HDD through the front of the case so there was no issues with a motherboard that already had a CPU and Heatsink installed.

Best of luck with your upgradeYeah Hopefully all goes well with what I bought.

I can solder pretty good on electronics. I do my own repairing if i can find the problem, but when it comes to computers motherboards I can't get the solder to melt really and I use a 45 watt solder iron with 60/40 rosin core. I get the caps out easier then putting wire or cap back in. Stuff just wont melt specially on the positive lead thats had a square solder spot. I had some burn the hole up and solder didnt melt. I scrape the solder lead to clean it for better contact but still never really works.

Got any tips on getting them out easier? I pried caps off of there leads and soldered to then on the board but sometime they cant be solder to.

You do what you can when you don't got money to get some new or used pc stuff or its just a set up you like. So if replacing a cap and running wire and gluing it to some spot gets it working again then I have no problem with that. Might not look oem or nice but its moved out of the main heat area. Popsicle sticks work good before board failed.

[attachment deleted by admin to conserve space]Cool Pic... I've never gone the route of axial caps like this.

The soldering problem is caused by 2 problems.

1.) The traces in the motherboard act as a heatsink, and so the heat required to get the solder to flow is a lot, but small soldering irons have their heat sink away from them and struggle to then bring the temp back up to melting point of the lead and so I have seen with irons that arent heavy enough have the lead stick between the trace or thru hole and tip of iron when the heat is sinked away and the lead solidifies because its below melting temp. Also seen where trying to get the heat necessary with a soldering iron that isnt heavy enough cool the traces or barrel out of the thru hole because the heat is applied too long.

2.) I have generally carefully lifted the caps off of the board leaving their legs still soldered in. I then clip the top larger section of the leg off and discard it in trash. I then wrap the wire around the leg on top side of board. I then use a drop of flux and then use 60/40 and solder the wire that is wrapped around the leg post to it. I then tug test to make sure it flowed fused to the leg. Problems you can run into with this METHOD is a iron that isnt heavy enough to account for heatsinking from leg stuff in the board to wide large trace. Also electrolyte left behind from removing the cap body can cause solderability issues. As well as I have seen many legs that are tinned aluminum or other allow that doesnt like to bond with 60/40. So if the wire is wrapped around the base of the leg that was tinned by the manufacturer, you can usually get it to flow the solder around the fresh copper and bond with the tinning on the base of the leg of the old cap.

*With repairs like this, I would suggest to always apply a glob of hot glue on the exposed legs to insulate. This way if popsicle stick or how ever else way that they are adhered to the motherboard pops off causing them to hang free, you dont have risk of a short to other components or chassis ground. Hot Glue gun is my favorite tool for PC modding and tacking parts in place. On one case I ended up relocating the NIC LEDs to the front of my PC case. A simple mod of running a wire pair from each of the NIC's Activity LED to a new LED since the original LED in the NIC's was removed and too small and not enough leg left to reuse. Drilled small holes in front panel just a hair larger than the LEDs to slide into the mounting location, solder the legs to the wires with correct polarity, and a glob of hot glue to bond them to the front panel. Performed this mod because I wanted to know when there was Network activity without having to have a mirror behind case to look at to see the rear from the front.Never knew the board traces were that much to act as heatsink. Like I said I did the leave the leads in board and solder to them but like you said sometime it dont stick to it. You ever tried heating the board up with hair dryer or heatgun to help the solder iron any? Ill have to try it on the next one to see if it helps any.

I never insulate the leads on any I done. The solid core wire hold them in place even before hot glue specially on smaller caps, but its a good idea for protection.

The nic led on front is cool, I never thought of but it dont bother me if its blinking or not as long as internet working Im fine.
6803.

Solve : Router Encryption Settings?

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I need to update the encryption settings on my SIL's Verizon router. She is still using WEP. Does the router have to be connected to her PC when I do this? Put another way, can I bring her router to my house, connect it to my Verizon Ethernet, configure it (WPA2 settings, network name and password) and then take it back to her house and simply connect it there? I assume I can NOT do this because my IP address is different. Thanks.

PS Yes, I know it would be easier to just do it at her house but I have my reasons for asking.Think I have found the answer. Every Verizon router (at least the particular model we have) has the same IP address. The various devices which connect to that router are assigned their own IP address. So, it looks like the router can be configured from any PC. I will confirm that tomorrow. Here is what I discovered. I can configure the router from a different PC but each router is specific to Verizon Ethernet. So, I can get a strong WiFi signal but no connection to the internet.Please GIVE more details about your setup.
Name of the ISP (Internet Service Provider)  and what kind of modem they provided. Is the modem also a router?
What BRAND and model of wireless router, if any,  do you use?
Did your ISP provide specific information about security settings?
Example: One provider needs the MAC address of the  main computer used  in your house or office. If not present, the connection will fail. This is a security measure.

One one time everything was working good?
Then you made a change and is became unreliable?

BTW, it is  important to tell if you reusing a older OS or something other than Windows. SOMETIMES the OS itself does not support a security protocol.

Verizon is our ISP. We both have Actiontec MI424-WR routers. She never upgraded from the original WEP encryption. I upgraded her to WPA2 and assigned a username/password for her router and WPA2 key for her network. She was not having any issues related to the old encryption, but coincidentally she just (yesterday) BEGAN having problems connecting to the internet from her iPad 2 although she says her old iPhone 4 connected fine (maybe she thought she was connected to WiFi but really it was 3G). She also has a Netgear 2000RPT extender. I rebooted/reconfigured extender and everything seems to be working fine. Yes, Verizon gives detailed router settings. We both have Win 7 Home Edition.

When I connected my router to her system, my iPad found and connected to the WiFi network fine but it would not connect to the internet. Since the router "Internet On" light was orange instead of green, I assumed the problem was not within the router but rather her Verizon main box was not recognizing my router.

Bottom line is you can configure these Verizon routers from any PC but they will not connect to the Internet from any PC.

6804.

Solve : AMD Athlon vs AMD Phenom?

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I recently acquired a Motherboard (M2N68-LA) with an extra CPU and after trying different searches, i'm having a problem finding out which would be better for me. First of all, I don't do ANY Gaming, at all. I watch alot of online videos and movies off my hard drive and occasionally a little video/audio editing with avs4you.
Can anyone that understands CPU's tell me which one would be better for me?
All comments are very appreciated.
Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 with 4 GB DDR2 Ram

AMD Athlon Dual Core 7550 2.50 GHz or AMD Phenom 8400 Triple Core 2.10 GHz



[attachment deleted by admin to conserve space]Lots of info out there on these.

Each CPU benchmark

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Phenom+8400+Triple-Core

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Athlon+7550+Dual-Core&id=99

CPU comparison

http://cpuboss.com/cpus/AMD-Phenom-X3-8400-vs-AMD-Athlon-X2-7750

They are close in performance. If you were looking to overclock the Athlon looks like its unlocked while the Phenom is locked. Also the Tripple core phenom is only 2.1Ghz while the Athlon makes up in performance for lacking a core in the faster 2.7Ghz clock.

You could always try each one out and SEE which one you like best. There are situations where the Athlon would be better than the Phenom. Testing them out of probably your best bet. Maybe the difference will be unnoticeable.

The Athlon looks like it could take an overclock to 3.22Ghz if you can keep it cool and run healthy timings without issues of bugs showing up with board or RAM tripping up on the cranked to 3.22Ghz clock of the Athlon with max overclock.

The Phenom could also be overclocked, but because its a locked CPU, only method of overclock to 2.44Ghz would be by upping the FSB on the memory. I have had to overclock this WAY with a locked Athlon 64 x2 4450B from 2.3 Ghz to 2.53Ghz raising the FSB from 200 to 220Mhz with locked multiplier of 11.5 for a 10% overclock which adds to performance and I am able to stay cool on stock cooler ( cast aluminum heatsink and FAN )

I already went that route for a few simple tasks but didn't really notice much difference. I was just curious since the Phenom is Triple Core that maybe it was better at multitasking background apps. I also looked at the Benchmarks but didn't understand them much. Thanks for your input though and quick responce.

JohnThese CPU's are very close in processing power ... Only other thoughts on an extra core with the Phenom would be if you wanted to use Core Affinity to allocate specific cores to specific tasks etc, so that instead of multitasking with all cores juggling the workload, you could specify an important task to not lag to have Core Affinity to give say 2 cores to a really important task and leave the 3rd core for the OS and web browser to function etc, and prioritize 2 of the 3 cores for crunching whatever task you need to have maximum processing power without competing with the other LESSER important CPU use duties.

But as far as core affinity goes, I have only used it for playing older games built back before multiple core CPU's which act up when you give the game a 4 core CPU, in which for example the game Unreal Tournament 99  ( 1999 edition ) was made for Pentium III and Pentium 4 single core type systems and the game acts up with freeze framing with use of all 4 cores of my Athlon II x4 620  2.6Ghz quadcore, but the minute you set the core affinity to use Core 0 for the game and leave Cores 1,2,3 for everything else the game runs perfectly fine as if it was running on a single core CPU at 2.6GhzWow, didn't know that was even possible. Definitely food for thought. Thanks again for your help on this.

John

6805.

Solve : Cpu overheating idle 37-44; stress 110-120*c?

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hello there, i have this problem with overheating for like 2 YEARS already, then month ago i were touching components in my pc case while stressing PC and got hit by back fan blade, i got scared and accidentally slapped my cooler master tx3 evo, temps instantly decreased from 120*c to 60*c and never again gone higher than that until today. Today when i woke up i heard cooler fan noise like there is wire touching fan blades so i open up pc case to check, i fixed it but when i turned on pc, temps are back on same 40*c idle 120*c stress 125*c shutdown... Could anyone tell whats the problem and why back then hitting cooler decreased cpu temperature?

Note: Cooler is not dirty, other parts are not dirty, new thermal compound, applied like 20 times always same result, Cpu is not overclocked, Cpu is AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+.
Thanks in advance.Hi, and welcome to the forums.

There could be any number of reasons why knocking your cooler would cause instant cooling results but it's probably best to COVER all bases:

- Thermal paste/grease.  You say that you have re-applied thermal paste several times so scratch this one. [Note only a pea sized amount is needed, clean off old paste before applying new]

- Heat sink contact with CPU. AMD CPU's are fairly idiot proof, make sure the clips are in and pull the lever down. [Cooler should sit firmly in place]

- Faulty thermal sensor on mother board. Not a LOT that you can do about this one but it can be evidenced by high temperatures on cold start up (Boot immediately into BIOS and check temperatures, they should be a little over ambient room temperatures. [Note this is assuming correct functionality of CPU cooler]

- CPU Fan Fault. Does the BIOS report reasonable CPU fan speeds? [800 - 2,800 RPM (PWM) ± 10% or 800 - 2,200 RPM (PWM) ± 10% (EU Version)] Given the odd noises which you have REPORTED I would suspect this to be the culprit.

I HOPE this helps.


It's a shame it's not a liquid cooling system. This would have been a much shorter reply: Air lock, shake it about a bit. Thermal paste/grease- tried all amounts from a lot to very little all have same result, spent more money for thermal paste then cpu is worth..
 Heat sink contact with CPU- well i had stock cooler when this started(u just cant mount that cooler incorrectly) i thought its bad cooler so i bought hyper tx3 evo which gives same result...
 Faulty thermal sensor on mother board -well i don't know from cold start if i remember correctly it was 35*c while it was 23-26*c in room
 CPU Fan Fault- i have eu version 1800 rmp idle 2400 rmp load, it does spin fast noise is from running out of oil i think, but doesn't affect performance..

6806.

Solve : Help with diagnosis - I suspect my HD?

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Hello friends,

I'll include screen shots in a bit. My computer experienced apparently RANDOM slowdowns, with frames dropping to 5 fps or so for a few moments.  It DOES often happen when opening a new program, or even a new window in Chrome.  It ALSO happens in the middle of a game.  I initially thought my system was running hot, so I cleaned out all the FANS, replaced a few whose bearings were getting old and tried again.  I also replaced the video card, (The old one's fan wasn't running very smoothly).

I only have problems during the slowdown period otherwise my games run at full speed, my video capture works fine, and otherwise behaves normally.

I have 2 HDD set to raid 0, and I have a hard time believing it is them, they are only 2 years old.  Going through my actions above, I GUESS they should be suspect, but I'd like some help before I drop the cash buying new ones.

Thanks-
Mal








[attachment deleted by admin to conserve space]This link applies to Vista and Windows 7
How to Check Disc for Errors.
Most of the timed that will work.






Nothing in the pic refers to the HDD...DLoad and run the Free DIAGNOSTICS from the HDD manuf. site...
Run the LONG test...and DO NOT interrupt it...even if it seems to hang.Try to run HDD regenerator to check your HD if has Delayed or Bad sector.

6807.

Solve : Why is the iPhone 6 more expensive than an iPad air 2?...?

Answer» http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Latest-Apple-iPad-Air-2-128GB-GOLD-Wi-Fi-4G-Cellular-Unlocked-NEW-SEALED-/281610299217?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item4191482751
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/APPLE-iPHONE-6-PLUS-128GB-SPACE-GREY-UNLOCKED-BRAND-NEW-A1524-AUSLUCK-/151443006875?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item2342b4e59b

I find this quite strange you'd think that an iPad would cost more to make, and more to buy but it isn't i have looked around for a while and everywhere the iPhone is more expensive. but why? iPad is bigger larger battery larger screen they both have 4g and sim card slots so it cant be that stuff, if the difference is purely that one is newer than that makes me slightly angry. That apple are charging more just because is new. i thought apple were better than this. because we all now that that thing will devaluate like milk so people who have bought the iPhone 6 plus are basically loosing atleast 1/2 of their money, which is the sad truth but i still don't know why they are paying that much in the first place phones that are older like the sony xperia z ultra have devaluated and are still more powerful than an iphone 6 plus. But back to my main point why is an iPhone more expensive than an iPad? i cant see any point to is EXCEPT apple are greedy and want our cash and that's it.
Someone please help me out here, lolIts simple... Apple has never made an inexpensive product... Its one of the many reasons why I am on PC's that run Windows and Linux because I dont want to be sucked into a deep pocket greed that thrive on those who have to have Apple products.

Only Apple products I have ever had was iTunes which was free, but havent used it in years now. A 2nd hand iPod for $40 which was why i needed iTunes to begin with to update music on it etc, and a Mac Classic that was given to me for free many years ago when it didnt work and I fixed it and then realized how limited it was and got rid of it.

Since then I occasionally assisted FRIENDS with their troubled Apple / Mac systems and its a .... "frustrating experience" to keep it clean here 

I like universal parts that are not so proprietary etc that you can mix and match vs the limitations of Apple systems etc.

I have had many people APPROACH me for support for their Apple computers and I explain to them "Sorry I only work on IBM Compatible computers that run non-Apple OS's such as Windows or Linux Distros."

They ask why and i explain all the limitations that Apple places on their software and hardware that make it a royal pain to work on. This is this way because they want their OS to be the most secure and less likely for a user to click on something wrong and kill the OS etc. But when you need to get in there and make changes as an admin, Apples OS treats you as if your a dumb user and that just frustrates the heck out of me when I am the admin, so give me full control to make whatever changes are necessary vs Apple Approved changes only etc. 

They pretty much want you to start with a clean install every time there is a problem and kind of force you to do it vs being able to correct for problems manually.

Sorry about the rant on Apple...  Quote from: DaveLembke on May 06, 2015, 11:51:08 AM
Apple has never made an inexpensive product
The Apple II had an incredibly high value for money when it was released.

As for the question- the iPad is less expensive because it uses a slower processor and doesn't have TouchID. Also because of the larger form factor the iPad can use less expensive radio components, whereas the iPhone needs them to be smaller (and thus more expensive). The iPhone 6 battery for example is several TIMES more expensive WHOLESALE than the iPad battery simply because it is so much smaller.

Also, unlike the iPad, the iPhone is sold with the knowledge that the cost will typically be subsidized by a cellphone company. This is why the price point is also similar to the price point of competing android smartphones.
6808.

Solve : can a dvd damage a monitor??

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I was watching a dvd the other day on my laptop (a legitimate copy, bought an hour earlier) and about HALFWAY into the movie the picture went nuts and the whole laptop froze, so I had to reset it. When I restarted and loaded the dvd again (after checking it was ok - no damage to the disk, not exceedingly hot), on the black screen during loading of Windows I could see vertical lines on the monitor and when I started the movie again, the picture was pixellated and blurry and kept jumping. This now happens to every video regardless of the movie player (I've tried two different ones that never failed me before and movies that worked perfectly before). So... could it actually have been the dvd that damaged my monitor? And if not, what could have happened?It wasn't the DVD. POSSIBLY some hardware damage. Best to take it to a repair shop.
diagnose your laptop, try to connect to an EXTERNAL monitor using VGA or hdmi cable then start your laptop. observe the display of external monitor. if you find something good, then your LCD or flex has the problem. and if still pixelated or blurry then i think the video card is the problem.

6809.

Solve : PC shuts down without warning - Not overheating.?

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Hi guys,

I bought a PC in September and ever since I've had it, it's been shutting down without warning at completely random times.  It's some times even after 10 minutes.  The seller has had the PC back several times, swapped the PSU with a 700 watt one and put a very large fan in the PC, next to the processor.  The computer runs quietly and seems to have a lot of air coming through it.

I would say it only really happens when I'm gaming.. and not just modern gaming, I'm talking DOSbox stuff, so I really don't think it's the graphics card struggling.  Some times it happens when I'm gaming on one monitor, with a film on in the background on the other monitor.  However, I'm not talking about an incapable, old PC here.  The seller assured me I could even play Battlefield 3 on the PC, but I'm struggling to play Dark Forces on it.

There is nothing really showing in Event Viewer, other than the PC unexpectedly shutting down.  On one occasion, there did seem to be a slight burning smell.  On another, there was a blue screen and I wrote it down somewhere, but it's been misplaced... since I thought the issue was resolved.

My initial idea is it MUST be hardware compatibility.  I thought some third party software is conflicting with another or a driver causes the issue, but I thought I would have had found something in Event Viewer.

One thing to mention, is the PC is plugged into a long extension cable, being shared with another 5 appliances.  Could this possibly be the issue and a voltage one?

Any help would be gratefully appreciated.

Many thanks,
Spyke



[attachment deleted by admin to conserve space]It takes over 100 little  parts to make a motherboard work right. A failure of one or two can bring it down. Bear in mind that even the FAA has trouble solving electronic mysteries. Some troubleshooting is not practical for a home user.

IMO, the user should not have to pay for the quality control for n a maker or vendor. Rather, the vendor should provide a 100% replacement for the entire unit. Then it falls upon the vendor to figure it out on his time.

Here is just one of a hundred opposites. The CPU is not matched to the chipset. It was a mistake on the part of the maker to put both in the same motherboard. Rare? It does happen. Is that what happened to you/? Not likely, but there are  somethings that do happen and a re never likely.

Do Google search and find that most users rely on just common sensed and intuition. Nothing wrong with that, except it is  not a resubstitute of the equipment the the OEM has. It is  is the responsibility of the maker to find the strange things.

Is short, if you had unresolved issue from the beginning, the vendor should replace the whole thing. The user should not have top do the troubleshooting.

Quote

On one occasion, there did seem to be a slight burning smell.

If you know it was the PC that the smell came from this is not good. To keep running after a smell its likely an analog component like a resistor or capacitor that cooked, however I have seen voltage regulators heat up to the point that they change the green PCB mask brown and yet continue to somehow keep working.

Quote
One thing to mention, is the PC is plugged into a long extension cable, being shared with another 5 appliances.  Could this possibly be the issue and a voltage one?

I'd get the PC onto its own outlet or at least if an extension cord is needed, give it a DEDICATED run to an outlet that the other 5 appliances are not running on.

I have seen computers reboot as the result of Microwave Ovens, Toasters, Toaster Ovens, Skillets, ... Power Saws, Welders, etc.. pretty much anything that pulls a heavy load on household wiring and causes voltage dips.

One other solution to get rid of power dips and LOW voltage conditions if you have lack of outlets and shady wiring in the home is to add a Battery Backup ( UPS ). This can plug into extension cord and PC plugged into the battery backup plug of the unit. Whenever there is a voltage dip or continuous dip, the battery backup will QUICKLY engage and keep the power to the computer at the correct voltage level so that the system doesnt reset, shutdown, or crash on you.

Just NEVER plug any appliances into a battery backup. I have seen people plug space heaters into them because they didnt have enough outlets in an office and the battery backup had 8 outlets 4 of which are battery backup and the other 4 were SURGE protection only. The office manager brought in a space heater from home and plugged it into a surge only outlet on the UPS and turned the heater on. Within about 10 minutes he melted the board inside the battery backup. He turned it on and walked out of his office to manage some clerks on stocking shelves etc and then heard smoke detector going off. he ran back to his office and there was a blue cloud of smoke in there that hovered and everything plugged into the battery backup was off. When i got there to the call back at my last job when i worked as systems admin IT/MIS to a call that the computer was smoking, I found the space heater tucked around the corner and the plug mangled still plugged into the APC Battery Backup. The manager tried to remove the heater for fear that he would get into trouble but the plastic on the plug and battery backup case fused together and since cooled and it didnt want to unplug. Replaced the battery backup and cut the cord to space heater and threw it into the dumpster out back after first removing the 12V battery from the battery backup. Told manager not to plug anything else into the new battery backup unless I approve it, and a space heater needs to be on its own outlet so talk to GM about getting adequate heat in office or getting electrician in to add an outlet just for the heater etc.  It is definitely the RAM problem,may be your system do es not supporting the RAM what you are using so the better option will be to change the RAM with high storage.Feel free to ignore the above postA PC shutdown at random is a chronic problem.
Here are some links of interest:
My PC Randomly Shuts Down By Itself

OR
Computer Shuts Down Randomly
You Tube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjurHObuvZo
very boring video 
How did you determine it wasn't Temps ? ?
6810.

Solve : Monitor connection problem.?

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I have just bought a Dell 2414H monitor which was supplied with a DP cable.  My motherboard ASUS P8H67 M Pro has only AVG, DVi-D and HDMI ports.  The monitor has HDMI MHL ports but when I CONNECT a HDMI lead I just get a message that no MHL cable is connected.  Can anyone help, please?It appears that the monitor you have bought (Dell U2414H 23.8") is designed for mobile devise use. I.e. for connecting your smart phone or tablet to. HDMI MHL (Mobile High-Definition Link) is slightly different from standard HDMI. I'll be honest other than the connector size I have no idea why. I personally haven't played with any of this yet.

Anyway to cut a long waffle SHORT. You're going to need a HDMI to Display Port adapter. Some other members might be ABLE to help with product recommendations once we know you country of origin.

6811.

Solve : What to Look for in Buying New External Hard Drive?

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I have two shot Western DIGITAL external hard drives. A My Book and another one. I'm very wary at this point about backing up my data since these things keep dying. But I need to backup my data! I am looking for an external hard drive I can be confident in. I know they all die at some point, but it's happening too quickly for my taste. I'm talking a couple of years - not decades. What specs do I need to compare? How do I determine what's a superior unit based on specs? (For obvious reasons I'm not too keen on WD).Just pick a name you know.  And sorry you've had trouble with them, WD is a top notch brand. When working with external drives you need to keep two things in mind:

1) Treat them gently.

2) Only connect them when needed. When not in use, store them where they won't be jostled and the temperatures won't get too hot or too cold.

I have pretty much every major brand of external drive, big and small, and have never had any issues whatsoever (and some are probably 10 to 15 years old)Allan is right.
The PROBLEMS with some drives are now history, The products being sold now are very good. Some stores have reports from users that can help identify problems. Expect a good backup drive to last 5ive years if you only use it as needed.
Thanks guys.My brother has been using an old WD 1 TB hard drive that requires an external power source to work for over 4 years now.
It's full of crap and he plugs it in 50% of the time. It still seams to be working, i don't know what magic he uses though.  You don't need magic for a drive to work as it's supposed to.I always buy a drive after first checking user REVIEWS on the web first. I dont buy the next new model. Some models are more prone to failure. I prefered seagate for the longest time, however when i was buying my 3TB I found out that the drives that use to be made at a better quality manufacturing site were now being manufactured at a questionable quality site in china vs I think it was Singapore before. The 3TB still works, but is not used often. Its only used when performing a backup or looking for a file from ages ago and then its powered off again. The model I had bought had some complaints of if used constantly the drives could overheat. A problem that many externals have is that they are not well at vending HEAT and so the drive bakes in the plastic shell... For some other drives that use to run warm in their cases I moved them to a Rosewill aluminum case that has a fan built into it and the drives stay cooler and so my 1TB and 1.5TB that are a mirror copy of the 3TB's data as a last means of recovery if the 3TB died because I have had all my data eggs in 1 basket before and had a complete loss of data. So with externals I have multiple backups for important data. I also bought a SSD drive and added that to an external enclosure and so that is a rugged external data storage that wont have same problems as a HDD that if bumped could crash the drive. I almost lost my 3TB drive when i went to move my fan the one day and its cord was wrapped with the USB cable. The drive already on the floor fell to the side from its upright position and hit the metal leg of the desk on the floor. And I cringed... fortunately it was not spinning at the time and so it didnt damage the platters. But I had a  moment when I saw that happen!   My preference has always been to use Enclosures for external drives. This allows me more flexibility as I can then purchase an internal drive with the appropriate specifications. Most External hard disks are designed for storage and finding 5400RPM drives inside is not uncommon. Another advantage is that I can easily swap Internal drives around and access them from another PC if necessary.

6812.

Solve : Unexplained beeps in the computer – please help!?

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My computer's hardware specification are:

Intel Core i7-3820 3.60Ghz
Corsair Vengeance 32GB RAM (4X8GB)
Windows 7 64-bit
Asus Extreme Motherboard
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 3GB
Creative SB X-Fi Xtream
Corsair TX850 – power supply
1HD – 256GB SSD
2HD – 2TB – Western Digital


Yesterday (for some unexpected reason) whenever I started a high level game – such as WOW, Diablo, GTA V, Tera and more – after about 5-6 minutes the computer started beeping!

The beeps come from the motherboard speaker and not the actual speakers.
The beeps are random and are inconsistent. They can be one beep, 4 beeps, 3 beeps or any combination of them.
There is no specific pattern that I can see.

I have done the Microsoft memory test, two separate graphic card stress tests, checked the hard drives for errors.
I have disconnected all the cards, cleaned the motherboard, the power supply and the three 22mm fans in the midi-tower.
I have checked the temp with Everest, CPUID HWMonitor and OCCT. I have also checked internally for any abnormalities, malware and such.
There are no clear errors in the event viewer that I can guess.
I have rechecked all settings in the BIOS for the temp/fan/CPU monitoring options.

For the life of me I cannot find the CAUSE of this mad beeping! And it is driving me crazy!

Any help would be great.

Kind Regards,
SD


[attachment deleted by admin to conserve space]From Our Archives....

Note: Your NEWER BIOS may have different ones...Hi,

Thank you.
Different ones? what did you mean?

Kind Regards,
SDThere are different codes for different BIOS's...

BTW Welcome Aboard...Thank you very much.
I have tried every VARIATION of the monitoring factors in the BIOS with no success.
The temps appear to be fine...however do a screenshot after gaming for awhile as those look like idle Temps...

I'd also contact the MBoard manuf and see...During gaming the temp go up to 50-60 but this has always been this way.
You think it has something to do with temp/motherboard configurations or malfunction?
Here is a post from another forum.
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/496916/random-beeps/
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About 6 months ago, I had a pc built for me. Its worked great up until recently, now its Beeping randomly while running and I have no idea why. I have been looking around at different forums and have tried several things.
Originally I assumed it might be overheating. So I cleaned out the Dust with my trusty can of air and even monitored the heat levels with two different software. Usually the heat ranged from 30-40 degrees C. Which really didn't seem all that hot to me.   
...
No credible solution was found. 
So why post it ? ?... Quote from: patio on May 10, 2015, 05:03:25 PM
So why post it ? ?...
Well, you did ask...
OP, can you undo (remove) the HDD and run just on the SSD?
If so, try that. The HDD may be the unlikely cause of the beeping.
(No explanation.) 

No...i didn't ask for an answer that led nowhere...

I doubt a HDD...SSD or otherwise would cause MBoard beeps...A Hard can and does make a noise that sounds to some like a beep.more...
Also, some motherboards sound the alarm if the fan is not detected.
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/344603-28-sounding-alarm-siren-thinking-stopped-working
But the OP of this thread says It starts when gaming. This would suggest it is the GPU fan that is making noise when it gets to a specific speed. May bad bearings.

Can the OP verify the sound really COMES from the motherboard squawker and not some;thing else?  And is it a piezoelectric  transducer? Such noisemakers can squawk for  strange reasons.

Also, some motherboards will turn on the beep when a temp probe goes over a limit, then off when it goes back down. Good morning,

Thank you.
The HDD is a new one that I have replaced 2 weeks ago.
I unplugged it and the beeps are still there. I used a heavy stress test on the PC and with or without the HDD the beeps happened.
They originate from the motherboard.

SDHi again,

To help you help me ( ) I am attaching a sound file with the beeps.
I do hope this will help you see how frustrating this can be. It goes on for about 35 minutes at a time.

Kind Regards,

SD


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6813.

Solve : Acer Aspire V3 771G - Overheating??

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I'm WORRIED somethings wrong and my laptop is overheating. I recently got my keyboard replaced and recently I've begun to notice that my laptop feels very WARM under use. Like, I play a 10 year old game, and during it I can feel my laptop is quite warm. Especially around WASD and the left side of the keyboard, I can feel its pretty hot.

This is probably why I'm having a lot of performance issues.

I've also noticed lately that under task manager, my memory usage is around 50% very often.

Is there any programs I can use to detect what exactly is giving the high temps, and solutions that I should try?DLoad and install SpeedFan...
It won't tell you what app is doing it but it will give you accurate TEMP READINGS.

6814.

Solve : Microphone switched to Line-In??

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The other night while getting up from my computer I accidentally got my foot stuck in my headphone cable and yanked on it. Luckily it didn't damage the headphones as far as I can TELL but at the time I was in a Skype call and I could still hear my friend but my microphone had stopped working and Skype could no longer find my microphone even though it was hooked up. So I tried a different pair of headphones thinking that my microphone had broke but to no prevail as they had the same problem. My computer could pick up that there was indeed a microphone plugged in after a restart and so could Skype but instead of picking up my voice the only thing the microphone was recording was my computer sounds such as songs or anything coming through my speakers. So I tested my headphones on the back microphone jack and the microphone worked but the thing is with the jack in the back of my computer the quality is very low and the entire time there is a screeching sound in the background (This is not the headphones I don't use the back jack because it has always been like this no matter the pair of headphones) I WOULD really like help in restoring the front jack if possible and if any additional info is needed please tell me!

-Screenshots of what the front jack looks like (Sorry some of them are side ways and low quality)-






[attachment deleted by admin to CONSERVE space]Buy a sound card...cheaper than repairing the front header...I would but my computer doesn't have ROOM for a sound cardBummer...You damaged the thing when you tripped over it.
Get a Bluetooth wireless headset.


Quote from: Geek-9pm on May 18, 2015, 10:44:58 PM

You damaged the thing when you tripped over it.
Get a Bluetooth wireless headset.
Ah that sucks but okayHere is why I said that. You can try to repair it yourself, but it is a real pain.
Listen to this guy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJEKW-ae6f4
He says just get a USB audio adapter.
 That you tube link  also has some other tips about messing with the audio input and output things for your computer. Might give your some ideas.

Hard to believe you have no available slots...what are your PC specs ? Quote from: patio on May 19, 2015, 02:49:50 PM
Hard to believe you have no available slots...what are your PC specs ?
I have no slots open for a sound card I just use the integrated sound card on my motherboard. This is mainly because my motherboard's ethernet connection didn't work so I had to buy an internet card. Also my PC is custom built so what specs are you looking for? Quote from: Geek-9pm on May 19, 2015, 11:13:21 AM
Here is why I said that. You can try to repair it yourself, but it is a real pain.
Listen to this guy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJEKW-ae6f4
He says just get a USB audio adapter.
 That you tube link  also has some other tips about messing with the audio input and output things for your computer. Might give your some ideas.
That sounds like an amazing idea! Thank you!Nevermind...Here is a thought.
Anybody that has only one PCI clot available and a flaky  motherboard may with to consider  adding a PCI to USB board.That way one would have four or t five ports that can handle adapters for Audio, Camera. Ethernet, Printer,Wireless .
Look at this:

The one in the photo above is USB 2.0 and sells for under $15 on line. It could extend the life of the motherboard as a workaround for the on-board things that fail. Of course, someday you have to replace the motherboard.
Funny...i thought he needed sound... Quote from: patio on May 19, 2015, 03:28:14 PM
Funny...i thought he needed sound...
He NEEDS a new motherboard. His Ethernet is already blown.
The five port USB is a cheap crutch for a crippled system.
Quote from: Geek-9pm on May 19, 2015, 09:06:49 PM
His Ethernet is already blown.

Nothing in the Original post suggests anything more than physical damage to the front connector.

I suspect the "low quality" from the rear connector may have been a result of plugging the headphones into an unamplified jack (such as Line out).



6815.

Solve : Intel Xeon for Games?

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What do people think an Intel Xeon E5-2699 v3 would be like for game use?

Socket: LGA2011-v3
Clock Speed: 2.3 GHz
Turbo Speed: 3.6 GHz
No of Cores: 18 (2 logical cores per physical)
Max TDP: 145 W

(Not that I'm planning on doing this)

This thing is going to have been built with large servers in mind so it will be optimized for such. But what if? What if you had a Minecraft server with one of these babies & 256GB of RAM?A Game Server and a Game are two different things.The question has been asked by some. Many. Everybody.
First, one would think that if it is so great, why has Intel never  recommended it for home and office users? Because it is not for them.
There is a lot, a lot, pf bad reports. Here is a video that wants  to clear your head.

Intel Core i7 vs Xeon

The answer will not overwhelm you! 
What makes you think you would need it.  For running a game the GPU is way more important than the CPU.  You would be wasting your money and I doubt you'll notice any difference in games over an i7 or similar..  Besides, most Xeons have an equivalent i7 or i5 variant, there are very little difference in the average user's use.

For a single minecraft server (or any other game server) that it also a total waste of money, you can do that on even a basic PC.

Xeons are designed for running in high end servers where you would have ECC memory so it can remain stable for years on end without needing rebooted and so that you can have multiple, physical CPUs in one system so you can either perform massive computations or divide the system up into several powerful VIRTUAL machines, they are not designed for regular use and are priced as such.

The only time a Xeon would be appropriate is if you were planning on having a machine running loads of different servers inside virtual machines at the same time.  But then the question is why you would be building it yourself instead of buying a proper server system from the likes of Dell or HP and why you wouldn't be either colocating it or renting it from a proper datacenter.Intel doesn't recommend/market Xeons towards everyday users because it is not a consumer chip. it is demonstrably more powerful than their equivalent i7 chip, but at the cost of having a server-oriented feature set (no graphics capability and added Virtualization, support for ECC RAM, larger L1 caches, far more cores, ETC). The chips are also typically far more expensive than their consumer counterpart which is why they are aimed at companies that can afford it.

For a standard consumer purpose- such as playing a game- a Xeon's capabilities will not tend to lead to it performing much better than a similar i7. However in the context of, say, game servers, the added cores and L1 CACHE would certainly lead to better performance of the server, in particular when running numerous such servers. The entire point of the processor is for running server software, after all.

I also agree that it would be a waste of money to get one of these for a minecraft server. The CPU would have like 99.9% CPU utilization idle time serving the game up to the small group of players. Its so overkill for that application.

If you plan on thousands of people connecting to minecraft to your hosted world then it might not be overkill. As for max player count can be an integer value of  (0-2147483647) according to http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Server.properties
 
However if your plan is to have thousands connecting to your world, I'd start small with a regular computer and get people connected to it and if you start to see hardware vs network lag then look towards upgrading to better hardware.For most people, price has to be a consideration.
$99.99
Intel G3470 3MB Haswell Dual-Core 3.6GHz
$131.21
Intel Core I3-4170 3.70GHz

Go up to the i7 and you go above $300.

Top of the heap consumer computers use some kind of Intel CPU.
Less often an AMD.
Only Apple would build a computer with a Xeon CPU.

Quote from: Geek-9pm on May 17, 2015, 03:06:02 PM

Only Apple would build a computer with a Xeon CPU.
And Dell, Lenovo, HP... The list goes on...Awesome, a video explanation and a new Youtube subscription.

Also QUOTING from myself earlier:
Quote from: Accessless on May 17, 2015, 01:50:50 PM
(Not that I'm planning on doing this)

Ever
6816.

Solve : pc won't start. .?

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My computer has just stopped booting up. I push the power button & it comes on for about 3sec then stops then tries to start again by itself & keeps doing this till I TURN the power off. I was having trouble with overheating in the CPU.
Found the fan was not working but unplugged it from the board put back in & it was working. I cleaned the fan & heat UNIT under it & from then on it's not powering up. It was working all ok till I found out CPU trouble. Could the CPU BURN out to make computer not start. Get no beeping noise at start . Just keep on blue screen . The CPU is the i7 3.4ghz
Quad core . Computer is zoomstorm with Wins 8.1 , ram 8gb , graphics card Nivida 660GTX 2GB.

Thanks for any help 

Jenzo Quote

I push the power button & it comes on for about 3sec then stops then tries to start again by itself & keeps doing this till I turn the power off.

While this was posted on 5/7 and I just found this today when looking for 0 response posts on 5/18. If this is still an issue.. Have you tried a repair installation? What does the BSOD EXACTLY state that can give insight as to what exact problem you have?

Most modern CPU's will PROTECT themselves from cooking to death so I have doubts that the CPU is toast.
6817.

Solve : Heat sink without clips?

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I've recently come across an upgrade for an old computer but now I need a new cooler. Due to the CPU and space I've got to work with I have determined that the Bequiet! SHADOW ROCK TOPFLOW (BK012) is the best for the job. The catch is that it can be SOLD without the brackets needed for mounting. Now, I've never encountered this before and find it rather confusing. So, does anyone know if you can buy clips/brackets separately?

Cheers.I'd never buy a cooler that didn't come with brackets/holdowns...
But thats just me...I know. It's just an alien concept.

I just assumed that it was just the LATEST in money pinching marketing or something.What socket are you wanting to use the cooler on?  You MAY be able to buy them separately but you'd probably have to GO direct to bequiet if you can't find them sold elsewhere.*Update*

GOING with a different cooler. Space issues arose with my original choice.

Also my last post should have read "I just assumed that it was just the latest in money pinching marketing scheme or something."

6818.

Solve : External WiDi card for laptops ??

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Hi all hope all is well.

Currently have 1 laptop with widi built in transmitting to a push2tv receiver on a VIZIO HDTV which works great.
We also have a few other LAPTOPS which DO NOT come with widi already installed. I was wondering if there is an external usb widi card that we can plug into a laptop so the SCREEN can be displayed on the TV ?

Thanks in ADVANCE,
MP.Quick google search SHOWS some. Not sure how good they are though as for I haven't played with this yet.

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=widi+usbTYVM Dave.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=0V5-0091-00005&cm_re=wireless_display_adapters-_-0V5-0091-00005-_-Product

6819.

Solve : IBM Server X3250 Raid configuration error issue.?

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Hi guys,

I need some help here. I work as entry level IT for a company and made a bad mistake yesterday so i'm hoping someone here can help me out with it.

My company recently just purchased a IBM X 3250 Server and using Raid 5 hard disk. One of the 4 hard disk was faulty and my IT manager called in to IBM to get a replacement which I was not really aware of so I was kinda caught by surprised when IBM guy called me to do some verification and check the FRU of the hard disk.

Due to some miscommunication between me and the IBM guy, I accidentally pulled out 1 of the working hard disk which resulted in the whole server going down and not being able to boot up and it is currently giving an error : W: 3058009 Driver health protocol: Missing configuration. Require change settings from F1.

I googled the error message and about the system and went to read up but so far wasn't able to resolve the whole issue and get the server back online. Would like to ask for advise on what can be done beside resetting everything back to default ( because we do not have any backups since it is new server and I do not want the users to lose the past 2 weeks of data). I have contacted IBM and currently they are waiting for approval from their management to send an on site TECHNICIAN but I would like to see if and what else I can do beside waiting.

And yes, I know it is my fault for pulling out the hard disk wrongly and so I'm now trying to minimize the damage done by me and to look for solutions to recover or back up the data inside the hard DISKS if we need to redo the whole configuration of the server and to wipe out all the data..

Any advise will be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

Best Regards
XsaviorSounds like you would need to rebuild the raid array to correct for the broken pairing of the member drives. If you have never done this before, I would advise giving the task to someone else to do who knows what they are doing as for you can make matters worse very quickly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have dealt with having to go through this before such as on our Exchange Server and it was a very tense process being sure to be extremely careful as for one wrong move and your looking at thousands of lost e-mail etc.

Here is the one FACT from this site linked below that is a MUST know for anyone working with RAID5

Quote

Beyond the seemingly obvious facts, there is ONE fundamental law that should be tattooed on the brain of every computer system operator responsible for RAID-5 data storage:



A RAID-5 rebuild procedure will ALWAYS FAIL unless ALL of the sub- system components, i.e. the controller and all hard disk drive members are present and accounted for, this means: verifiably working properly.



  Therefore, if you cannot now access and/or backup all the data stored on your RAID-5, do not attempt to rebuild.  If you can back it up, then get that done first.  Failed rebuild attempts are lamentable and make successful data recovery more difficult and potentially impossible.





http://www.recover-raid.com/failed-RAID-help.html

Hopefully your employer is UNDERSTANDING and your still there as for a mistake like this to some businesses = loss of job depending on the business and how critical of a mistake was made.

My worst mistake I ever made when I got my first IT job back in the 90s was accidentally routing a patch cable looped back on the network creating a network storm. The closet that had a rats nest of cables with all the same color and nothing labeled and some plugged into switch and patch panels just dangling but not removed, I got confused between the cable I was fishing through and a cable end that was in the rats nest of Cat5. I accidentally plugged a different cable that came out of say port 21 on a 24 port switch to say port 12. I then walked away when I saw the status LED light. WITHIN about 10 minutes I was getting calls from everywhere that the network was down. I then went back to where I was working and the status LEDs were blinking rapidly. My biggest problem was that I didn't remember that I plugged into port 12 on the switch and the cable wasn't labeled. I had to start at port 1 and follow the cable through the rats nest and make sure it went where it belonged. And finally when I got to port 12 and followed it and found out that it went to port 21 of the 24 port switch I disconnected the looped back on itself network cable patch. I then had to reboot switches to get the storm to end and this then brought the network up healthy again. Connected my laptop to a port on the switch and did a quick network test and all was well. I then called my boss to report that the problem was solved and he notified the users to get back to work the network was back up. I then had to this time be extremely careful to plug the patch cable that I was initially running into the switch and that it was the correct cable end being fished through the tangled mess of cables that someone before me didn't believe in cable management. I then had to explain to my boss what I did wrong and sorry for bringing down the company network for almost an hour. Fortunately my boss understood and I didn't lose my job after only had been there for like my 34th day of EMPLOYMENT in which the first 90 days is the most critical to proving yourself. I was then given a late night job to correct the wire mess when everyone else was sleeping and route the cables properly and label them with a labeler.
6820.

Solve : I'm wondering if these components are compatible with each other??

Answer» http://gyazo.com/7b02d2cc757fd2cac319629ba0547a06

http://gyazo.com/bcd514be7beed4e3daff155ddb2ac283

http://gyazo.com/9b73e595ca13ac74717d9fc71a553f13Motherboard is AMD AM3+ SOCKET and the CPU is Intel... You need to either switch to a AMD socket AM3 or AM3+ CPU or swap to an Intel board that supports that Core i7. Everything ELSE looks ok.
Also consider why you are getting a single 16gb stick of RAM, you would get better performance by running a pair of 8GB sticks.  I'd recommend USING http://pcpartpicker.com to help you check compatibility.Good point Cameron on the 2 sticks vs 1 to enable Dual CHANNEL Memory as for a single stick would be single channel.
6821.

Solve : Screen resolution keeps changing?

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Like the title said...

Hi, I am using Windows 32bit, onboard graphic, Intel, ASUS as motherboard and VIEWSONIC as monitor. My graphic driver is up to date. However, my screen resolution keeps changing each TIME for no REASON. I use 1366x768 as resolution but it keeps changes often when I am on my computer. Sometimes, I cannot set it to normal, I have to reboot.

Help... ThankWhere is the driver from ? ?ASUS...or maybbe it has been updated AUTOMATICALLY via Windows updates....  Re-visit the ASUS site...and DLoad and install the proper one...
Never use Win Update for drivers.ok will try it. if i re-get the same problem, i will come back here. thank you and happy new YEAR. Also, be sure to change Windows Updates to install only critical updates.

6822.

Solve : One headset - two computers?

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I have one PC and one laptop. I also have one headset. I want to play my games on my PC but hear the sound. I also want to chat and Skype with my laptop. Is it possible to connect the USB to my laptop for sound and the audio jack to my PC for sound also. I want to be able to hear through both and only use the mic in the laptop. I have a Turtle Beach Z22. Recap, USB on laptop, audio jack on PC. Would this work?Here is a method that would work for blending audio. The 10k resistors are needed to avoid blowing amp chip on the SYSTEMS by backdriving the amp.

Other method is to get a professional mixer box FOUND in a music shop that specializes in selling amps, mixers, instruments ETC, that has the proper PROTECTION to avoid backdriving amps and blowing audio chips.

There are also SOFTWARE methods to cast the audio/video from one system to the other, such as casting through twitch from one system to the server and then connecting to that live stream cast with the system your at and have minimized, but audio playing to you at that computer, but the audio cast is single directional and eats up some bandwidth and processing power. A mixer box will not load down your hardware with trying to render and cast audio etc.

6823.

Solve : Which side do i place my computer fans??

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Hey fellas.

My Fractal R5 Case just arrived.
I also bought an extra 140mm fan.

Where do i place it? The case comes with 2 fans, one at the front, one at the top back. Should i move those?
I want my pc to be as cool as possible.

Thanks.



[attachment deleted by admin to conserve space]As long as you have positive and negative pressure airflow you have one fan that sucks in from say the front of the computer cool air and warm air is blown out the rear of it you should be fine. One thing I like to do with gaming setups is add a side PANEL fan that adds to the positive airflow inside the case drawing cool air through the side panel to have 2 fans drawing in cool air and the power supply has a fan and the rear of the case has a fan that are acting as the exhaust of the warm air.

Only drawback to more fans and more airflow is that you will have to clean it more often!!! Mainly just keep an eye on dust bunny build up and remove it from parts when it starts to accumulate. The quality and how fast it builds up depends on the environment that the computer is run in. If very clean it will take longer to get dirty inside at outside at the fans air entry points. But if you have cats, dogs, and FORCED hot air or central air system that is always floating dust around in the home then it will get dirtier quicker.Yes. So keep your room clean.
And maybe buy an air purifier for the room. Really.
Reference:
http://lifehacker.com/5175243/make-your-home-dust-proof
Life hacker takes tips from READER's Digest.

Quote from: DaveLembke on May 19, 2015, 01:39:03 PM

As long as you have positive and negative pressure airflow you have one fan that sucks in from say the front of the computer cool air and warm air is blown out the rear of it you should be fine. One thing I like to do with gaming setups is add a side panel fan that adds to the positive airflow inside the case drawing cool air through the side panel to have 2 fans drawing in cool air and the power supply has a fan and the rear of the case has a fan that are acting as the exhaust of the warm air.

New to pc building. I already have one at the front and one at the back. So you recommend placing my 140mm fan on the side? Also, how does the exhaust system work. Don't both fans blow air into the pc. Or should I flip one of the fans around in order for them to blow in the opposite direction?Why not just try it in different positions and see how it affects the temperatures under load? - It's not an exact science.I would advise installing it in the front - 2 intake fans in the front and one exhaust in the rear is pretty much optimal for most builds.  As camerongray says though, experimentation may help you find exactly what's best. Quote from: camerongray on May 20, 2015, 04:52:52 AM
Why not just try it in different positions and see how it affects the temperatures under load? - It's not an exact science.

Hey Cameron. I decided to GO with 2 intakes in the front and one exhaust at the back.
So i connected my 3 fans to the motherboard. My R5 case comes with a fan controller. There's an extra 3 "2 pinned" cables and one that looks like a molex CABLE. I have no idea what these are for and where to attach them. I've read online that these are used to power the fan controller and that i should attach the 2 pinned cables to the fans. I'm really confused, shed me some light if you know anything about this.

Thank you.
6824.

Solve : PC has been having trouble booting?

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Greetings. About one month ago my pc suddenly started having trouble booting. I'll number the symptoms for easy reference.
1) When I wanted to boot it if I clicked the power on button it would flash the lights for half second and then stop and nothing happens.
2) In order to boot it I had to turn the PSU off for a little and then turn it on and leave it on for about 10 mins before I click the on button and then it started booting (the time that I had to wait after the on/off of the PSU before powering it on increased gradually).
3) About 2 weeks ago, I started noticing that after I turned it on it would start the fans and the lights but there would be nothing on the screen, eventually after about 10 to 30 seconds the bios would start and it would boot normally.
4) Occasionally (became more frequent gradually) 2 seconds after shutting down completely it would power up by itself without anything appearing on the screen (like 3.). Most of the times after about 10 seconds it would stop and shut down for good but some times it would just stay at this state until I turn it off.
5) This might be unrelated but I had blue screen twice during this month and I can't even remember the last time I had one before that. I took a pic of it the second time with my phone (I assume both bsod were the same but I could be wrong) and it says driver_irql_not_less_or_equal.
6) This one might be unrelated too but from time to time since I can remember during boot the logo of the Bios and the BLANK prompt of cmd style with the underscore _ would appear all distorted and MOVING vertical lines would appear but it would stop when windows started booting (no I am not doing drugs, but I can't say the same for my pc).

Even though I don't think it has anything to do with it I should mention that the Hard Drive that the Windows are installed in is a bit messed up (hanging from a thread) but I had it like that for years and I only realized when I opened it (the guys putting it together put wrong cable, anyway).

2 days ago pc turned itself off while I was using it and I couldn't get it to boot like I used to. I replaced the CMOS battery but to no avail it seems. Today I got it to boot after leaving it for hours in each state of on/off PSU wise, but after reconfiguring the bios to default (because of the new CMOS battery) it got stuck at that blank prompt like thing right after BIOS with the flashing underscore(it was blinking normally but nothing else happened) and after restarting from the button same thing happened every time. I reseated some cables and the RAMs and I'll try again tomorrow.

From what I have gathered it's probably the Motherboard. I just need someone with more experience to advice me.

CPU: Intel Core i7-950 Processor (8M Cache, 3.06 GHz, 4.80 GT/s Intel QPI)
Motherboard: Asrock x58 Extreme (s1366/DDR3)
RAM: Corsair XMS3 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
GPU: Sapphire HD 6870 1GB GDDR5
HDD: SEAGATE Barracuda SATA II 750GB 32MB 7200.12No, the most probable  answer is Power SUPPLY.
What is the name of the power supply and its wattage?
All or most of those symptoms come from failing Power Supply.
Also, anything that draws too much power  might do that. Such as a RAM stick that is defective. Or a  DVD/CD drive. Or the graphics card.



PSU: Nexus 1000w rx-1k silent modular

Edited first post and added it there tooPromoted an other information to numbered symptom because I can now reliably reproduce it.

7) When I boot it after leaving it for hours in each state of on/off PSU wise it gets stucked at that blank prompt like thing, right after BIOS, with the flashing underscore (it is blinking normally but nothing else happens).Update

I unplugged everything except fans, motherboard CPU and one RAM and the PC was able to power up normally without having to on/off the PSU. I then plugged the GPU and even though it powered up there was no signal on the screen (probably couldn't get to BIOS). I tested a second GPU and same results, except that once, with the new GPU, the symptom with No1 happened.It turned out to be the PSU (or at least that's what the tech guy in the shop said after doing some tests ). Thanks Geek-9pm for your insight.

6825.

Solve : Hello, first time on a site like this, Need help with information please.?

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I'm looking to upgrade, and or get better performance, with any tips or tricks, from what i can tell, this is what i'm running, please let me know how it is, what whats wrong and or how to upgrade, Thank you!

PROCESSOR Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E4400 2.00GHz
Manufacturer Intel
Speed 2.0 GHz
Number of Cores 2
CPU ID BFEBFBFF000006FD
Family 06
Model 0F
Stepping D
Revision
Video Card AMD Radeon R7 200 series
Manufacturer ATI
Chipset AMD Radeon HD 7700 Series
Dedicated Memory 2.1 GB
Total Memory 4.0 GB
Pixel Shader Version 5.0
Vertex Shader Version 5.0
Hardware T & L Yes
Vendor ID 1002
Device ID 683F
Plug and Play ID VEN_1002&DEV_683F&SUBSYS_72501787&REV_00
Driver Version 13.251.9001.1001
Memory 5.5 GB
Operating System Microsoft Windows 8 (build 9200), 64-bit
Service Pack 0
Size 64 Bit
Edition Basic
Version 6.2.9200
Locale 0409
BIOS Phoenix ROM BIOS PLUS Version 1.10 A09
Version Dell Inc. A09
Manufacturer Dell Inc.
Date 03/11/08
Display Maximum Resolution 1280 x 768
Sound Device 1 High Definition Audio Device
Driver Version 6.3.9600.16384
Sound Device 2 High Definition Audio Device
Driver Version 6.3.9600.16384
DVD
CD
Drive
Size 146.0 GB
Free 93.7 GB

Not sure if that's All the information or if more is needed please let me know, and i use the COMPUTER for gaming.You could upgrade to a better CPU pretty cheaply buying a used more powerful Core 2 Duo CPU for the system. The E4400 is on the sluggish side with low clock and low cache. A CPU like the Core 2 Duo E6600 with 2.4Ghz with 4MB Cache would show noticeable performance advantage.

Are there games you want to play on this system that you can list here so we can determine if its even worth investing any money into a CPU upgrade? Core 2 Duo's while able to play many CURRENT game titles, are being pushed to their limits for the most part with many current games that would ACTUALLY run on it. Titles that require a quadcore minimum if able to install and run on a Core 2 Duo Dual-Core system will likely lag badly.

Video card upgrade could be completed too, but the Core 2 Duo system is going to be a bottleneck for the really good video cards and your power supply would probably have to be replaced with a higher wattage supply to power a good gaming video card, however there are some Radeon and GeForce cards that can run powered direct from PCIE slot and the stock power supply and run games on normal or lower than normal settings, or lower resolution to up the frame rate.So i bought the Core 2 Duo E6600 with 2.4Ghz with 4MB Cache, it should be here tomorrow, consider me stupid but, if i'm using a 2.0, and i upgrade to a 2.6, does 0.6ghz really make a difference? What kind of performance am i looking at? and since its dual core, would it be 0.6 x2? so 1.2ghz faster?? Here's a comparison of the two. These numbers are only a broad data throughput average, not a definitive which is better (although not a bad measure of potential):

=935&cmp[]=912]https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=935&cmp[]=912

[Edit]
Sorry you'll have to click on the compare button for each:

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core2+Duo+E4400+%40+2.00GHz&id=935
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core2+Duo+E6600+%40+2.40GHz&id=912Benchmark numbers with IS over OF % over 100 equation places the upgrade at 27.057% increase in CPU score at 2.4Ghz. Because it looks to be a Dell, you probably dont have the ability to overclock that 2.4Ghz to 3Ghz or faster as I have seen people push the E6600 with strong overclocks with really good performance for this era of CPU if you can keep it cool.

1135     = 72.943444730077120822622107969152
------      -----
1556     100

72.943444730077120822622107969152 - 100 = 27.056555269922879177377892030848% score increase according to benchmarks


with 1135 = the E4400 and 1556 = the E6600 CPUQuestion.
What chip set does the motherboard have?
Is it a Dell Latitude E6410 System?
It could make a difference.

6826.

Solve : Unkown High Temperature Sensor?

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I've just rebuilt my old computer system & refitted it with a faster CPU:

M3A32-MVP DELUXE/WIFI-AP
AMD Phenom 9550 [Cooler] Stock  -->  Phenom II X4 960 [Cooler] Scythe Shuriken Rev.B
Radeon HD 5770
4Gb DDR2 RAM
500W PSU

But I have some thermal problems. Core temps register at least 8°C higher than CPU temps. And more worryingly an unknown temperature that wildly fluctuates between 40°C and 75°C. I ASSUME that this reading is false as it can go from 40-75 and back again in a couple of seconds but I still don't KNOW what it refers to. My worry is that it will cause instability by means of shutdowns because the system thinks that it is melting.

I have to emphasize though that I have no idea if the reading is false or not. It does seem to increase with work load.

Anyone have any ideas on how to identify it? Labeled temp3What are you using to observe the temperatures?SIW & SpeedfanThe reading is false. Temps never vary from 40 to 75 in a short time.
But what is it? And more importantly will it cause "protective" shutdowns? Quote from: Accessless on May 19, 2015, 12:20:08 PM

But what is it? And more importantly will it cause "protective" shutdowns?

Likely Erroneous, and probably not.

The only sensors that will cause any protective shutdown will be visible in your system BIOS, furthermore, the only one ever used for such a feature is the CPU temperature. the temperature sensors are effectively part of the chipset. Speedfan/SIW/HWMonitor try to view the sensor information by basically probing certain I/O Addresses based on what chipset it thinks it sees, But the actual chipset implementations differ between motherboards and sometimes the addresses simply don't correlate with a sensor.



Your fluctuating temperature could be a value unrelated to temperatures at all, or a failed thermosistor, but either way the temperatuer value will play no part in any emergency shutdown. Quote from: Geek-9pm on May 19, 2015, 12:09:36 PM
The reading is false. Temps never vary from 40 to 75 in a short time.

I totally disagree...i've observed AMD's go even more whacko than that in less time... Quote from: patio on May 19, 2015, 02:48:27 PM
I totally disagree...i've observed AMD's go even more whacko than that in less time...
But that was when you used the AMD CPU to fry eggs.. Right?  This is the sensors I have listed [Idle]:

Temp1: 44°C
Temp2: 34°C
Temp3: 43-65°C
HD0: 28°C
CPU: 44°C
MB: 34°C
GPU: 33°C
Core: 50°C

The CPU and Core values also have me worried as their can be a discrepancy of up to 10°C.

I'm pretty unhappy with the whole situation. I'm contemplating buying an i3 with similar performance and less than half the TDP to deal with.

Is the north bridge used fairly CONSISTENTLY or do you get times of peak load? (or south bridge I get them mixed up).I would look up the operating temp ranges for the CPU before doing a wholesale change... Quote from: patio on May 20, 2015, 09:16:06 AM
I would look up the operating temp ranges for the CPU before doing a wholesale change...

http://products.amd.com/en-us/DesktopCPUDetail.aspx?id=617&f1=AMD+Phenom%E2%84%A2+II+X4&f2=965&f3=3400&f4=512&f5=AM3&f6=&f7=&f8=&f9=4000&f10=False&f11=True&f12=True

62°C AMD's usually recommend no more than ~65°C Which is laughable as without some serious water cooling these values under load can be impossible to achieve.

I have a Bequite! air cooler about the size of my head cooling an FX-8350 that just about achieves this (that's with a good case and plenty of fans).

On a side note, Temp3 does seem to immediately correlate with CPU USE which does support the argument that it may not be a thermostat.Ok after watching "temp3" jump +/-50C in 2 seconds as well as seeing it peek at 127C during max CPU load has confirmed to me that it is in fact not a real sensor. Also speed fan seems to be misrepresenting the core temperatures. AMD overdrive represents core temperature as four separate values (one for each core) as opposed to Speedfan's single value, so I assume that Speedfan is averaging the values incorrectly.

I was going to put a meter across the power as well due to the strange readings Speedfan was reporting e.g. -18V on -12V rail. But I think that its safe to ignore that as well. Prime95 tests came back good (once I worked up the nerve to use it :p)


Thanks all.So your saying the temps are within range...or being mis-reported ? ?
I'm confused....Speedfan's report of my core temperatures was wrong, too high (I'm more inclined to believe software made by AMD)

Temp3 was bogus, I think it represents either power usage or CPU load.


In any case the thing survived a Prime95 torture test with no errors and maintained acceptable temperatures.Then yer good to go...
6827.

Solve : Overclocking an i5 2500k with coolermaster hyper 212 plus?

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So recently i INSTALLED the cooler master hyper 212 plus into my gaming pc because i planned on OCing. I FOLLOWED an overclocking guide from http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18338090 and it worked pretty MUCH at 4.5. The only problem is the heat. Running prime95 for a minute got it close to 85c then i turned it off because i thought that was too high. So i started to crank it down and now its at 4.3ghz and about 1 1/2 mins in it goes to 83c and i shut it off. Thats how it currently is atm, idle it stays around 45c. I think this is too hot, is this normal? Thanks Also i forgot to mention, on every game i have tried with low and high settings, i always get around 60c which is high but fine i guess, i just dont want my pc to be too hot this summer.Just undid the overclock and tested prime95 again and now it stays between 72 and 73 c. I think there must be something WRONG or something i did wrong.Sounds as though your cooler isn't doing its job properly if your temperatures are reaching 73C at stock.  I would reseat the cooler to make sure it's making good contact with the CPU and then re-test at stock to check your temperatures are acceptable.  Might also be worth checking what CPU voltage is being applied at stock with CPU-Z, you MAY just have an unusually high stock voltage.

6828.

Solve : 2k monitors: Should I..? Y or y not??

Answer»

Looking to get a new monitor.

I am comfortable spending up to $300 give or take $50.
Im looking for a 27".

It will be used for general desktop/internet browing.  But also for some gaming ( nothing hardcore ).  I might dabble into some home video editing too.

I see there are some monitors on newegg that look reasonably priced. 
If 2k monitors are similarly priced to regular 1980 ( I might be off with my number...?0 ) why wouldnt you want a 2k monitor?

Is there any advantage to having a 2k monitor vs not?
I assume a 2k monitor gives a more clear sharp defined image?


<-- still learning

*** When hooking my GPU to my monitor, what connection will maximize the picture quality?  HDMI?  Display port?  D -...?i7 4790k
MGI gefroce GTX 970 GPU
16gb RAM
750W PSU
Noctua nhd14 heatsink cooler
non overclocked
2k=2560x1440 right?

1920x1080   is not 2k correct?

So is the image quality better with 2k?2560 x 1440 Is actually 1440p.
1920 x 1080 is 1080p.

Yes. A 1440p display has more pixels, so it PRODUCES a much more sharper image quality. It also gives you more workspace when editing. You can preview your video in 1080p without USING up your entire monitor.

I'm not sure if a 2k display is worth getting, but I'm definitely getting a 1440p one. 

Gaming on 1440p requires more Vram. I've HEARD you'd need to turn up some settings down in order to enjoy a good 30 fps+ on a 970.
"2k" is not really an official term for PC monitors.  It is usually used to refer to 2560x1440 monitors because people think it sounds COOL because it is like "4K" which is the latest "trendy" term.  Forget about the "2k" term and just focus on the resolution itself, this will be a lot less ambiguous.

6829.

Solve : No speaker sound.?

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Can anyone help me REGARDING getting my speakers to work, set up my windows MEDIA player but there was no sound coming out of the speakers, searched through the speaker properties etc and eventually got some sound , tried to watch something on YOUTUBE but the sound wasn't right on there so went back into the properties and OBVIOUSLY have clicked something I shouldn't where now I have no sound at all coming out of speakers but if I plug my headphones in they work, its a dell inspiron ,windows 8.  Any help appreciated.

6830.

Solve : Laptop shut off without warning while charging and will not turn back on.?

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In February while using my laptop (ALIENWARE M18x r2) it turned off immediately without any warning while it was plugged in to charge. There wasn't any notice that the laptop was going to turn off or that I should plug in the laptop to avoid losing any unsaved data. It won't turn back on with or without the charger. When the charger is plugged into a SOCKET the charger light comes on but charger light it goes off when I plug the charger into the laptop and the laptop won't charge or turn on. I should also mention that the first time I tried to plug in the laptop with the battery STILL inside there was a spark. I removed the battery, plugged in the charger to the laptop and it sounded like the plug/jack short circuited. I was not using a surge protector at the time. I have no idea why this happened or how to fix it. One recommendation was to REPLACE the spark plug but I'm not convinced that is the problem. Quote

One recommendation was to replace the spark plug but I'm not convinced that is the problem

Hopefully your computer doesn't require a spark plug as seen here: http://www.techeblog.com/index.php/tech-gadget/world-s-first-gasoline-powered-pc

It sounds like the power jack is damaged and requires servicing. If your not familiar with use of a soldering iron and do not want to chance trashing the main board, I would find a business that services laptops and have them quote you on the repair.

Sparks when plugging into the laptop should not occur and its likely that their is damage that requires a professional to troubleshoot to what extent the damage exists and if it can be repaired or require a replacement board. For a laptop like this the cost of materials to repair it could be cheap if just the power jack damaged to upwards of a few hundred dollars if requiring a replacement main board. Quote
One recommendation was to replace the spark plug but I'm not convinced that is the problem.

Not sure why you don't think it's the issue...it is.
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Solve : Thumd drives not working?

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I just bought 2 brand  new 125 gb thumb drives off of ebay so that I could save all the movies off my pc to them.
The thumb drives don't have any kind of manufacturers names on them. They will play the first 7 or 8 movies but any of the movies I save after that will not play. I cant figure out what the problem is I tried formatting them but im having the same problem any help would greatly appreciated thanksCounterfiet drives...it happens.This is a COMMON issue - Sellers buy cheap flash drives of a MUCH lower capacity and then flash them to make them appear larger than they actually are.  I suggest you go straight away to eBay/Paypal to get your money back and then buy a drive from a reputable retailer.

Look at the price you are paying, a flash drive that big will not be cheap, if you are seeing it sold for a very low price compared to the prices in reputable stores then think as to why this is, chances are it's one of these fake drives.

Also, for storing stuff like movies, USB flash drives are an expensive (and not particularly reliable) way of doing this.  You would be much better off getting an external hard drive, these are a lot cheaper and tend to be more reliable than the cheap flash memory used in USB flash drives.  USB flash drives should be treated as a way to move files around easily, not for long term archiving or storing the only copy of anything important.ive had about 4 different external hard drives and every one of some kind of pin keeps breaking that cost 2,000.00 to fix so I just break down and buy another one and spend months redownloading music and movies but I finally got sick of it and decided to go with thumb drives Quote from: weezerwarrior on May 24, 2015, 06:03:59 PM

ive had about 4 different external hard drives and every one of some kind of pin keeps breaking that cost 2,000.00 to fix so I just break down and buy another one and spend months redownloading music and movies but I finally got sick of it and decided to go with thumb drives

What "pin" keeps breaking?  Sounds like you need to take better care of the drives if I'm honest.I cant remember what its called but its a common thing that breaks on them. The first one was my fault my arm got HUNG on the cable and knocked it off the top of the desk, the second one that I had it fell from a bean bag chair literally about 1 FOOT onto a carpeted floor and stopped working so the third one that I bought I decided to get some two sided tape and stick it to the top of my laptop so I wouldn't have to worry about it falling and it held in there for about 8 months and then it just stopped working also so I decided to go with thumb drivesCamerongray is right.
External Hard drives are more reliable than cheap flash drives.
New famous name hard drives go for about $35 for a 250 GB brand name in a plain box. Add about $25 for a nice enclosure and power supply. That makes your cost about 20 cents a gigabyte. More or less.

I just now looked at eBay. WOW, there are some scams out there. A real 128 GB flash drive has to go for about $40 if it is real. Noway can they sell it for $10 or less.

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Solve : Can someone Explain this to me...?

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Greetings.

There is something that i wish to know and considering my job status its a bit odd to ask as well as a bit behind its time.. I used to burn a LOT of music Cds on standard 700MB CDs and was only able to fit around 19-25 songs depending on the titles. I remember years ago when i was little when in europe friends would exchange CDs in their cars and these disks would contain around 100-200 songs! Not only am i trying hard to remember some of the titles, but i want to know what kind of CD has that capability? I remember id be sitting in a Polonez or a Fiat from time to time in my neighbours car when i was 12-14 and swapping disks and going from 1-150ish songs. Good question. All music on CD or DVD  must be some e kind of DIGITAL form. Unlike the old 45 RPM discs teenagers had 50 years ago.
The standard for CD audio has been to limit the amount  to music to about one hour on one CD.  I think the time limit is 70 min.
When the advent of  new  technologies, data compression allows more music to be  put on the same 700 MB CD disc. One of these is called MP3, which can do a 3 to one compression with almost no loss of quality.  Over 6 to one compression is possible. With careful equalization and other effects, the quality is still good.

Here in the USA many retailers  have entered into some kind of conspiracy with the the record s industry and seldom offer CD players that can decode MP3. Maybe it is not the same in Europe.
This is not my idea. It has been documented.
http://gizmodo.com/239512/gizmodos-anti-riaa-manifesto
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In effect, the RIAA's insistence on strict DRM takes value away from legally purchased music. People have a choice: they can either pirate unrestricted MP3 files that will let them use them however they'd like, or they can pay for files that won't allow them the freedom to listen where and how they choose. It only makes sense that many tech-savvy people choose to download MP3s rather than pay for crippled files. The RIAA wants people to pay for restrictions and like it.

But you don't need to buy a new MP3 / CD player for your car. But maybe that is off topic.  Do you want to know what I did?

Geek is right. Before cheap flash memory came along, the only way to carry a lot of mp3 files around, or listen in a car, was to use a CD player with mp3 capability. I still have a portable CD player from around 2002 that I bought in England that plays regular music CDs and also CD-ROMs with mp3 files in folders. Assuming a regular CD-ROM size of 650 MB, and that an average 3 minute song uses around 3 MB, you could fit 200 or more songs on a disk. Most built-in CD players that came with a car could not play mp3 disks but you could buy "after market" units which could. If you had a suitable burner drive in your computer, you could "overburn" some brands of disk and get maybe an extra 50 MB but not all players could play to the end of the disk. My friend had a mp3 capable car player that would not play overburned disks reliably. My portable player used to REALLY eat up the AA cells (4 at a time) so I used to use NiMH rechargeables and carry a spare set.
Quote from: Geek-9pm on May 24, 2015, 12:49:34 PM
Good question. All music on CD or DVD  must be some e kind of digital form. Unlike the old 45 RPM discs teenagers had 50 years ago.
The standard for CD audio has been to limit the amount  to music to about one hour on one CD.  I think the time limit is 70 min.
When the advent of  new  technologies, data compression allows more music to be  put on the same 700 MB CD disc. One of these is called MP3, which can do a 3 to one compression with almost no loss of quality.  Over 6 to one compression is possible. With careful equalization and other effects, the quality is still good.

Here in the USA many retailers  have entered into some kind of conspiracy with the the record s industry and seldom offer CD players that can decode MP3. Maybe it is not the same in Europe.
This is not my idea. It has been documented.
http://gizmodo.com/239512/gizmodos-anti-riaa-manifesto
But you don't need to buy a new MP3 / CD player for your car. But maybe that is off topic.  Do you want to know what I did?

Exactly. I used to (and still have the MACHINE) burn Cds on my Old Pentium 3 IBM, and using Nero Burning Rom 9, it gave me a max or yes, 70Minutes or 650ish MB and i wouldnt get much on the Cds..

Instead of using the program would i just copy Mp3 files from itunes onto an empty Cd in my computer? Cause 700mb of music should be a lot more then an hours worth haha.

And what did you do?
Because my car isnt anything new. Being it a 2007 Pontiac Vibe, i have the standard radio but i use a FM Tuner and have my iphone plugged in. But the other day i put some old Cds in it and found it easier flipping through tracks then finding the next button on a touch screen when im supposed to be focused on the road. I instead i have to wait till i stop at a light to change tracks or ill pull over. Quote from: Salmon Trout on May 24, 2015, 01:48:31 PM
Geek is right. Before cheap flash memory came along, the only way to carry a lot of mp3 files around, or listen in a car, was to use a CD player with mp3 capability. I still have a portable CD player from around 2002 that I bought in England that plays regular music CDs and also CD-ROMs with mp3 files in folders. Assuming a regular CD-ROM size of 650 MB, and that an average 3 minute song uses around 3 MB, you could fit 200 or more songs on a disk. Most built-in CD players that came with a car could not play mp3 disks but you could buy "after market" units which could. If you had a suitable burner drive in your computer, you could "overburn" some brands of disk and get maybe an extra 50 MB but not all players could play to the end of the disk. My friend had a mp3 capable car player that would not play overburned disks reliably. My portable player used to really eat up the AA cells (4 at a time) so I used to use NiMH rechargeables and carry a spare set.

Their Radio's where defiantly 3rd party! I mean i was young but i remember these cars being old Polonez's and Fiats some old Golfs too and their had third party Pioneer Cd Players with Am/FM. Haha the radio was worth more then their car! So how would i go about getting around 100 Tracks of tunes on a 700Mb CD? OK. Best solution. Forget the CD for a moment. Back to that later.
A USB flash drive holds at least 2 GB or more. For some time now anything less that 2GB is not being sold. I mean you get a cheap good flash drive for under $5 from a good on-line source.
What people now  do, if the cannot afford a new car, is buy an MP3to FM converter At Amazon and other places they go for about $20 more or less. I have used these and most work very well. Some have a remote control you can hold in your hand and flip tracks without taking your eyes off the road.
Here is a list of many such gadgets.
MP3 to FM adapters at Amazon
I prefer the one with a remote control and takes a USB flash drive.  Asa you said, flipping tracks from you smart phone is awkward and dangerous.
Now about those MP3 CDs you have. Keep them. Just copy form them direct to the USB flash drive.  With a 2 GB drive you should have enough music for a long road trip. Or get 8 GB and travel for a fortnight.
Does that help? 

BTW: Some of these do both MP3 on USB or else analog audio from a headphone jack. And if you want to use it  in the house, get a 12 wall adapter and clip the leads to the cigarette light plug.
Some models lets you tune to any FM channel.
Quote from: Geek-9pm on May 24, 2015, 10:10:41 PM
OK. Best solution. Forget the CD for a moment. Back to that later.
A USB flash drive holds at least 2 GB or more. For some time now anything less that 2GB is not being sold. I mean you get a cheap good flash drive for under $5 from a good on-line source.
What people now  do, if the cannot afford a new car, is buy an MP3to FM converter At Amazon and other places they go for about $20 more or less. I have used these and most work very well. Some have a remote control you can hold in your hand and flip tracks without taking your eyes off the road.
Here is a list of many such gadgets.
MP3 to FM adapters at Amazon
I prefer the one with a remote control and takes a USB flash drive.  Asa you said, flipping tracks from you smart phone is awkward and dangerous.
Now about those MP3 CDs you have. Keep them. Just copy form them direct to the USB flash drive.  With a 2 GB drive you should have enough music for a long road trip. Or get 8 GB and travel for a fortnight.
Does that help? 

BTW: Some of these do both MP3 on USB or else analog audio from a headphone jack. And if you want to use it  in the house, get a 12 wall adapter and clip the leads to the cigarette light plug.
Some models lets you tune to any FM channel.

I see what you're saying and i do agree, as CD's are a thing of the past hehe. However as i mentioned i do currently use a FM transmitter, but the ones you showed me caught my eye. Cheap as they might be i like the remote idea. However, my only concern is i still want to use my trusty iphone. Now since a device like this:

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/New-Car-Kit-MP3-Player-Wireless-FM-Transmitter-Modulator-Red-LCD-With-Remote-/121415513611?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c44edb60b

has a remote, USB, AUX, and SD im wondering if the remote to change tracks will work with the iphone when it is connected via AUX. i know the USB and SD will work because the device is controlling them, but what about the AUX? thats my main SELLING point. If i can use my iphone for music with the aux but use the remote id be a happy camper. Anyone have any experience. Ive tried looking on youtube btu everyone demonstrates the remote with USB or SD. Quote from: comda on May 24, 2015, 09:53:29 PM
Exactly. I used to (and still have the machine) burn Cds on my Old Pentium 3 IBM, and using Nero Burning Rom 9, it gave me a max or yes, 70Minutes or 650ish MB and i wouldnt get much on the Cds..

if the program doesn't a "MP3 Audio" option, you can just burn MP3 files to the disk. When you burned the disc you were creating an Audio Disc, which burned it in the standard, uncompressed audio format of Audio CDs.With your iPhone there are some concerns with Digital Rights Management. Of course you can transmit the headphone out via a FM transmitter. But the remote only works for the MP3 device inside the adapter of a M3/FM device sold by Amazon in the link I gave earlier.

Which iPhone? Does it have voice command? You can just tell it to go to the next track. Or can you? Never tried that, mine is an phone 4.

Hey! There is an idea for a new App. One that will catalog your music and play songs your request with voice command. You might  say 'Play Dsperado by Linda Ronstadt' and it would. If  you had it.
Dsperado by Linda Ronstadt

Yeah, it is amazing how cheap the SE Asia people can make some stuff. Hard to believe. The technology is moving faster than social changes.

EDIT:  Missed a detail. When you have audio CDs they can be converted to a good MP3 format that plays on MP3 players using tools like WINDOWS Media Player.
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/rip-music-from-cd#rip-music-from-cd=windows-7 Quote from: Geek-9pm on May 25, 2015, 01:57:05 AM
With your iPhone there are some concerns with Digital Rights Management. Of course you can transmit the headphone out via a FM transmitter. But the remote only works for the MP3 device inside the adapter of a M3/FM device sold by Amazon in the link I gave earlier.

Which iPhone? Does it have voice command? You can just tell it to go to the next track. Or can you? Never tried that, mine is an phone 4.

Hey! There is an idea for a new App. One that will catalog your music and play songs your request with voice command. You might  say 'Play Dsperado by Linda Ronstadt' and it would. If  you had it.
Dsperado by Linda Ronstadt

Yeah, it is amazing how cheap the SE Asia people can make some stuff. Hard to believe. The technology is moving faster than social changes.

EDIT:  Missed a detail. When you have audio CDs they can be converted to a good MP3 format that plays on MP3 players using tools like Windows Media Player.
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/rip-music-from-cd#rip-music-from-cd=windows-7

Yeah i didnt think the remote would be able to control the iphone via an AUX. and why would my iphone have an issue with DRM? all my tracks are either from CDs from the past, (i know im 20, but i love ABBA and Elvis so deal with it   ) or music ive purchased from itunes. As i mentioned i do have a Standard hipstreet FM transmitter that only has AUX.

As for my iphone it is a iphone 5, which has Siri and voice Control. I have no data so while im driving i Use Voice control and say, "next track" and it works about 9/10 times. but its annoying.

I will try that app out for sure! I used to own a Jailbroken ipod touch, and i had it set that if i hit the home button 3 times it would proceed to the next track. Made driving easier, as i have a iphone dash holder, and even having it in my pocket. Didnt have to take my eyes off the road. Sadly i had to format it and wasnt able to jailbreak it again and eventually passed it on to my brother.

As for windows media player, yeah thats where all my music from my CDs is from. i ripped it off. I appreciate all the different approaches im being given. Ah, Windows Media Player. I forgot to mention that my old portable CD player would also play WMA files, which were supposed to offer smaller file sizes for the same quality than mp3, so you could get even more songs on one disk. The trouble was, I found I was listening to the same few albums every time, and maybe 80% of whatever I burned I never listened to.
Quote from: BC_Programmer on May 25, 2015, 01:02:05 AM
if the program doesn't a "MP3 Audio" option, you can just burn MP3 files to the disk. When you burned the disc you were creating an Audio Disc, which burned it in the standard, uncompressed audio format of Audio CDs.

The program would ask what im burning:

Audio CD
Data CD
or Copy a CD

So i guess i didnt have that choice. So simply dragging and dropping would allow me what i want correct?An mp3 disk is a data CD, usually with the mp3 files arranged in folders, one folder for each album, and there may be requirements for folder and file naming and/or tagging to make player menus work conveniently. Quote from: comda on May 25, 2015, 03:42:49 PM
The program would ask what im burning:

Audio CD
Data CD
or Copy a CD

So i guess i didnt have that choice. So simply dragging and dropping would allow me what i want correct?

"Burn the MP3 Files to disc" would be a Data CD operation.
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Solve : 20 to 24 pin adapter - Anyone used these to say whether they work??

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I was going to toss out some Pentium 4 class power supplies which are 20 pin type and a friend SUGGESTED I save them and USE them with a cheap 20 to 24 pin adapter which would make the power supply able to work with a modern 24 pin board. Anyone used this type of adapter to say whether it would work or not? I have some better brand P4 power supplies that are like 400 watts etc that I could use if its an ok adaption.

Concern I have with 20 to 24 pin adaption is that, while I haven't checked the pin differences to see what voltages are on the additional 4 PINS in the 24, it appears that they are feeding 4 pins in a Y configuration off of other pins and, if a pin is suppose to have say a dedicated 1 AMP and its now SPLIT between 2 pins, there is additional draw that might weigh down that leg of the power supply.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/291407955450?lpid=82&chn=psThe additional draw is exactly why it adds the extra 4 pins. the 4 pins add a  12v (Yellow) a 5v (Red) a 3.3v(Orange) and an additional Ground pin (Black). The adapters as you've noted simply split those from existing pins.

Of course, whether those pins are separate rails are something I'm not privvy to and probably depends on the PSU itself. Generally more recent power supplies that were made to support the 24-pin connector have increased amperage ratings on the affected rails to account for the increased draw. Older, 20-pin supplies will not have this.

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Solve : Extended Ram failed at Offset 22?

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Greetings!

AS a University Student my PCs arnt the greatest. However my desktop isnt the worst. I have an IBM Thincenter 8810-e96 and its a nice system. I recently loaded it up with 4.5GB DDR2 Ram. a huge boost from the 2gb it had. (2gb + 1gb+1gb+512mb) now when it boots i get the message

Extended Ram Failed at Offset 22

a few MONTHS ago i got the message and reseated the ram and it went away. but *censored* back again and not sure whats wrong as i have had Memtest test the ram and it passed in 2 different machines. Perhaps Its not compatible or something? system boots fine into windows 7 HP

Any ideas?I'd say you will have to remove 1 stick and run it for a while and see if the problem comes back. If the problem comes back, remove a different stick and put the prior removed stick back in. Eventually you should get to a point where the problem is gone. Also just a FYI, you probably already know this, but with mixed memory sizes your only able to get single-channel memory mode if the system supports dual channel. I'd start by removing the 512MB stick and see how it runs on 4GB. And if problem comes back place the 512MB stick back in and remove a 1GB stick and bring it to 3.5GB and see what happens. Another thing to CONSIDER is that you might have a bummed memory slot. I had this before where memtest is fine because the connection is made, but the INTERMITTENT connection breaks for even a fraction of a second and then the system crashes or acts up. I have had to populate 3 of 4 slots before and avoid use of a bummed memory slot such as slots 0, 2, and 3 stuffed with RAM and slot 1 left empty because the prior owner of the system damaged the memory slot by rocking the ram stick out vs using the eject wings  as well as another board that I got for free that was failing memcheck at boot and it looked like someone gouged the board with a screw driver and sliced through 2 traces between the memory slots so that only slots 0 and 1 were good and 2 and 3 were unable to be used, so as long as no memory was stuffed into slots 2 and 3 the system would run completely fine. I ended up scraping the mask off the board around these traces and added a strand of wire soldered to bridge the broken traces and get the other 2 slots back.  Quote from: DaveLembke on May 25, 2015, 09:03:58 AM

I'd say you will have to remove 1 stick and run it for a while and see if the problem comes back. If the problem comes back, remove a different stick and put the prior removed stick back in. Eventually you should get to a point where the problem is gone. Also just a FYI, you probably already know this, but with mixed memory sizes your only able to get single-channel memory mode if the system supports dual channel. I'd start by removing the 512MB stick and see how it runs on 4GB. And if problem comes back place the 512MB stick back in and remove a 1GB stick and bring it to 3.5GB and see what happens. Another thing to consider is that you might have a bummed memory slot. I had this before where memtest is fine because the connection is made, but the intermittent connection breaks for even a fraction of a second and then the system crashes or acts up. I have had to populate 3 of 4 slots before and avoid use of a bummed memory slot such as slots 0, 2, and 3 stuffed with RAM and slot 1 left empty because the prior owner of the system damaged the memory slot by rocking the ram stick out vs using the eject wings  as well as another board that I got for free that was failing memcheck at boot and it looked like someone gouged the board with a screw driver and sliced through 2 traces between the memory slots so that only slots 0 and 1 were good and 2 and 3 were unable to be used, so as long as no memory was stuffed into slots 2 and 3 the system would run completely fine. I ended up scraping the mask off the board around these traces and added a strand of wire soldered to bridge the broken traces and get the other 2 slots back. 

Ah yes the process of elimination. I knew id get this haha. The system runs absolutely fine just get that error on post. But yes i will TRY that. Thanks

As for soldering i saw no damage done to the board. And even though i solder i dont think my hand is that steady hehe
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Solve : New Cartridge Goof?

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I have an HP Laser Jet Pro 400 Color printer-M451dn.  I was replacing the black ink cartridge this morning and walked AWAY for a few minutes.  I was very focused on finishing a project I'm working on so when I returned I immediately printed a paper and completely forgot to finish the process of installing a new cartridge.  The page with a large block of black ink plus the words "cleaning page" and an arrow printed.  My prints are now fuzzy and the ink is slightly GREEN toned.  I tried opening my HP tool box but it isn't opening.  I took the black cartridge out and put it back in HOPING I could pick up where it left off but that didn't work.  I've turned the printer off and back on but nothing changed.  I'm sure it's obvious that I'm a novice...Any help would be appreciated!It may merely be miswording, but a Laser printer doesn't use ink. Presumably, you mean toner. I certainly HOPE so, at least!

What steps for replacement of the toner cartridge  did you complete?

If you somehow did install an actual Ink (rather than toner) cartridge... well I don't even WANT to imagine what may have happened. I just hope that was misworded!Quack search on 'HP Laser Jet Pro 400 Color printer' shows an office style lasewr printer that takes toner. The full set is four toners.
For what its worth, here is a review of that laser:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/251612/hp_laserjet_pro_400_color_m451nw_review_nice_laser_printer_is_duplex_deprived.html
The review was somewhat critical of the quality of the printer.
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Expensive toner and the lack of automatic duplexing make this small-office printer less appealing than it could be.

Since there is a colour fringe it might not be unreasonable to remove and reinstall all the toner cartridges.

I cannot find any details but going back all the way to the Apple Laserwriter I seem to recall that the Toner cartridges are not simply toner cartridges, but also house mechanical components including the transfer drum that transfers the toner to the page.

A full-toner page is when the drum isn't charged fully. Which might not be unexpected if improperly installed. (or for a first run through).

I know my Laserjet 200 Pro has a "calibration" as well as an "initialization" feature which may be involved in preventing issues such as fringing. Perhaps the improper installation issues could be remedied by running a similar process on the Pro 400?

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Solve : Where is My Camera in Asus T300??

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I have an Asus T300 and I have just reactivated it after a long storage. I confess my IGNORANCE but have FORGOTTEN how to where the CAMERA is.  There is no app that I can find and hunting for a manual is not EASY on the Internet. Is there a specific app. available for the T300 that I can download?
HELP appreciated.Sorry, found it .

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Solve : Is my motherboard causing my PC to freeze??

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Hi guys,
I've got an (very) old PC from 2008. After I dropped it somewhere for about 2 years or so, yesterday when  my laptop broke, I remembered that I had this old rig.  So I took it out and tried to boot from a linux live USB and to my surprise it worked like a charm.
 
However after a while I went on Youtube to watch some videos when suddenly it froze, completely. No mouse movement, no keyboard...nothing. First I thought the CPU might have been the culprit but no...then I checked the RAM (from the BIOS) it seems to be FINE too. Then I installed Windows 7 on it. DOWNLOADED SpeedFan and HWMonitor and went on Youtube again, while watching videos I noticed that one of the temperatures was constantly INCREASING, from 38 to over 60 and then the PC froze again at about 62. I believe it is the motherboards temperature since HWMonitor shows it as Motherboard temperature.  Both SpeedFan and HWMonitor show the same temperatures so I guess the sensors are working fine.
 
So my question is could an overheating mobo cause a PC to freeze just like that or am I just guessing wrong? And if yes, is it somehow possible to prevent themobo from overheating or I need to run the fans at 100 just like I am right now?
 
HP Compaq, Intel dual core 3.0. 2 GB RAM. 40GB HDD (internal), 250 GB (external, from broken laptop).
Thanks in advance. Quote

my question is could an overheating mobo cause a PC to freeze just like that
Yes.
Clean out the dust. Check the fans.
From the CH  Help archives.
How to clean a computer system fan
 Thanks for the reply and the link. I'll open the case and see what I can do.

Any thing I should keep in mind, anything I should stay away from? I'm kinda worried I could get electrocuted by a faulty PSU or something! Like I said the rig is old.Pull the plug. Sometimes a PSU will CLICK on if you touch something. S
So pull the plug first.
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Solve : Is the Alienware M18x screen a TN panel or an IPS panel display??

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I'm LOOKING for a laptop with a SIMILAR screen to my old ALIENWARE M18x. I'm looking at the specs for the screen and I'm GETTING descriptions like these:

Full HD WLED LCD

1080p Full HD WLED LCD display

WideFHD (1920x1080) WLED

WLED WideFHD

According to this review
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Alienware-M18x-R2-Notebook.77048.0.html

The display panel is a TN display. I just want to make sure it is. I know TN displays have LESS color accuracy than IPS displays but if my old Alienware M18x had a TN display I'm actually OK with the color inaccuracies (compared to IPS). Thanks.

6839.

Solve : want to downgrade my cpu for better visuals?

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hi im a gamer. I want to downgrade my cpu for better visuals. will a lower cpu make more heat on my gpu? I right now have a amd fx 8350 cpu i want to downgrade to a amd phenom series for better visuals. I have compared the 2 visually. fx series and phenom series. and to me I like the phenom series much better.

I have a amd fx 8350 cpu with a amd r9 270x gpu, and want to downgrade to cpu like a "amd phenom ii x4 or x6. will lower cpu  like "amd phenom ii x4 or x6" put more heat on the gpu, like when playing games. right now most games I play like arma 3 only reaches around 45c degrees

same question with amd Athlon seriesWhy would downgrading your CPU give "better visuals"?
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i want to downgrade to a amd phenom series for better visuals. I have compared the 2 visually. fx series and phenom series. and to me I like the phenom series much better.
the GPU is responsible for your display. The differences you saw had nothing to do with the CPU. If there were differences, it is either because of differences between the Graphics cards in the systems you observed, or as a result of the "lower CPU" requiring more conservative options. But you can set those conservative options on any system if you happen to prefer their appearance.What you are talking about makes no sense, downgrading your CPU will not bring any benefit at all.  What makes you think it would? Quote from: camerongray on May 25, 2015, 05:50:04 AM
What you are talking about makes no sense, downgrading your CPU will not bring any benefit at all.  What makes you think it would?

Quote from: BC_Programmer on May 25, 2015, 01:04:19 AM
the GPU is responsible for your display. The differences you saw had nothing to do with the CPU. If there were differences, it is either because of differences between the Graphics cards in the systems you observed, or as a result of the "lower CPU" requiring more conservative options. But you can set those conservative options on any system if you happen to prefer their appearance.

Quote from: Salmon Trout on May 25, 2015, 12:39:25 AM
Why would downgrading your CPU give "better visuals"?





here is why. compare them carefully. different cpu looks different, on games. its hard to see but look carefully. this is what I mean

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4OSA-vd1h8
That is nothing to do with the CPU, they are totally different systems, you are barking up the wrong tree here.  The CPU has nothing to do with how good the graphics on the screen look.

The only difference between the two of those CPUs in that video is that the game runs smoother on the i5.  This is because it is a more powerful CPU than the AMD FX 8350, not less powerful!Clock Speed doesn't translate to CPU Power. Quote from: camerongray on May 25, 2015, 04:33:58 PM
That is nothing to do with the CPU, they are totally different systems, you are barking up the wrong tree here.  The CPU has nothing to do with how good the graphics on the screen look.

The only difference between the two of those CPUs in that video is that the game runs smoother on the i5.  This is because it is a more powerful CPU than the AMD FX 8350, not less powerful!

you don't see the difference, its very hard to see in the whole video, but on both the visual of each cpu looks a little different.heres another but with a Pentium cpu vs fx 8350

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj7wnRA1yDoThe "COMPARISON" tests are fundamentally flawed in a very basic way, which makes them practically useless for the purpose they claim. They are presented as comparing- in this case, an Intel G3258 to a AMD FX8350.

This has a RATHER fundamental problem. You cannot keep every component the same when you use one or the other processor, because Intel and AMD processors have used different sockets for some time; therefore, the comparisons are not comparing the Intel and AMD chips- they are comparing the Intel and AMD processors along with whatever motherboard they were using. Even if they were the same manufacturer, the CPUs and the socket designs themselves tend to lend to particular designs which have different strengths and weaknesses; point being that presenting it as a "AMD Chip VERSUS a Pentium Chip" isn't actually accurate.

That said, in this case the Pentium would be an upgrade (For this scenario). Again, different software uses the system differently. the FX is an eight-core CPU, so I expect it would likely outperform the Intel system for many multiprocessor optimized tasks or even just usage in a general server system. The Intel get's better performance with games primarily because it uses a newer architecture, but also likely because thread affinity across the 8 cores causes issues on the FX (this can be remedied fairly easily, though it is unclear whether the youtuber did so).

so anyways  will a lower cpu make more heat on my gpu? I want to downgrade my cpu from amd fx series to amd athlon or phenom Quote from: user898 on May 26, 2015, 12:16:59 PM
so anyways  will a lower cpu make more heat on my gpu? I want to downgrade my cpu from amd fx series to amd athlon or phenom

It will not change the temperature of the video card.  It will also make no difference to your game graphics other than make the game RUN slower.  Feel free to ignore our advice and do it but don't come back and moan when you realise that you've wasted your money. Quote from: camerongray on May 26, 2015, 12:19:21 PM
...feel free to ignore our advice and do it but don't come back and moan when you realize that you've wasted your money.
Good advice. He can change visuals in software, not hardware changes needed. Visuals normally means a PLEASING look, but not better speed. But gamers sometimes use that term to mean more than s nice look.
Look here:
How to Improve Gaming Performance Easily
 
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Solve : SSD Issue?

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Hey there, I RECENTLY purchased an SSD that is CAPABLE of 60gb, and I've installed windows 7 only on it (which TAKES 20gb), but apparently it says that my SSD has only 10GB left free in the drive, I calculated everything installed on it, and I must have 30gb more free. This is BS and it pissed me off, does anyone have an idea of what's going on? SSD is from the BRAND ADATA.Go to disk manager under windows 7 which will show all partitions and unused space info and see what the partition sizes are divided up to.

- Right-click my computer from desktop

- Manage

- Disk Management

And you should see the info under Disk 0hmmmm id say u have multiple partitions and its not giving u an accurate reading on whats realy free

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Solve : When choosing a CPU for your build how do you make sure it won't bottleneck your?

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How do you make sure your CPU is powerful enough to support your GPU? What do you LOOK for to make sure the GPU won't be bottlenecked by the CPU? I'm trying to figure out what i7 CPU I'll need if I want 980M SLI in my laptop, instead of just a single 980M. Thanks! Laptop? You are building a laptop?
Th manufacturers are best qualified to match components in a laptop.
Among other thins, they don't want the battery to catch fire! 

A more important question is about your budget.
 Do you want  to pay $2000?
More?
Less?
It matters.

Have you read anything LIKE this?
Intel Core i7-4770K 'Haswell' HD Graphics 4600 GPU[/url00]
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Just like on Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge, Intel has integrated a quad-core CPU, graphics, cache, a memory controller and PCI-Express connectivity into a single silicon die.
You might consider a lesser CPU. 

Why Intel?  Look at this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIT9uLDjZcg
Quote from: Geek-9pm on May 15, 2015, 11:21:37 PM
Laptop? You are building a laptop?
Th manufacturers are best qualified to match components in a laptop.
"The manufacturers" also offer customization options before purchase. From the sounds of it that is what they are using.

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How do you make sure your CPU is powerful enough to support your GPU? What do you look for to make sure the GPU won't be bottlenecked by the CPU? I'm trying to figure out what i7 CPU I'll need if I want 980M SLI in my laptop, instead of just a single 980M. Thanks!
WHETHER your "CPU is powerful enough to support your GPU" depends entirely on the software you intend to run. In fact- they are almost entirely independent, it is simply more prevalent that more recent games that use more graphical capabilities also require more oomph from the processor for the other parts of the game. I'm not building a laptop. I'm looking at configurations from manufacturers. I know that I don't need an i7 or a super fast/powerful CPU for most games but I heard that even an i7 will bottleneck 980M SLI. I just want more opinions about it because I heard that even an i7 will bottleneck 980M SLI, although the benchmarks I've seen still show good performance gains between 980M and 980M SLI.The whole thing about "bottlenecking" stems from the "Gamer" crowd who have no understanding of what the term actually means but heard someone use it once so now totally go overboard about it.  Bottlenecking is only an issue if you were to, for example, try to run a brand new, top of the range GPU with a very old CPU.  Sure, if you are trying to run a 980 on a Core 2 Duo you'll probably have issues, but if you are running a modern CPU with a modern GPU, it will not "bottleneck".

You should however consider whether you (a) actually need the machine to be a laptop and (b) are happy with the disadvantages of having dual GPUs in a laptop (much more heat, low battery life, high power consumption.etc).
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You should however consider whether you (a) actually need the machine to be a laptop and (b) are happy with the disadvantages of having dual GPUs in a laptop (much more heat, low battery life, high power consumption.etc).

I agree with this as for its a lot of money with a limited upgrade path and the only benefit of a laptop vs a desktop for a setup like this would be a space saver, but you would most definitely need to have a outlet near by as for when gaming it will drain out the battery fairly quickly.

If you need a mobile computer which will have an outlet handy everywhere you go, then this is an ok setup, but if your looking to game for more than 30 minutes away from an outlet, adding another video card for SLI is going to greatly drain on the battery.

I bought a low to mid-grade laptop that was able to game because it had an ok GPU in it 5 years ago and if web surfing the battery life was about 1 hr 20 minutes but when gaming battery life was about 40 minutes. So I had to have an outlet handy when using it for gaming. My laptop is mainly for when I travel the ability to game wherever I go, but an outlet is needed and it pumps out lots of heat to where you don't want it on your lap.

I'd go with a gaming desktop if its a computer that doesn't really have to be mobile and your looking to stretch the life of your investment as for a desktop has a long upgrade path with the correct parts, but a laptops upgrade path is very limited and more costly.I need a new computer and unfortunately it must be a laptop. I've been allotted a $3000 budget for my new laptop so I'm trying to figure out what the best configuration would be to get the most that I can out of the specs for the budget. I'll be using it primarily for gaming so I'm considering SLI with a laptop cooler because it'll be plugged in all the time, and because I don't think I'll be getting more than 16GB of RAM or a massive SSD (even though I could). I don't know much about SLI except the increase in performance, heat and energy consumption though. How should I deal with the increased heat? I'm definitely getting a laptop cooling pad if I decide on dual GPUs but is there anything else that I could use to lower heat? I'd also like to try undervolting; is undervolting limited to only the CPU or can a GPU be undervolted or not used completely? If I got dual GPU would I have the option to use only one to lower temperature?

Here's what I'm looking for (this is copied/pasted from my other thread.)
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- Unfortunately due to my current living situation it MUST be a laptop

- Preferably 18" screen with 1920x1080 resolution, or 17" screen

- I know I don't need it for gaming but I'd still prefer an i7

- Minimum of 4GB RAM, preferably 8GB RAM but no more than 16GB

- Weight is not an issue

- SSD not required, but certainly welcome

- Looking to play games on Max/High settings with 60fps with a GTX 980M or GTX 980M SLI

-Must have a optical drive
 
-Must have a built in mic

-Webcam optional

-Battery life is irrelevant because I will be plugged in whenever in use.

$3000 budget

I've done a little bit of research and I know I DON'T want an Alienware, ASUS, Dell, Acer or Lenovo. I've been considering a $3000 configuration of a Sager laptop from xoticpc.com but I'm open to recommendations (hence this thread). If anyone has any recommendations for a $3000 configuration of a gaming laptop that exactly or closely fits these requirements I'd appreciate them."

Also, it's worth noting that I used to have an Alienware M18x. I loved it but I soon found out that Alienware is an overpriced rip-off brand...even though my own personal experience with my M18x was very good. I found out that I could've have gotten better laptops for cheaper even though my M18x was great. The specifications weren't worth the price tag as I found out that Alienware is guilty of. Dell doesn't offer any laptops I want currently and Dell has notoriously AWFUL customer service; the Dell Facebook is literally nothing but complaints about the customer service.

I'm not tremendously interested in Acer's or Lenovo's gaming laptops, especially since I want to maximize the $3000 budget I've been alloted but I'll certainly consider any recommendation. The Acer VN7-791G-792A and the Lenovo Y series are okay but I think I can do better. As I've heard plenty of excellent reviews I may consider the ASUS G751JY-DH71 but I'm not happy about the laptop being difficult to take apart or the battery being impossible to remove. I also don't like the placement of the eject button for the optical drive. Quote
I'd also like to try undervolting; is undervolting limited to only the CPU or can a GPU be undervolted or not used completely? If I got dual GPU would I have the option to use only one to lower temperature?

Undervolting generally takes performance away. Your undervolting and under driving the hardware. If you bought into a laptop that was intended for SLI then it should be designed with adequate cooling. I have only seen CPU's undervolted to be green where the voltage and clock drops to reduce heat and power consumption, and then as a task is run that demands more processing power it steps up the voltage and clock to chug through it and go back to rest. I have never intentionally undervoltaged a CPU, RAM, etc. I always run either stock normal voltages or up the voltage a little bit when overclocking to drive it harder, but with adequate cooling to remove the extra heat that doing such produces.

I wouldn't suggest undervolting anything from the BIOS level if able to do so as for it could destabilize the system not having voltages strong enough to power the components when they demand a heavier load.

My recent desktop build has a stepping of Core voltage and Clock for my AMD FX-8350 4Ghz system. This is part of the AMD Cool'n Quiet settings that I have configured in the BIOS which is a safe configuration. If able to go in and lower voltages from stock to lesser voltages by .1 or .2 volts etc, its just asking for trouble with system stability. Intel CPU's also have a similar feature to slow the clock and step down core voltage etc. In my BIOS I can go in and push my voltages higher, but I have not gone in to do that as well as I haven't checked to see if I could lower the voltage as for I always run stock voltage intended for the components vs trying to drop a tenth of a volt or two which could spell disaster when running the computer with a heavy load and the voltage level not being their to back the power demand. Electronics can act up unpredictably when you get the voltage of the component too close to the minimum voltage to operate known as the drop out voltage when the component drops out of functioning as normal because its starved for power. SLI may not be what  you want.
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Scalable Link Interface (SLI) is a brand name for a multi-GPU technology developed by NVIDIA for linking two or more video cards together to produce a single output. SLI is an algorithm of parallel processing for computer graphics, meant to increase the processing power available for graphics.
So just  NVIDIA can call it SLI, even if somebody else had something near equal.
Here is a bit from Tom;s Hardware:
AMD vs. Nvidia: Which is better for gaming?
So you have to decide how to spend $3000? Wish I had your problem. 
You have eliminated 5 of the major laptop manufturers....sounds like your mind is already MADE up.He could buy a high end laptop from MSI.  But getting the options he would like will be very expensive. Manufactures must set their prices to make a profit from every sale.
Here is a MSI laptop on Newegg.
MSI GT Series GT80 Titan SLI-009 Gaming Laptop Intel Core i7 4980HQ

Maybe he should up the price a bit to get the best. 

$3,699.00I wouldnt buy an "MSI" product.   Way too many problems with them from personal experience as well as others who have taken losses due to DOA and KIA's ( Killed In Action ).  Just so you know Geek...and for future reference...there is no such thing as a "high end" MSI product...Period end. Quote from: patio on May 17, 2015, 02:29:27 PM
Just so you know Geek...and for future reference...there is no such thing as a "high end" MSI product...Period end.
Understood. I will print it out and stick it on the wall.  Quote from: patio on May 17, 2015, 09:39:52 AM
You have eliminated 5 of the major laptop manufturers....sounds like your mind is already made up.

I just want to make sure I can maximize my specs for the budget I've got, which would be very easy if I got a Sager. From what plenty of people have said is that Alienware is a trendy, over-priced rip off brand and that Dell has AWFUL customer service (go to the Facebook page) and is over priced. Dell also does not offer any laptops that appeal to me. I'm also not a huge FAN of the high end Acer or Lenovo gaming laptops. So far I'm interested in Sager, MSI and ASUS. Is there any reason I should or shouldn't consider one of these brands? I've heard nothing but good things about ASUS, mixed opinions about MSI, and a few good things about Sager. Sager is the cheapest brand and would allow me to get the most out of my $3000 budget if I chose the NP8278 or the NP9377, which is why I'm interested in them.
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Solve : Slow drive?

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Greetings!

About 2 years ago i made a purchase of an Acer AM3970-ES11p Tower. Now usually i build my own systems but i couldnt pass up an i7 for $250. Its an i7 2600K, 6GB of RAM, and a 1.5TB green drive on clearance. I later added a Used NVidia Geforce 9600GT 512mb.

Anyways, (great bargain eh) i just did a format reload my way, not acers crappy restore with extra software no one uses. I used a legit windows key formatted the system got the drivers for everything its great! Since my brother is using this system i havnt used it for a year. However im currently doing a virus scan on the 200GB he decided to keep because the machine was badly infected but It seems like that green drive is SLLLLLOOOOOOOOW. I copied 219Gb in 3 hours from it back to it. 3 Hours each. Right now im copying the same exact Data to my system that has a WD black and within a few minutes its copied 45Gb and it says 1 hour remaining.

The computer seems sluggish and since im not used to a green drive and i know their slower is there anything i can do to maybe unlock it so it doesnt spin down to 5400RPM? I was debating if i wanted to actually install windows on an Old 80Gb WD blue, and have that green drive as the secondary slave drive to make windows and general usage faster. Any thoughts? Too much information.
You test a drive with the tools from the maker.
If it is measurably slow, you replace it.
FYI, speeding time with drive our know to be defective is as waster of effort.
That standard speed for desktop hard drives is 7200 RPM.
You can buy a new brand name HDD for about $60 for a 500 GB.
Hard Drive Price.

Old drives can be recycled as doorstops. 
its not a dying drive. Its a Green drive. So it runs low power at 5400RPM and speeds up to 7200 when it needs to. But that causes lag. so i was wondering if i can set in the settings somewhere for it to always be at 7200Might be an option under Power Management or BIOS management to go max performance. I have never owned a variable speed drive like this before. Only green drives I have ever had were the ones that in power management you tell to go to put the drive to sleep after sat 15 minutes of inactivity ETC. And then when you go to use the drive it then has to spin up and then access data. I only used this feature on laptops when running on battery power ALTHOUGH i suppose it might make a desktop systems drive(s) last longer if they were not constantly spinning when idle etc. Quote from: comda on May 27, 2015, 10:48:53 AM

So i was wondering if i can set in the settings somewhere for it to always be at 7200
I doubt it. the spin down and spin up feature are completely under the control of the drive firmware, I expect.
Quote from: comda on May 27, 2015, 10:48:53 AM
its not a dying drive. Its a Green drive. So it runs low power at 5400RPM and speeds up to 7200 when it needs to. But that causes lag. so i was wondering if i can set in the settings somewhere for it to always be at 7200

The Intellipower drives actually don't vary their RPM, they stay the same speed at all times.  It's just marketing from WD.  The Green drives are quite slow compared to faster" mechanical drives but not to that extent, I'd perhaps test the drive for bad sectors using HD TUNE and maybe run a benchmark on it using the same PROGRAM to check how slow it really is as this could be a sign of a fault with the drive.Hi

Green Western digital drives are not normally that slow.
I would run http://www.benchbench.com/
Check for high IOPS readings as this could be a slow motherboard controller.
Are you coping sata to sata, if you coping  sata to USB it could be the USB that's slow not the green drive.
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Solve : RAM frequency is lower than specified?

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I purchased an hp laptop and it shows the RAM as 4 GB SODIMM 1333 MHz.
The RAM specifications as given on the site are 4 GB 1600 MHz DDR3.
The laptop was given for repair at hp service center because the original RAM was defective according to what hp told me.

Is the new RAM same as the PREVIOUS in terms of specifications ?
I am not as good at computer hardware so I'm sorry if you feel the question is very childish.The RAM is likely 1333 able to be 1600 with O.C.

My one friend in Mexico had a similar issue with a Core i7 build that was only running at 1333. Maybe this article will help about the XMP configuration in BIOS to get it to 1600.

HTTP://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2030208/1600-ram-1333-bios.html

more here on HP, not laptop like yours but desktop and the XMP config to get 1600 http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Desktop-Hardware/RAM-Enabling-XMP-Profiles-on-HP-ENVY-Phoenix-800-030qe-CTO/td-p/3822684/page/2

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Solve : Multimedia Audio Controll Problems?

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I have recently moved my hard drive from an HP Pavilion a620n to a HP Pavilion a1330n. This hard drive has WINDOWS XP Home edition installed. No sound works, games that have need sound don't work, I can't work with out sound for my job. I need help. Yes, I have researched this and went to the hp site with no avail. I have tried sp26608 and sp26792. Neither WORKED. When I try updating the DRIVER through windows update it fails.

The picture is the device manger.
the second is the result of the things I have tried.


[attachment deleted by admin to conserve space]You really shouldn't be moving a hard drive with Windows installed between two machines, it can't cope with that and will cause issues like you are experiencing.  You should always install Windows on the machine that you are going to be using it on.If your thinking that i move them back and forth. I am not. But okay. Should i just reinstall windows?I WOULD yeah.  When you install Windows it sets itself up for the hardware it sees during the installation process, it's simply not DESIGNED to cope with moving system.Thank you.

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Solve : Newest Intel generation CPU socket?

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So, Intel latest generation is 5th right?

I have 3 questions:

1/ What socket the newest Intel generation's CPUs will use?
2/Is there a motherboard which supports both socket 775 and the newest Intel CPU socket?
3/ So, it is useless to buy a 4th generation Intel CPU now?

Thank youI assume by "Newest generation" you are referring to Skylake which is their upcoming release and not Haswell Refresh which is their current desktop one.


  • From what I can find online Skylake will use socket 1151, Haswell Refresh currently USES socket 1150
  • No, totally impossible
  • Well, it depends if you want to wait for the new ones to come out or not, the current ones are still perfectly good CHIPS.  If you always wait for the next version of something to come out, you will never buy anything!
You may be referring to the 5th generation Intel.
The short answer to your questions is mostly NO.

Intel is always MAKING new designs and it seems Intel has left the idea of incremental upgrades behind. Each new idea comes with a new socket.

About the 5th generation:
http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/processors/core/5th-gen-core-processor-family.html
The link above is mostly just PR and provides no clue as to have hard nit will be for the motherboard makes to keep up with the new design.


Officially, Intel's 5th generation is Broadwell however this is currently only available on Mobile and I am not aware of any plans to release desktop broadwell chips, so the next generation of Intel desktop chips is going to be Skylake.In regards to this question:

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2/Is there a motherboard which supports both socket 775 and the newest Intel CPU socket?

AMD's are the only platform that I know of that currently design sockets that allow for older and newer such as the AM2+ which would take older AM2, AM2+, or newer AM3 CPU's. The latest AM3+ on AMD's product line can run a new 8-core or an old AM3 CPU. Its one of the reasons why I prefer AMD is because you can stretch the life of a CPU and Motherboard. There are pros and cons to stretching the life of a CPU and motherboard. Cons are mainly a bottleneck of using an old board with a new CPU in which there is a bottleneck such as with the PCI Express being older 1.0 BUS if not new enough to be 2.0, as well as using DDR2 memory with an AM3 CPU and yet you would get better performance if you had a new motherboard with DDR3 memory since the memory controller on the AMD CPU's support  DDR2 and DDR3 on the AM3 CPUs to allow for the newer AM3 to work with an older AM2+ motherboard maxed out with 800Mhz DDR2. Con of using an older CPU with a new motherboard is mainly the fact that the CPU may be weak, so while you might now have USB3 and PCI Express 3.0, the CPU is now the bottleneck to performance. The pros being mainly an upgrade can be PERFORMED at a fraction of the cost by reuse of old parts for a newer build or newer CPU to stretch the life of the old motherboard.

With exception to going back 20+ years ago with Intel's Interposer which allowed some systems running 486's to get upgraded to first gen Pentiums http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium_OverDrive

This is probably the main REASON why Intel dropped extending the life of motherboards. Quote
Intel dropped the brand, as it failed to appeal to corporate buyers, and discouraged new system sales.
DaveLembke,
You made your point well.
Here is a  relevant video
What AMD has over Intel
 Both Intel and AMD both have their advantages.  This topic was someone asking about Intel CPUs, they said nothing about AMD, let's not go totally off topic here...Right.
It was mentioned that AMD has tried to have one socket for different CPUs.
Back to topic.
Say one were to ban Intel motherboard with the i3 of family.
Can one then upgrade to an i5 of that family with the same motherboard?
Or the i7?
Just asking


Assuming they are on the same socket type then yes.  For example, if I bought a new i3 4130 I could then replace it with an i7 4790k if I wanted to since they are from the same generation.  Likewise I could replace an i3 2120 with a newer i7 3770k because, despite the different generations, the sockets are the same (You may need to update the BIOS).  However, I would not be able to take a machine with an i3 2120 and replace it with an i7 4790k because the sockets are different.

Intel generally change their socket every two generations.
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Solve : Power indicator on but notebook won't book?

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I have a SAMUNG NP305V5A that had a broken screen a few months ago and i put it aside because i could not find the right screen. I BOUGHT the display recently and installed it. I put the power adaptor and it indicates power is on but when i tried to power it on the power button just blinks and nothing happens. What could possibly be wrong? thanks in advance.Did it also do this with the BAD display installed or is this a NEW symptom?With bad display it working, just that the display was cracked and the images were not seen well as a RESULT.

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Solve : A problem with an Epson cx7400 all in one?

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I have a problem with my SCANNER.  I have a epson cx7400 flatbed all in one.  I was going to try and scan a document but the scanner would not capture all of the letter sized document.  I uninstalled the printer and downloaded the DRIVER again. I attempted to scan and I got this error message.

Epson scan can not be started. Please use the TROUBLESHOOTING assistant.  I opened it and I got these options which included "try using a different Twain compliant application" what does that mean?

It then asked if my computer met the system requirements and it is the same computer from which I printed and scanned for two years. 

Can you please help meError messages do not always provide correct information.
Does the printer still print?
Can you use the printer DIRECTLY to copy a printed page?
The Epson cx7400 flatbed all in one is said to also copy a page without the computer. "PC- Free Paper Support" Does it still do that?


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Solve : Did I cause any damge to my computer ? PSU and Computer Question?

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Hi everyone, i think I damaged my COMPUTER. My old tower pc did not have a power on/off switch, so whenever I would need reattach the power supply cord I would plug it first into the shut off surge protector outlet, then I would plug the other end into the PSU and I would turn on the surge protector. However, I just got a new tower pc and I connected the power cord to the shut off surge protector outlet and then I connected the other end of the power cable into my computer and I turned on the surge protector (My computer was turned off during this whole process) However, I didn't realize that this power supply UNIT had a on off switch on the back. I think I'm being overly paranoid. But I was reading a couple of articles about power surges, and I'm worried that by turning on my surge protector while having the PSU on off switch set on "on" , the sudden flow of electricity could have damaged my computer. Since, I think the proper procedure should start by having PSU on off on "off" before I one turns the main power source on. Did I damage my computer by having the PSU on/off switch set on "on"when I turned on the surge protector ? ThanksIs your computer a DIY job? It ought to have a power unbutton.

Well, to my knowledge, the power switch itself does not control power surges. Bu that would be an innovative idea for a new invention.
Normally you turn a Desktop computer off or on by a push button on the FRONT. Using the f the electrical plug may cause some small damage  to the hard drive if a write operation was in progress. Windows might do s a write to the Hard drive just before power off. IMO, that is a design flaw.

In any case, that should not be a resewn for the computer to fail all together. Does it still WORK?



Hi Geek-9pm,  thanks for the reply. My computer was off during this entire process . I'm just saying that I had the PSU switch set on "on" when I turned on the power for the surge protector . I was worried that this caused some damage. Do you think it did ?No, that will not cause any problems.  PCs are generally fairly tough, you really don't need to worry about how you plug it in or what is switched on/off when you do.

That switch is merely a way to isolate the PSU from the mains supply without unplugging it, it's not some sort of EXACT science.

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Solve : i have some pc parts questions?

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i recently got my HANDS on a HP Compaq 6000 Pro microtower. anyway, thereisnt much to talk aabout inside right now, but i have an oppurtunity to get my hands on a few parts. im just not sure if they will fit/or work on the BOARD or which would be the best way to go. i plan on using it for GAMING, specifically- WOW, COD. not trying to make aa super awesome pc, just pretty good. that being said, heres the parts im thinking about getting.
not real sure if this will even work on that board.
AMD FX-4130 Quad-Core 32/64 Bit Processor - $50

Core
Zambezi
Processor
FX 4130 Black Edition
Operating Frequency
3.8GHz
Turbo Speed
3.9GHz
Number of Cores
Quad-Core
 not sure about this ram, all i know is that the pc does run ddr3, just not sure if this is compatable .
 Corsair Vengeance 8gb ddr3 ram BRAND NEW! - $60
 and finally theres these 3 video cards. all 3 seem pretty cool, but if im gonna get 1, then i want to be happy with it.
1. ASUS NVidia GeForce GTX 550 Ti GDDR5 1GB - $60
2.  EVGA SuperClocked GeForce GTX 650 2GB GDDR5 PCI Express Video Card - $65
3. Brand: DIAMOND
Model: 6850PE51G

Interface:
PCI Express 2.1 x16

Chipset Manufacturer:
AMD

GPU:
Radeon HD 6850

Core Clock:
775MHz

Stream Processors:
960 Stream Processors


Effective Memory Clock:
1000MHz (4.0Gbps)

Memory Size:
1GB

Memory Interface:
256-Bit

Memory Type:
GDDR5


DirectX 11

OpenGL 4.1

Ports:
1 x HDMI
1 x DisplayPort
2 x DVI (1 Single Link, 1 Dual Link)

RAMDAC:
400 MHz

Max Resolution:
2560 x 1600

if anyone out there can give me a little input on these parts, like if they will even work on the pc and/or if they are simply not worth the money , and which i should go with would be greatly appreciated. thanks guys!!!HP Compaq 6000 Pro.
Huh? Is that a Intel machine?
Dis you  say you want to put a AMD chip in it?
Was this machine made in 2009? When
Intel Core 2 Duo  8600 is given in specs. Right?

I really don't know much about this. But I do not think a CPU upgrade is worthwhile.  Here is way. The machine is old and it was great in its time. Be sanitized with what  you have.
Geek is right. This is an Intel board. So no AMD processor will fit. These 5 to 7 year old ex-office PCs are very cheap, but not worth upgrading.

6850.

Solve : WEBCAM INSTALLATION PROBLEM:ANY IDEA??

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I bought a webcam but when it happens to be installed, I installed its software, then I installed the webcam into the usb port, but it doesn't work, the message was Sorry, You have no video capture hardware. I poped back to the shop, I returned it and I changed it, but the problem is the same, I changed 3 times and 2 makes but still the same problem.

I am fed up I don't know why it doesn't work.I tried to get video capture from other device like digital camera, digital camera did get video capture.Welcome to the forum;

Up to date and latest drivers installed?
Other video programs disabled? (PC NetMeeting, MSN, Yahoo! Messenger)
 Video Capture WDM driver does not work in Windows 98
By chance are you using  Windows ? Did you make sure your system can handle the requirements on the webcam box?
Windows XP

   1. Click Start > control panel
   2. Click Sounds, Speech and Audio Devices
   3. Click Sounds and Audio Devices
   4. Click Hardware
   5. Select your Video Capture Device
   6. Click properties
   7. Under General select Device USAGE > Use This Device (Enable)
   8. Click OK (You may have to restart the computer)

Post what you have for a system and we can go from there first*.

ChickBill ........ There must be some reason your webcam wont function for you ....... Could you please post the brand name and model of the webcam.
Also let us know which operating system you are using .  the type of processor you have installed would be helpful as well.

dl65  My Operating system is Windows XP, The web cam is Mikomi,but before I tried Labtec,but it did not work.My processor is AMD Duron. thank u all for your REPLIES. i 'll try all the recommendations.Also, what motherboard do you have?  Does it have USB 2.0 ports, not USB 1.1?  Do the webcams you've tried require USB 2.0?  ChickBill ........ Thank you for providing the brand name of the webcam........but is there a model number as "Mikomi" have more than one model.
The other thing to check is......... does the webcam you purchased require a USB 1.1 or USB 2 ........ and what are the minimum system requirements......?


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